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Old Mar 13th, 2006, 02:57 PM
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Need help planning our first trip to Hawaii Dec. '06

Hello! I'm new to this board as a poster but I have read some of the topics off and on for a couple of years and have always found wonderful information here. Thanks!

We are planning our first trip to Hawaii in Dec. over the Christmas holidays. Yippee!! We would like to be in Kauai from Dec. 23rd - Dec. 30th. Prior to that, approx. 5 days, would be used to travel to Hawaii, sightsee and get acclimated to our surroundings.

For a Dec. stay should we stay on one portion of Kauai versus another portion? Or, for Dec. should we skip Kauai altogether and focus on another of the islands?

We are in the very, very early stages of our planning. Could someone maybe help us plan an itinerary? We will want to swim and hike and sightsee. Plus do a Lot of sitting in a chair and just staring at the beauty of our surroundings! As much as I want to "see it all" we also need to have some nice quite down time.

One question right off the bat is: If we want to fly home on the 30th, would we actually have to fly off of Kauai the day before, the 29th, to catch a plane off of the islands back to the U.S. on the 30th?

Also, we hope to stay in a cottage, something like that, not a hotel chain. And, we would like to be able to stock up on fruits and vegetables from a market to keep on hand in our cottage for meal times. So we would like to be steered towards places that would have fresh food markets around.

Thank you so much for your help.

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? What does ttt mean? Thanks! : )
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Wel ttt means to the top so tcapp was trying to help you get responses by bumping your post to the top of the list.

So about 5 days prior to the 23rd you will be where? Oahu?

Kauai is a great choice. In Dec you could stay in Poipu if you are nervous about getting rained on.
Her's where I wanted to stay whe we went but they were unavailable:
http://www.coastlinecottages.com/

We stayed at Whalers Cove which was a great ocean front condo. Reserved through Suite Paradise. http://www.suite-paradise.com/whaler...lers-cove.html

Pick up a blue travel book called Ultimate Guide to Kauai, Kauai Revealed. Until then you can check out their website at wizrdpub.com. You can see aerial views of resorts and condos for free but for the reviews you have to use the password located in the book.

If you flight is super early in the morning you may have to leave Kauai the day before but there are early morning fights to Oahu from Kauai.
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I like Oahu the best. But, there are just as many people that like Kauai, Big Island or Maui the best.

Here's ome info:

These are some hints/suggestions for things to do and see on Oahu. Many of the websites listed are good for all islands.

Arizona Memorial: (free) get there early, preferably by 8am. Opens at 7:30am. If you get there after 10am the lines can get long and you may spend 1-2 hours in line. Battleship USS Missouri and Submarine USS Bowfin are in the same area. These are about $15 each so you can go or skip them. Look for coupons in brochures for two for one. You can take pictures of them from Arizona Visitors Center and the Arizona tour ferry. Go on the lawn behind the Visitor's Center (Circle of Remembrance) for great pictures. You can also walk around the Bowfin Memorial area for free without taking the tour. Its worth the time. The Swap Meet is only a couple blocks from here at Aloha Stadium.

Polynesian Cultural Center (PCC): www.polynesia.com General Admission about $50 or the luau buffet package ($80). The evening 'Horizons' show is the best Polynesian show in all of Hawaii. It comes with all ticket price options. The higher priced ticket packages get the better seating for 'Horizons'. Also the earlier you get there, the better the seating is for 'Horizons'. The Ali'i Luau Show that is part of the luau package is also a good Polynesian show. IMAX, Canoe Pageant, Samoa and Tonga villages and Canoe ride are the best other attractions (these are included with any type ticket). Plan on this as an all day event. Get there by 1pm (earlier if possible), leave around 9:30pm. When I take visitors, I try to keep on this schedule: IMAX 1:30, Canoe Pageant 2:30, Samoa 3:00, Tonga 4:00, Canoe Ride around 4:30, regular buffet or Ali'i luau buffet 5pm and 'Horizons' at 7:30. The other villages are nice also, but there is not enough time for all of them. You will have time to do some shopping or looking around between the buffet or luau and 'Horizons'. Closed on Sundays. You can go back for free for two days. Check with PCC employees for instructions before leaving the Center if you want the extra days.
Coupon in Entertainment Book to save $36.

