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Old Jan 5th, 2012, 02:42 PM
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Bowpsrit - no one is disputing the fact that there are rough areas just outside the FQ. Go the wrong way at the wrong time and you can end up in trouble. But, that doesn't mean people have to be paranoid.

Our family just spent 2 nights/days in the FQ, at the Royal Sonesta, which is on Bourbon. We did some touristy things (trying to give my sons a better "feel" for their hometown) and then spend most of our time walking around. We watched the Saints game at a sports bar on Bourbon, and stopped at several other places to listen to music. We had a great time.

BUT - we stayed in well-lit areas, with lots of people and activities around. That is what we do WHERE EVER we travel - whether it's NO, Cairo, Washington DC, Beijing or Cape Town. That's just good street-smarts and has nothing specifically to do with New Orleans.
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Yes. That's what I said.
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Okay- I'm not getting into the safety discussion except for some advice. There ARE shady areas and you do need to be careful, especially if you get really drunk and wander around. Be safe and not clueless and you will be okay. It's the "city that care forgot" so all the houses are old and historic, and many areas look run down but are actually fine. This careworn beauty makes it harder to tell if the area is unsafe than in cities where the house size and type really changes along with income. Ask at your hotel, look at maps, and know where you are heading. I had the same problem when I moved to LA when I was 21. There were flowers everywhere, so even apartment buildings that looked like elderly Taco Bells in marginal areas seemed exotic to my eyes when I was apartment hunting.

Lucky Dogs
As a frequent Nola visitor, and proud hot dog lover, I have eaten many a Lucky Dog. I actually had one on the way home from our rehearsal dinner, so it was the last meal I ate before our jazz brunch wedding the next morning. There is a dirty joke there somewhere, I'm sure. I've never gotten sick from one-they are pretty basic as dogs go but how fun to eat one from a hot dog shaped cart!

Get the number for United Cabs and program it into your phone before you go. Then, if you want to head uptown for music (Maple Leaf, Tipitinas) or restaurants (Bistro Daisy, La Petite Grocery, Dick and Jenny's are all fab) at night you can always dial for a cab to get home safely.

Unless all you want to do is party, I suggest getting uptown and to the Garden District. An easy way to see more of the beauty and less of the "big *ss beer" stands of the quarter is to walk along Royal looking at antique shops.

Or, follow my favorite day plan. Get up and have beignets and cafe au lait at the French Market. Then walk through the quarter to Canal. Jump on a streetcar and ride in old-time comfort up St Charles, looking at the gorgeous homes. Hop off at the end of the line in the Riverbend and have lunch at Camelia Grill or for the beer and fried food lover, go to Cooter Browns for a fried shrimp or oyster po boy (or combine the two for a "peacemaker"). Be sure to get it "dressed" and add Crystal hot sauce. Select one of Abita's local brews. Sit in the cool dark and enjoy.

Then walk (its mid-day and you are near Tulane, being a little drunk here is okay) to Audubon Park a few blocks away. The really ambitious can walk off the food by doing the entire loop around the park. I think it is about 3 miles and it is flat as a pancake, so perfect for ambling at a slow pace. This is the most gorgeous, Spanish-moss dripping, enchanting park anywhere. Stop to see the tiny island in the lake in the middle, covered in snowy egrets roosting in the trees. Wow.

Exit the park on Magazine Street, and stroll down as many blocks as you feet can handle. It is, I think, about 6 miles from here to the quarter. Many cute boutiques, really funky stores (especially as you get into the Lower Garden District and Irish Channel), great bars, and lots of architecture. To me, Magazine Street is one of the true treasures of the city. If you like walking, you can do the entire distance with stops at bars (for hydration purposes only). Magazine gets slightly sketchy when you go under I-10 to get into the Warehouse District. I wouldn't walk there alone, but I feel okay with my husband and dogs. At any point, pause at a bus stop and take a city bus back to the quarter.

After this, I always need a nap and a dip in the hotel pool! Then, out to a fabulous dinner with cocktails first at the Carousel Bar at the Hotel Monteleone, and then some music on Frenchmen Street.

I don't think you can have a bad time, whatever you do, if you just embrace the city and it's vibe!
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LOL!! An alum from my high school owns Lucky Dogs and we have them at every alumni function! Guilty pleasure - love them!

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LOVE Cooter Browns!!!! My brother used to live in an apartment right above there. Great place!

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To add a little "work" - take the loop past Magazine and up to the levee.

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Yeah....hydration! It's important!!
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Now I am Really missing New Orleans...sigh. Maybe there's a another trip in our future this April. We'll see.
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Bowsprit- We just booked our Jazzfest tickets for the end of April tonight. The airfares from DC for direct flights were crazy expensive this year for the weekend, unless we stayed through until Tuesday. Darn. Two extra days in New Orleans to "save" 300 bucks each.

