NYC w/ son and his "future chef" girlfriend
Nov 30th, 2008, 10:26 AM
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A "future chef" should not miss Chef Wylie Dufresne's amazing, inventive cuisine at WD-50.
www.wd-50.com
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Nov 30th, 2008, 10:54 AM
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Sounds like a great weekend you've got planned!
Two places I've wanted to try for after theatre dining are both kind of funky, but fun - one is Yakitori Totto -it's a Japanese bbq meat skewers supposed to be really good - it's open after 11, it's on 251 W. 55th St. bet Broadway and 8th, on the 2nd Floor.
The other is Taboon, a middle eastern place with great breads and dips and meze - but I don't know if they're open too late on Sundays.
There is always the korean bbq and dumpling places along 32nd St (I like Mandoo, or Cho Dang Gol. Or maybe Artisanal for fondue?
You can read more about these places on www.menupages.com or www.nymag.com
Two places I've wanted to try for after theatre dining are both kind of funky, but fun - one is Yakitori Totto -it's a Japanese bbq meat skewers supposed to be really good - it's open after 11, it's on 251 W. 55th St. bet Broadway and 8th, on the 2nd Floor.
The other is Taboon, a middle eastern place with great breads and dips and meze - but I don't know if they're open too late on Sundays.
There is always the korean bbq and dumpling places along 32nd St (I like Mandoo, or Cho Dang Gol. Or maybe Artisanal for fondue?
You can read more about these places on www.menupages.com or www.nymag.com
Nov 30th, 2008, 12:28 PM
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Looks like those recommendations are coming together beautifully. L'Ecole is a wonderfully economic solution to good food. Ippudo is a great choice for Japanese food - their ramen noodle dishes are well priced and the atmosphere is a lot of fun. I also agree on the Korean BBQ idea, especially on a cold night, as a way to change pace. I like Won Jo.
For something really nice, you may also want to consider lunch at Gramercy Tavern (dinner is expensive).
If seeing food markets is high on your list, you can't miss chinatown! It's utterly fascinating.
Bon appetite!
For something really nice, you may also want to consider lunch at Gramercy Tavern (dinner is expensive).
If seeing food markets is high on your list, you can't miss chinatown! It's utterly fascinating.
Bon appetite!
Nov 30th, 2008, 01:51 PM
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You all are amazing! If I wasn't planning to take my son to Peru for 12 days at spring break, we'd go back to NYC so we could try all these places!
Will let you know how it goes and where we end up, and how we like it all.
Will let you know how it goes and where we end up, and how we like it all.
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emd, I don't think Chez Josephine will suit in the food department. DH and I at there after the theater a few weeks ago and the food did not live up to our expectations. It wasn't bad but I wouldn't spend one of your mealtimes there. The place is fun, though, and instead of a dinner I'd go for drinks at the bar. Nothing wrong with those!
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I agree that the food at Chez Josephine is not that exciting but the atmosphere is fun and there's live music. There are not many places within walking distance of the theaters for inventive (and relatively inexpensive) food.
For an after theater snack, either the Modern Bar at MOMA or Gordon Ramsay's London bar at the London Hotel would be fun for them to see and both are trendy and considered very good. Benoit is another idea in midtown not too far. It's not cheap but if you have appetizers and dessert or share a dish or 2 it wouldn't be bad. You could just head to John's pizzeria which is right near the hotel and a NYC classic.
You could also consider heading to another area like Soho or the lower east side for places like Balthazar or Stanton Social.
For an after theater snack, either the Modern Bar at MOMA or Gordon Ramsay's London bar at the London Hotel would be fun for them to see and both are trendy and considered very good. Benoit is another idea in midtown not too far. It's not cheap but if you have appetizers and dessert or share a dish or 2 it wouldn't be bad. You could just head to John's pizzeria which is right near the hotel and a NYC classic.
You could also consider heading to another area like Soho or the lower east side for places like Balthazar or Stanton Social.
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We are leaving tomorrow early a.m. on the train for this trip. Had a rocky time 2 wks ago where son broke up w/girlfriend and I wondered what I'd do w/all the tickets I have bought for her, but within 2 days he realized his mistake and they were back together.