Diamond Head Summit: Drive right into the crater and hike to the top. ($5 per carload or $1 each if you walk into the crater). I prefer to drive in. Awesome 360 degree view from the summit. Best time is around 8am or around 4pm. In between it can get hot walking to the top. Takes about 1 - 1 1/2 hours roundtrip.

Punchbowl (National Cemetery of the Pacific): (free) While you are there, drive to the overlook area. Short walk to the summit that overlooks the entire city. If you have time, take the Mt. Tantalus/Round Top drive through a rain forest. Stop at the Puu Ualakaa State Wayside about 2/3 of the way to the top of the mountain. It has an awesome view of the city from Waikiki to Pearl Harbor. Punchbowl is near the bottom of Mt. Tantalus.

Hanauma Bay: Snorkel. Its for any age. You can rent snorkeling equipment there or some places in Waikiki or bring your own. Closed on Tuesdays. Try to get there as early as possible. If you drive, the parking lot gets filled up by 9:00 or 10:00. ($1 for parking, $5 for each person). You can reserve snorkel tours with several companies. They provide equipment, transportation, etc. They seem to have better equipment than the park does. You can also take the city bus. But the first city bus doesn't leave Waikiki until 8:30 am. Website:

http://www.co.honolulu.hi.us/parks/f...ay/welcome.htm

Byodo-In-Temple (Valley of the Temples): $2 each. Just past Kaneohe. Haiku Gardens in Kaneohe is close by.

Chinaman's Hat: (free) Kualoa Regional Park is just past Byodo-In-Temple. Nice for pictures, picnic, swimming. Also nearby is Macadamia Nut Farm Outlet just before Kualoa Regional Park. Kualoa Ranch is across the street.

Swap Meet: You can buy almost any souvenirs here much cheaper than anywhere else. All items are new. Vendors wrap around the stadium twice. Located at Aloha Stadium near Arizona Memorial. Open Wed, Sat, Sun.

Hilo Hattie's: Nice place to shop. Higher prices than swap meet, but not too much more on many items. Has good selection of clothing, candies and souvenirs. Check brochures for coupons. Can take free Hilo Hattie's shuttle from Waikiki.

Ala Moana Beach Park: (free) Nice beach. Great sunset location in the winter. Walk all the way out to the end of Magic Island. Great view of Waikiki, Diamond Head, Ala Wai Boat Harbor (shown in opening scene of Gilligan's Island).

Hike to Manoa Falls: $5 for parking at Treetops. One mile one way. Short hike through a rain forest. Also small bamboo forest there. Treetops restaurant there (at the previous Paradise Park site) has a good Chinese buffet. Lyon Arboretum is nearby. It is a nice botanical garden. You can park there and walk a short distance to Manoa Falls trail.

Hike to Makapuu Point Lighthouse: (free) Great view from here. Easy one mile hike. In winter months (mid-November to mid-April) it's great for whale watching.

Other Hiking on Oahu:

http://www.hawaiitrails.org/ (good for all islands)

http://www.backyardoahu.com/

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/oahuhikingtrails/home.html

http://oahuhiking.com/

North Shore Beaches: Haleiwa, Banzai Pipeline (Ehukai Beach), Waimea Beach, Sunset Beach, Shark's Cove (Pupukea) &Laniakea Beach. Laniakea Beach has sea turtles. Other nice stops for pictures in the area. Can be huge waves in winter. Good snorkeling at Shark's Cove in the summer. Laniakea Beach is located about 1/2 way between Waimea Bay and Haleiwa.

Other beaches: There are close to 100 beaches on Oahu. Besides North Shore and Waikiki beaches these are some of the better ones: Makaha Beach (west shore), Waimanalo Beach, Waimanalo Bay Recreation Area, Lanikai Beach, Sandy Beach, Hanauma Bay and Kailua Beach (east/Windward side), Ala Moana Beach Park (south shore). All public beaches are free except Haunama Bay.