I think you need a trip too- time to stimulate the economy!
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Oh, we do our part to stimulate the economy. You may be right though; we do need a trip!
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We loved Cooter Brown's too - and FWIW, they make an excellent muffaletta!
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Old Jan 6th, 2012, 04:34 AM
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Better than Central Grocery?
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Unfortunately, I could not compare them - every time I was near Central Grocery it was closed!
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Well, hopefully you'll get your chance to compare the two! That would be fun.
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Well, the air fares SW from Chicago Midway were fab. $89 So we are doing NOLA and driving out from there to see the South in 3 other states too. And with a much smaller budget than with any other NOLA trip I've read reports for here.

And I don't anticipate that we will have any problems.

We have had walking issues needing or trying to avoid dicey areas in: D.C., Baltimore, Denver, Detroit, Seattle, S.F., many in Chicago- those especially. But any city, and we did have one extremely dicey situation in Manhatten- lower Manhatten. You do know that many of the ball parks, especially, and zoos too- aren't always in the prime tourist areas at all.

Some of the cities in Europe are just as bad. Less police presence, IMHO- too, for many of them.
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Here is to stimulating the ecomony - cheers!
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We had a blast at JazzFest two years ago. Can't wait to go again -- but can't do it this year. Love New Orleans and would love to return.
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My first American love is New York City, second is a tie between San Francisco and New Orleans. I prefer my vacations to include a city visit even if it's brief.
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Totally unscientific study, but I have found that people who love SF, also tend to love NOLA. I have also found the opposite to be true - people who dislike one tend to dislike the other. I wonder why that is.
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Old Jan 6th, 2012, 02:08 PM
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Both nola and s.f. are laid back places and a little gritty. I think nola and s.f. are a lot like the nyc of the '70's and 80's before disney came in and disinfected times square.
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Red Gravy is the best place in the FQ area for breakfast or lunch. It’s just a block W of Canal. Take Chartres St. to Camp from the FQ. El Gato Negro is a great Mexican place in the French Market for lunch or dinner and breakfast on the weekends. Mena's Palace is a local's favorite that serves NOLA comfort food for breakfast and lunch.. They serve 25/30 different po boys. Johnny's Po Boy's is in the FQ on St. Louis and has outstanding po boys. Felipe's has great Mexican food using local ingredients. Clover Grill is open 24/7 for breakfast and good burgers and it's inexpensive. Rampart Food Store has good po boys. Antoine's has 25 cent martini's at lunch. Commerce Restaurant is a couple of blocks W of Canal in walking distance of FQ and has good inexpensive breakfast and lunch. Buffa's Lounge has good tamales. Daisy Dukes serves good breakfast, lunch and dinner open 24/7. Here's a link to NOLA specials.
http://www.nomenu.com/summer/
Red Gravy @ 125 Camp Street, New Orleans, LA 504 – 561 – 8844.
http://www.redgravycafe.com/
El Gato Negro @ 81 French Market Place, New Orleans, LA 504 - 525 - 9752.
http://elgatonegronola.com/
Mena's Palace @ 200 Chartres St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 525 - 0217.
http://www.menaspalace.com/
Johnny's Po Boys @ 511 Saint Louis St., New Orleans, LA 504 - 524 - 8129.
http://www.johnnyspoboy.com/
Felipe's Taqueria @ 301 N. Peters St., New Orleans, LA 504 - 267 - 4406.
http://www.felipesneworleans.com/index.html
Clover Grill @ 900 Bourbon St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 598 - 1010.
http://www.clovergrill.com/
Rampart Food Store @ 1700 North Rampart Street, New Orleans, LA 504 - 944 - 7777.
Commerce Restaurant @ 300 Camp St., New Orleans, LA 504 - 561 - 9239.
Buffa's Lounge @ 1001 Esplanade Ave., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 949 - 0038.
http://www.buffaslounge.com/
Daisy Duke's @ 121 Chartres Street, New Orleans, LA 504 - 561 - 5171.
http://www.daisydukesrestaurant.com/


Go to Port O Call in the Marigny for good burgers or Praline Connection. Buffa's has reasonable food for breakfast, lunch or dinner. And tamales too. Three Muses has great music, good food and cold drinks.
Port of Call @ 838 Esplanade Ave., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 523 - 0120.
http://www.portofcallneworleans.com/
Praline Connection @ 542 Frenchmen St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 943 - 3934.
http://www.pralineconnection.com/
Buffa's Lounge @ 1001 Esplanade Ave., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 949 - 0038.
http://www.buffaslounge.com/
Three Muses @ 536 Frenchmen Street, New Orleans, LA 504 – 298 – 8746.
http://www.thethreemuses.com/