Will report back on the food and plays (Gypsy, In the Heights), tenemant museum's Irish tour and the walking tour of food in that area suggested here, etc.
Will report back on the food and plays (Gypsy, In the Heights), tenemant museum's Irish tour and the walking tour of food in that area suggested here, etc.
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Bring umbrellas and rain gear - looks like it will be mild and rainy this weekend . . would love to hear how it all goes!
Also - small independent stores are really hurting - i've been talking to a lot of shop owners, if ou can try to purchase from local, non-chains, if you can!
Also - small independent stores are really hurting - i've been talking to a lot of shop owners, if ou can try to purchase from local, non-chains, if you can!
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OK, we are back! Had an amazing time and used many of your tips.
1) We stayed at the Westin Times Square in a junior suite. This was a great room for my son, his girlfriend, and me. It was 440 sq ft, and had a king bed w/LOTS of room all the way around it, a wall in front of the bed w/a large flat screen TV, you could walk around either side of that wall into a living area w/queen size sofa and two large lounge chairs, desk and desk chair. On the side of the wall facing the living area was another flat screen TV, so there is one on each side of the wall.
Son slept on sofa bed which was unusually comfortable. Liz and I shared king bed. Room was on 45th floor w/great view of the west river. Foggy 1st two days but then had wonderful views. Bc we had a suite, we had access to the club lounge and free very good breakfast each morning, and free appetizers (substantial enough to make a small meal) from 6-8 pm, w/$5 wine, beer, or cocktails. We hit this up every a.m. and on Sat. and Sun for a mini-pretheater dinner.
2) Weather very cooperative. Foggy and in the 60s on 12/27 and 28, then cooler on the 29th and cold on the 30th - but not like some cold Decembers in Manhattan.
3) Crowds not bad on 12/27 and 28, but started building on the 29th. Although the hotel as in Times Square area, we were out in the other neighborhoods on all days. But it was nice to have the location after the theater, a short walk back to the hotel.
4) Mesa Grill as soon as we got off the train on Sat. for brunch. They had a power outage in the dining rm and we ate by candle light which was nice, as it was foggy and sort of dark outside. It was very busy when we arrived at 11:30, already a line of people w/reservations for brunch. I had the chili rellenos. It was marvelous, unlike any I had ever had before, cornmeal crusted, light, filled w/roasted eggplant and manchego cheese, w/a pretty and sweet red pepper sauce and balsamic vinegar gracing the plate. Liz had the scrambled eggs chilaquilas, son had spicy scrambled eggs. They loved the buttermilk bisquits and I ate way too many of the green chili cornbread muffins. I had 2 bloody marys. What a great start to NYC.
5) After Mesa we walked it off, through Greenwich Village, Soho, Little Italy (got pastries to take back to the rm. and tried to get pepperoni at DiPalo's but the wait looked like an hour (Sat. afternoon). But it smelled good in there anyway. Walked down Broadway- kids liked the Yellow Rat Bastard store (next to Pearl River) and made several purchases there. We stumbled uopn the Leica Museum. Son is a photographer and got a new camera for Christmas and we LOVEd this musem. The curator was very nice and used to live a mile from where we now live in Northern VA. We bought some books of the two photographers on exhibit. GREAT photo exhibits here- esp. the 3D ones. Great surprise find.
6) Went to a "mentalist" show, the Quantum Eye, at 5 pm. I had gotten half price tickets on goldstar.com ($20 each) for this. It was a very fun and amazing hour and a half. This guy is good. There is a You Tube video on his website that will give you an idea. Currently this show is at 50th and Broadway btu it is moving in Feb. 2009
http://www.thequantumeye.com/
7) Saw Gypsy on Sat. night. Great seats, left orchestra 7th row, 3,4,5 seats off the center aisle. Tremendous show. My son said he got goosebumps in Rose's last number (when her lights go out).