Dole Pineapple Plantation: On H-2 just past Wahiawa. Can visit on the way to or back from the North Shore. Nice gift shop to browse, but expensive. Go behind the center for pineapple exhibits, gardens and carp feeding pond.

Kualoa Ranch: Several movies have been set here: (Jurassic Park, Mighty Joe Young and others), ATV rides, horseback riding, tours. Located across from Kualoa Regional Park.

Waikiki: Beaches, shopping, dining, nightclubs, shows, some museums. Wide range in dining prices. $3-4 breakfasts, $6-10 lunch buffets, $20-$25 fine dining and anywhere in between. Best Waikiki shows: Creation: A Polynesian Journey, John Hirokawa's Magic of Polynesia, Society of Seven, Blue Hawaii (Elvis impersonator), many more to chose from. Many Waikiki shows offer cocktail show along with the dinner show. They seat you after everyone else has eaten. Regular price of shows around $40-$60. Cocktail show about $25-$35. There are several other short free hula shows and other demonstrations in Waikiki daily. Check the brochures for location, days and times. Check brochures &Entertainment Book for coupons for shows/dining/shopping, etc.

Downtown Area: Aloha Tower (take elevator to the top, nice view), Chinatown, Hawaii Maritime Center, Iolani Palace, Bishop Museum, other museums.

Botanical Gardens: Oahu has many botanical gardens. Most are free, the others charge a few bucks. Haiku Garden in Kaneohe is nice and is a nice stop if you are taking an island driving tour. Located near Byodo-In-Temple (Valley of the Temples).

Here is a nice site for gardens in the state:

http://www.hawaii.edu/sciref/botgarden.html (all islands)

Check brochures or get info on-line for others. Search: oahu botanical gardens

Other: Sea Life Park, Honolulu Zoo, Waikiki Aquarium, Children's Discovery Center dinner cruises, whale watching cruise, submarine tours, parasailing, helicopter tours, horseback riding, Hawaiian Waters Adventure Park, scuba, surfing lessons, other luau shows (Germaine's, Paradise Cove). Many other attractions, things to do. Check the brochures.

Brochures: (free) Can be found in the airport baggage claim area or at hundreds of news stands throughout Waikiki, in hotels, in stores, and at some attractions. These are excellent "things to do and see" guide books (maps, attractions, beaches, dining, night clubs, etc.). There are a lot of coupons in these for dining, shopping, etc. The best brochures are: 'This Week on Oahu', 'Oahu Gold', '101 Things Oahu', 'The BEST of Oahu'. Some of these brochures can also be found for other islands (Maui, Kauai, Big Island) unique to that island. Most of these brochures also have on-line versions.

Websites:

www.thisweek.com 'This Week On Oahu' They will send up-to-date brochures for a few bucks. Also This Week Maui, Kauai, Big Island.

www.spotlighthawaii.com 'Oahu Gold' They will send up-to-date brochures for a few bucks. Also Maui Gold, Big Island Gold, Kauai Gold.

www.gohawaii.com This is the official site for Hawaii Visitors and Convention Bureau. They will send a free brochure.

www.101thingstodo.com

www.visit-oahu.com Oahu Visitors Bureau, for free brochure 1-877-525-6248 (toll free)

www.hawaii.com Good site for comparing hotel locations, prices, etc.

www.hawaiiweb.com

www.alternative-hawaii.com

www.portaloha.com/SecretsOfHawaii

www.alohatower.com

www.chinatownhi.com

www.honolulu.hawaii.edu/tours (driving and walking tours)

www.driveguidemagazines.com Good island maps including many detailed maps. Also good restaurant guide. Good for all islands

www.discoveringhawaii.com Free (pdf) circle island tour map. Also free (pdf) download Oahu movie location map.

www.hawaii-hotels.com Compare hotels

www.bookit.com Compare hotels

www.alohafriends.com

www.alohafriendshawaii.com

www.honoluluadvertiser.com one of two main Honolulu newspapers, has dining &entertainment guides, TGIF calendar

www.starbulletin.com one of two main Honolulu newspapers, also has dining &entertainment guides