Spend half a day in By Water. Walking is not bad in NOLA if you can stop and rest every so often. Walk to Lost Love Lounge for a few bloody mary's and then walk to The Joint or JD's for lunch about 1PM or so. Then walk to Markey's and hang out for a few hours. After a few there walk to Bacchanal and have a few drinks outdoors and then dinner at Apple Barrel. You might even feel like going by Vaughn's. Pretty good plan.
Lost Love Lounge @ 2529 Dauphine St., New Orleans, LA 504 - 400 - 6145.
http://lostlovelounge.com/
The Joint @ 801 Poland Ave., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 949 - 3232.
http://www.alwayssmokin.com/
Bacchanal Fine Wine and Spirits @ 600 Poland Ave., New Orelans, LA 504 - 948 - 9111.
http://www.bacchanalwine.com/
Jack Dempsey's @ 738 Poland Avenue, New Orleans, LA 504 - 943 - 9914.
http://www.jackdempseysllc.com/
Markey's Bar @ 640 Louisa Street, New Orleans, LA 504 - 943 - 0785.
Vaughn's Lounge @ 800 Lesseps St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 947 - 5562.
Adolpho's is casual reasonable Creole Italian above the Apple Barrel bar.
Adolpho's @ 611 Frenchmen Street, New Orleans, LA 504 - 948 - 3800.
Apple Barrel Bar @ 609 Frenchmen Street, New Orleans, LA 504 - 949- 9399.
Some of the best dining is in the FQ and the CBD across Canal Street. There's also great restaurants in the Garden District and Uptown. If you are staying in the FQ you will have to take a cab or the streetcar 15 minutes or so Uptown which is not bad. Some people that stay in the FQ prefer to dine there so they can walk. Are you interested in fine dining or casual restaurants. If you prefer to stay in the FQ I like Galatoire's, Muriel's, Bayona, Stella, Irene's, Brennan's, Mr. B's and NOLA. Don't miss lunch at Galatoire's. On Friday there is a party all afternoon so choose your day as you please. Go to The Davenport Lounge at The Ritz Carlton Hotel and listen to Jeremy Davenport's jazz on Friday and Saturday at 9 PM.
Galatoire's @ 209 Bourbon St., New Orleans, LA 504 - 525 - 2021.
http://www.galatoires.com/
Muriel's @ 801 Chartres St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 568 - 1885.
http://www.muriels.com/html/home.html
Bayona @ 430 Dauphine St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 525 - 4455.
http://www.bayona.com/
Stella Restaurant @ 1032 Chartres St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 587 - 0091.
http://www.restaurantstella.com/
Irene's Cuisine @ 539 St. Phillip St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 529 - 8811.
Brennan's Restaurant @ Royal St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 525 - 9711.
http://www.brennansneworleans.com/
Mr. B's Bistro @ 201 Royal St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 523 - 2078.
http://www.mrbsbistro.com/index2.php
Nola Restaurant @ 534 Saint Louis St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 522 - 6652.
http://www.emerils.com/restaurant/2/NOLA-Restaurant/
Have a po boy at Johnny's in the FQ and eat on a bench in Jackson Square. Napoleon House in the FQ is nice for drinks and lunch also. Stanley's is outstanding for breakfast/lunch. Mena's Palace is a local's favorite that serves NOLA comfort food for breakfast and lunch. They serve 25/30 different po boys. Johnny's Po Boy's is in the FQ on St. Louis and has outstanding po boys. Felipe's has great Mexican food using local ingredients. Clover Grill is open 24/7 for breakfast and good burgers and it's inexpensive. Rampart Food Store has good po boys. They are all in the FQ.
Johnny's Po Boys @ 511 Saint Louis St., New Orleans, LA 504 - 524 - 8129.
http://www.johnnyspoboy.com/
Napoleon House Bar & Cafe @ 500 Chartres St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 524 - 9752.
http://www.napoleonhouse.com/
Stanley @ 547 St. Ann St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 593 - 0006.
http://stanleyrestaurant.com/
Mena's Palace @ 200 Chartres St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 525 - 0217.
http://www.menaspalace.com/
Felipe's Taqueria @ 301 N. Peters St., New Orleans, LA 504 - 267 - 4406.
http://www.felipesneworleans.com/index.html
Clover Grill @ 900 Bourbon St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 598 - 1010.
http://www.clovergrill.com/
Rampart Food Store @ 1700 North Rampart Street, New Orleans, LA 504 - 944 - 7777.
There are numerous lunch and dinner special's in NOLA. Mr. B's has a 2 course prix fixe lunch for $20.00. Domenica is a casual John Besh Italian restaurant in the Roosevelot Hotel a block from Canal Street. They have happy hour specials from 3/6 half price pizza and drinks. Dining at the bar at Domenica is fun. Luke is another John Besh restaurant in the Hilton on St. Charles. They have a 2 course express lunch for $15.00 and 3/6 Happy Hour half price drinks and 50 cent oysters. Dining at the bar at Luke is fun also. Antoine's is in the FQ and they have a prix fixe 3 course lunch for $20.00.
Domenica @ 123 Baronne St., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 648 - 6020.
http://www.domenicarestaurant.com/
Luke Restaurant @ 333 St. Charles Ave., New Orleans, LA. 504 - 378 - 2840.
http://www.lukeneworleans.com/
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Old Jan 6th, 2012, 07:06 PM
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"before disney came in and disinfected times square"

Haha. One of my friends complained that the French Quarter was smelly - and my response was "Yeah, but so what?"
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We call that "eau de la ville."

It's an acquired taste!!!!
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