8) Sunday I took kids down to Battery Park for 9 am boat to Ellis Island. I went over to Wall St. area and went to the new Sports Museum of America when they opened at 10 am. I understand the reviews have not been so good for this new museum but I really liked it. I like that they have areas for so many sports, not just the big ones like football (great Heissman trophy exhibit w/info on each winner), baseball, basketball- but they have a nice swimming area, race car driving, hockey, figure skating, track and field, an area deciated to women's sports, extreme sports, boxing, golf, horse racing, etc.
I learned a lot about sports I didn't know all that much about. I liked the theater presenation and all the interactive exhibits. I pretty much had the place to myself on Sun. a.m at opening. Also there is a very good shop. I got my husband a very nice felt banner w/all the Red Sox championship years on it, and a vintage looking red sox shirt I have never seen anywhere before.
9) Then met the kids for lunch near the WTT area. We did not go to the visiting area- we were to far away from it when we realized it was way on the other side of the site. There is so much construction going on now, I wondewr how long it is going to take to build the memorial and new skyscrapers.
We went to Century 21 for awhile before it got too crowded. Then walked to Canal St., the kids wanted to go. We walked through Chinatown and saw some strange sights on the seafood st.- my son spent a lot of time photographing a trash can full of frogs for sale and a woman who was picking thru them, holding them up and examining them to get the best ones.
10) We split up around NYU and I found a fantastic nail place, Jay Nails, 100 Broadway, to get a manicure/pedicure and 20 min. back rub. By far the best pedicure I have ever had- she wrapped my feet and legs up in some kind of peppermint and menthol salve and wrapped saran wrap around my legs. They got very warm then very cold. It took all the pain from walking for hrs out of my feet and legs. Back rub was so good, I was almost asleep. I'd go back to this in a NY minute.
11) Kids went to In the Heights Sun. night and I went to Mam Mia. They lvoed theirs; I did not like Mam Mia. Very short on story, esp. after seeing Gypsy. I have never done this but i walked out at intermission and didn't go back. Instead I went over to Charley O's on Broadway for Sun. night happy hr, drinks $5 til midnight. I sat next to a nice young man fro Louisiana, 22 yr old, and his wife. This bright young man is a seargent in the army and is in charge of tactical operations for over 100 other young men. He is leaving for 10 months in Iraq on 1/5. We talked for hrs. and at the end of the evening he gave me his "defend freedom" rubber bracelet, telling me to pray for him and send positive thoughts while he is in Iraq.
12) I got hot fresh knishes and baklava from a bakery(I think on 8th, down by Port Authority) and took them back to the room at midnight. Where else buy NYC can you do that. We all munched.
13) Monday was a great food day. We went to the Lower East side to the Tenement Museum for the Irish Moore tour. My husband is Irish and son had been to Ireland w/him a few yrs ago, so this was great. We tried to go to Gus' for pickles but it was closed. We walked over to Essex St market and got great cheese (very stinky, like roblechon), spicy pepperoni and sausages at Jeffrey's meats (what a hoot Jeffrey was- he waited on us and after 20 min of talking he was asking me to have his child in return for some good meats he didn't have out in the case- where else but NYC does that happen to a 50 something woman), olives, some little spicy peppers that are supposed to be good for cooking in vegetable dishes, breads, etc.
Then on to Economy candy and then Katz for lunch. I had a couple of Patz' brews and we shared a sandwich since we had dinner planned for that night. We stopped in at Russ and Daughters deli for pickles since Gus' was closed. Then walked all the way through the Village and up 2nd to the St. Marks area. There it was, we stumbled upon Chocolate by the Bald man, Max Brenners. I had read about this in escargot's NYC trip report last yr and wanted to go and here we just stumbled upon it. Had hot chocolates and of course bought some mix and beautiful chocolates to bring home. Kids loved St. Marks area and all the cool shops there.
We cabbed it back to hotel, dressed, and made our 8pm dinner at L'Ecole. The server was not so great, kind of tight, but a nice female waitress befreinded us and when I told her it was my son's birthday and Kiz is going to be a chef, she took them on a personal tour of the kitchen to meet some of the students from FCI who do the cooking. We had the 5 course prix fixe dinner ($42). 1st course consumme w/mushroom flan was very good, the monkfish and wild stripe bass 2nd courses were good. But the short ribs and duck 3rd course were way oversalted. The pineapple lemon curd tart, pistacio creme brulee, and pumpkin spongecake w/mild chocolate mousse dessert were very good. Pol Roger Brut champagne was also good.