Automobiles: Oahu is the only island that you can get around by bus. Oahu has a good bus system, but a rental vehicle gets around a lot better. Parking in Waikiki can be a problem at times. If you plan on renting a car, make sure your hotel allows parking at the hotel or in a nearby lot or garage. Get the parking pass at the hotel registration area. Probably $8-$14/day to park at the hotel. You can get city bus passes at any ABC store in Waikiki for $20 for 4 days ($40/month). Or you can pay $2.00 per trip. There are also many shuttles, tour buses and vans and trolleys that go to many places (some are free). Also 1 or 4 day Waikiki Trolley passes available.

www.thebus.org

www.waikikitrolley.com

Internet Search Engines: Use Yahoo, Google, Dogpile or any other search engine to find information on any thing else on Oahu (or other island) that may interest you. Type in: hiking hawaii, hiking oahu, bed and breakfast oahu, condominiums oahu, botanical gardens oahu, oahu hotels or any other terms that will get you information.

Hotels: Most hotels (or hotel chains) have their own 800 numbers and/or websites:

www.outrigger.com

www.sheraton.com

www.ohanahotels.com

, etc. Or you can use a search engine to find the website or use the search engine's yellow pages for the phone number.
also try www.vrbo.com for more options

Entertainment Book
Entertainment books for Hawaii and many other locations can be purchased online at:

www.entertainment.com.

They cost around $35-$40 plus shipping or if you wait until mid-March, the price is reduced to about $25 (or less) with free shipping, $15 after mid-May. Expires November 1.

Coupons include half price tickets for John Hirokawa's Magic Show. Hundreds of other coupons for reduce price luaus, shopping, dining, movies, attractions, etc. The Hawaii book also has many mainland coupons for hotels, car rentals, Universal Studios, Sea World, etc.

www.kauaidiscovery.com They will send a free brochure

www.kauai-hawaii.com

www.mauihawaii.org

www.visitmaui.com They will send a free brochure

www.bigisland.org They will send a free brochure
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Suzie - Thnx for explaining ttt.
tcapp - Thnx for ttting me!

Suzie - Would it be best to fly R/T in and out of Oahu and then island hop over to Kauai from there? Thnx for the links, what awesome places.

dusty - Thank you so much for all of the information and links. I copied it to Word and will start reading it tomorrow when I get home from work. You are so nice to have given me so many choices. I really appreciate it.

Thnx!
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Coden,

Kaua'i uh?

You sure about that?

Here are several sites for finding that cottage you are looking for.

http://www.kauairentals.com/

http://www.grantham-resorts.com/

http://www.kauaivacationrentals.com/index.htm

http://www.gillinbeachhouse.com/index.html

http://www.napaliprop.com/vr1.htm

http://www.balihai.com/

The farmers market on Kaua'i are spectacular places to find delicious fruit and veggies and great deals on freshly picked flowers (bunchs of orchid stems for $5). Here is the site that lists most of them. Get there early to get the best pickins.

http://www.kauai.gov/Default.aspx?tabid=214

Another book to consider buying is Lenore Horowitz's Kauai Underground or Underground Kaua'i. One of those. Great book.

Come back from time to time and let us know how the planning is going.

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jamq - Thank for the info. I've just added it to my growing list. What wonderful reads I've been having and the pictures are all wonderful.

My son picked Kauai. He was there last year as a geology student and when asked which of the islands he would like to return to, the answer was Kauai.

Do you think for the Dec. timeframe that we should visit another island instead?

Thnx!
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Just FYI, you will not be flying "back to the U.S." Hawaii is a U.S. state and locals don't appreciate it when tourists refer the Mainland as "the States."

If you stay on Oahu, a great place to get fresh foods is the farmers market at Kapiolani Community College on Saturday morning.
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Most airlines have you leaving the islands in the evening, so that you arrive home the afternoon of the next day. That wears me out! So this time, I'm taking Hawaiian airlines to the west coast and spending the night. Then resuming my travels home the next day via Delta... More costly, yes, but I'm using FF miles for the Delta portion and found a pretty good deal for the Hawaiian Airlines portion.
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Whichever island you choose, I would recommend a hotel on the southern side of the island for a winter visit. The waves and shore currents can be huge on the northern sides that time of year. That can make for impressive views but very dangerous swimming. Kauai in particular has vicious currents along its north shore in the winter.
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Coden, you say "We would like to be in Kauai from Dec. 23rd - Dec. 30th. Prior to that, approx. 5 days, would be used to travel to Hawaii, sightsee and get acclimated to our surroundings."