14) I went to the Blue Note from dinner to see Chris Botte, kids went to Top of the Rock. I hate the attitude at the Blue Note. I was there at 10 pm and got treated like doo doo although I had a reservation. I hate being smushed up at the little tables w/three people on each side in 3 ft of space. I hate how long it takes to get a drink. But the show was good. I keep thinking I won't go back there, but there I was.
15) GREAT NY DAY! I LOVE walking around NYC and just shopping and discovering and eating and meeting people.
16) Monday we had til 4 pm. Kids went to Wolman rink in Central Park. I walked up to the park, then down 5th Ave. to see some of the windows at BGs, Lord and Taylor, Saks. Walked down to Macys and back to the hotel.
17) after I got the kids off at Penn Station I took the Metro Norht up to Hypde Park to see my aunt. Took her to stay overnight on New Yrs Eve at Belvedere Mansion. GREAT place! We had a two bedroom suite in the Stone House, just lvoely w/big fireplace which was great bc it snowed 6 inches. Wonderful dinner in the main mansion which was all decorated. Loved this place, the workers and owner were so nice and accomodating.
18) Getting ready to go eat some of the stinky cheese and pepperoni now w/some champagne. Happy new yrs, and thanks for the help w/the trip!!
1) We stayed at the Westin Times Square in a junior suite. This was a great room for my son, his girlfriend, and me. It was 440 sq ft, and had a king bed w/LOTS of room all the way around it, a wall in front of the bed w/a large flat screen TV, you could walk around either side of that wall into a living area w/queen size sofa and two large lounge chairs, desk and desk chair. On the side of the wall facing the living area was another flat screen TV, so there is one on each side of the wall.
Son slept on sofa bed which was unusually comfortable. Liz and I shared king bed. Room was on 45th floor w/great view of the west river. Foggy 1st two days but then had wonderful views. Bc we had a suite, we had access to the club lounge and free very good breakfast each morning, and free appetizers (substantial enough to make a small meal) from 6-8 pm, w/$5 wine, beer, or cocktails. We hit this up every a.m. and on Sat. and Sun for a mini-pretheater dinner.
2) Weather very cooperative. Foggy and in the 60s on 12/27 and 28, then cooler on the 29th and cold on the 30th - but not like some cold Decembers in Manhattan.
3) Crowds not bad on 12/27 and 28, but started building on the 29th. Although the hotel as in Times Square area, we were out in the other neighborhoods on all days. But it was nice to have the location after the theater, a short walk back to the hotel.
4) Mesa Grill as soon as we got off the train on Sat. for brunch. They had a power outage in the dining rm and we ate by candle light which was nice, as it was foggy and sort of dark outside. It was very busy when we arrived at 11:30, already a line of people w/reservations for brunch. I had the chili rellenos. It was marvelous, unlike any I had ever had before, cornmeal crusted, light, filled w/roasted eggplant and manchego cheese, w/a pretty and sweet red pepper sauce and balsamic vinegar gracing the plate. Liz had the scrambled eggs chilaquilas, son had spicy scrambled eggs. They loved the buttermilk bisquits and I ate way too many of the green chili cornbread muffins. I had 2 bloody marys. What a great start to NYC.
5) After Mesa we walked it off, through Greenwich Village, Soho, Little Italy (got pastries to take back to the rm. and tried to get pepperoni at DiPalo's but the wait looked like an hour (Sat. afternoon). But it smelled good in there anyway. Walked down Broadway- kids liked the Yellow Rat Bastard store (next to Pearl River) and made several purchases there. We stumbled uopn the Leica Museum. Son is a photographer and got a new camera for Christmas and we LOVEd this musem. The curator was very nice and used to live a mile from where we now live in Northern VA. We bought some books of the two photographers on exhibit. GREAT photo exhibits here- esp. the 3D ones. Great surprise find.
6) Went to a "mentalist" show, the Quantum Eye, at 5 pm. I had gotten half price tickets on goldstar.com ($20 each) for this. It was a very fun and amazing hour and a half. This guy is good. There is a You Tube video on his website that will give you an idea. Currently this show is at 50th and Broadway btu it is moving in Feb. 2009
http://www.thequantumeye.com/
7) Saw Gypsy on Sat. night. Great seats, left orchestra 7th row, 3,4,5 seats off the center aisle. Tremendous show. My son said he got goosebumps in Rose's last number (when her lights go out).
8) Sunday I took kids down to Battery Park for 9 am boat to Ellis Island. I went over to Wall St. area and went to the new Sports Museum of America when they opened at 10 am. I understand the reviews have not been so good for this new museum but I really liked it. I like that they have areas for so many sports, not just the big ones like football (great Heissman trophy exhibit w/info on each winner), baseball, basketball- but they have a nice swimming area, race car driving, hockey, figure skating, track and field, an area deciated to women's sports, extreme sports, boxing, golf, horse racing, etc.
I learned a lot about sports I didn't know all that much about. I liked the theater presenation and all the interactive exhibits. I pretty much had the place to myself on Sun. a.m at opening. Also there is a very good shop. I got my husband a very nice felt banner w/all the Red Sox championship years on it, and a vintage looking red sox shirt I have never seen anywhere before.
9) Then met the kids for lunch near the WTT area. We did not go to the visiting area- we were to far away from it when we realized it was way on the other side of the site. There is so much construction going on now, I wondewr how long it is going to take to build the memorial and new skyscrapers.
We went to Century 21 for awhile before it got too crowded. Then walked to Canal St., the kids wanted to go. We walked through Chinatown and saw some strange sights on the seafood st.- my son spent a lot of time photographing a trash can full of frogs for sale and a woman who was picking thru them, holding them up and examining them to get the best ones.
10) We split up around NYU and I found a fantastic nail place, Jay Nails, 100 Broadway, to get a manicure/pedicure and 20 min. back rub. By far the best pedicure I have ever had- she wrapped my feet and legs up in some kind of peppermint and menthol salve and wrapped saran wrap around my legs. They got very warm then very cold. It took all the pain from walking for hrs out of my feet and legs. Back rub was so good, I was almost asleep. I'd go back to this in a NY minute.
11) Kids went to In the Heights Sun. night and I went to Mam Mia. They lvoed theirs; I did not like Mam Mia. Very short on story, esp. after seeing Gypsy. I have never done this but i walked out at intermission and didn't go back. Instead I went over to Charley O's on Broadway for Sun. night happy hr, drinks $5 til midnight. I sat next to a nice young man fro Louisiana, 22 yr old, and his wife. This bright young man is a seargent in the army and is in charge of tactical operations for over 100 other young men. He is leaving for 10 months in Iraq on 1/5. We talked for hrs. and at the end of the evening he gave me his "defend freedom" rubber bracelet, telling me to pray for him and send positive thoughts while he is in Iraq.
12) I got hot fresh knishes and baklava from a bakery(I think on 8th, down by Port Authority) and took them back to the room at midnight. Where else buy NYC can you do that. We all munched.
13) Monday was a great food day. We went to the Lower East side to the Tenement Museum for the Irish Moore tour. My husband is Irish and son had been to Ireland w/him a few yrs ago, so this was great. We tried to go to Gus' for pickles but it was closed. We walked over to Essex St market and got great cheese (very stinky, like roblechon), spicy pepperoni and sausages at Jeffrey's meats (what a hoot Jeffrey was- he waited on us and after 20 min of talking he was asking me to have his child in return for some good meats he didn't have out in the case- where else but NYC does that happen to a 50 something woman), olives, some little spicy peppers that are supposed to be good for cooking in vegetable dishes, breads, etc.
Then on to Economy candy and then Katz for lunch. I had a couple of Patz' brews and we shared a sandwich since we had dinner planned for that night. We stopped in at Russ and Daughters deli for pickles since Gus' was closed. Then walked all the way through the Village and up 2nd to the St. Marks area. There it was, we stumbled upon Chocolate by the Bald man, Max Brenners. I had read about this in escargot's NYC trip report last yr and wanted to go and here we just stumbled upon it. Had hot chocolates and of course bought some mix and beautiful chocolates to bring home. Kids loved St. Marks area and all the cool shops there.
We cabbed it back to hotel, dressed, and made our 8pm dinner at L'Ecole. The server was not so great, kind of tight, but a nice female waitress befreinded us and when I told her it was my son's birthday and Kiz is going to be a chef, she took them on a personal tour of the kitchen to meet some of the students from FCI who do the cooking. We had the 5 course prix fixe dinner ($42). 1st course consumme w/mushroom flan was very good, the monkfish and wild stripe bass 2nd courses were good. But the short ribs and duck 3rd course were way oversalted. The pineapple lemon curd tart, pistacio creme brulee, and pumpkin spongecake w/mild chocolate mousse dessert were very good. Pol Roger Brut champagne was also good.
14) I went to the Blue Note from dinner to see Chris Botte, kids went to Top of the Rock. I hate the attitude at the Blue Note. I was there at 10 pm and got treated like doo doo although I had a reservation. I hate being smushed up at the little tables w/three people on each side in 3 ft of space. I hate how long it takes to get a drink. But the show was good. I keep thinking I won't go back there, but there I was.
15) GREAT NY DAY! I LOVE walking around NYC and just shopping and discovering and eating and meeting people.
16) Monday we had til 4 pm. Kids went to Wolman rink in Central Park. I walked up to the park, then down 5th Ave. to see some of the windows at BGs, Lord and Taylor, Saks. Walked down to Macys and back to the hotel.
17) after I got the kids off at Penn Station I took the Metro Norht up to Hypde Park to see my aunt. Took her to stay overnight on New Yrs Eve at Belvedere Mansion. GREAT place! We had a two bedroom suite in the Stone House, just lvoely w/big fireplace which was great bc it snowed 6 inches. Wonderful dinner in the main mansion which was all decorated. Loved this place, the workers and owner were so nice and accomodating.
18) Getting ready to go eat some of the stinky cheese and pepperoni now w/some champagne. Happy new yrs, and thanks for the help w/the trip!!
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emd what a great trip!!! and a terrific report! I think whenever people ask NYC stuff, we all should just automatically respond with this and neopatrick's threads. I'm really glad it all worked out for you.
So funny you were in Hyde Park - we were there the 10 days before, for a swim meet.
So funny you were in Hyde Park - we were there the 10 days before, for a swim meet.
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Aduchamp, because of you we went to Essex St market, Russ and daughters and some of the other places on the list. I have your list and am keeping it and I think I will get it laminated and take it on EVERY trip I ever go on to NYC from now on! YUM, you know the good stuff.
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Also, mp, thank you for the L'Ecole recommendation. And thank you Seamus for validating that recommendation. L'Ecole is a very good deal for a 5 course dinner, and the private tour of the young students cooking in the kitchen was a highlight for Liz and my son. Here we were in NYC and someone really went out of their way to give them a unique and meaningful experience on my son's 18th birthday.
Also, I think Liz was a little overwhelmed by the amt. of $$ I was spending on this trip and it was good for her that I chose (w/your help) a place w/a moderately priced menu. She is such a sweet girl and she was totally blown away by NYC.
I LOVE NYC. Where else can you walk and walk and never stop shopping, people watching, and eating your way through the city, and throw in some art and so much history. When I die and go to heaven, I hope it is just like NYC. And I hope they serve the same Bloody Mary that mesa grill serves, and have Katz' brew on tap.
Also, I think Liz was a little overwhelmed by the amt. of $$ I was spending on this trip and it was good for her that I chose (w/your help) a place w/a moderately priced menu. She is such a sweet girl and she was totally blown away by NYC.
I LOVE NYC. Where else can you walk and walk and never stop shopping, people watching, and eating your way through the city, and throw in some art and so much history. When I die and go to heaven, I hope it is just like NYC. And I hope they serve the same Bloody Mary that mesa grill serves, and have Katz' brew on tap.