I still don't quite understand .... where will you be those first five days? Were you thinking of spending a few days on Oahu first? I would stay in the Poipu Beach area on Kauai, where the weather should be great. As the poster above noted, just don't stay on the North shore of the island that time of year.

You do realize that you will be going at the busiest, most expensive time of year and you should get your reservations made as soon as possible??? My son's family tried to plan a trip to Hawaii late last summer for this past holiday season, and couldn't find a place they really wanted to stay that wasn't booked already! They had to give up ...

Good luck with your planning!

 
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Thanks again everyone for all of your help!

Bonniebroad - Yes, we thought we'd go to Oahu first and sightsee. But now that I have so much information and realize that there is a lot to do in Kauai, I think we may just do 10 days in Kauai. That way we'll have plenty of rest time in-between jaunts.

Thanks for the headsup on getting our reservations made. I wondered how early we should do that. We've found a couple places we like, so maybe we'll just make the decision and get that part done.

Thnx again, Coden
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We too are flying from Maui to San Fran and spending two days there avoid the RED EYE flight AND to readjust to the time change a bit before heading ALL THE WAY back to Boston. We can't wait to go...September 1st!
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Coden,

You mentioned that you are in the very, very early stages of planning. The holidays is a high season in the islands. You should make your hotel/condo reservations right away. Good accommodations are going to get harder to get as time goes by. If I were going in December I would make my reservations in the next 30 days.

Rule of thumb: Winter=south shore, Summer=north shore.

We are going at the end of May and plan on do the whole 14 days in Kauai.

Sometimes planning is as much fun as the trip.
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Coden,
Hurray for you!! Hawaii is a truly awesome place and you're going to have a great time. We've been about a dozen times to almost all of the islands (both hotels and condos) and still keep going back! (Just spent 2 weeks in Maui last month.) That should tell you something....

First, what I will say is that if you haven't already nailed down your flights and accomodations, you'd better hurry. Christmastime books quite early and gets more expensive the longer you wait. I would venture to say that many places are already sold out. Also, depending upon what airline you fly, you might be able to fly directly out of Kauai and not have to go through Honolulu on your way home. I know some people suggest stopping over for 1 night on the west coast to avoid the long, arduous flight, but, having done that before, it's not something I recommend. Of course everyone is different, but in my humble opinion, stopping over just prolongs the misery. You're still screwed up timewise (2 hours time difference there) and don't sleep properly anyway. I like to get home a day earlier and have that time, at home, to readjust. But again, that's just me with my east coast perspective! (11 hours of travel!)

In terms of planning your itinerary, it would help if we knew who was traveling, ages, and interests. But for now,

THE ISLANDS -
As I'm sure you've learned, Kauai is beautiful and certainly more laid back than the other "main" islands. If you're looking for the "quieter" and more pristine Hawaii, Kauai is a good choice. There are many unspoiled beaches and quiet coves and delightful scenery to take in. It truly has a mellow tropical vibe.

In terms of the weather, Kauai is known as the lush, wet island, but it really isn't "all" that different from any of the others in the Hawaiian island chain. What determines the weather more is 'when' you go and 'where' on any of the islands you stay. In the winter, the weather is nice and comfortable and not at all humid like the summer months can be. The northern parts are wetter and have rougher surf, often too rough to swim in. The southern parts are sunnier and have a more manageable surf for swimming.

With that said, if it were MY first trip, I would travel to Oahu for the first few days you mentioned. So many people are "Oahu snobs" and will tell you it's not worth seeing. I totally disagree. Sure, it's not the tropical, kick-back-at-a serene beach location a lot feel Hawaii should be, but it's definitely an important part of Hawaii. I personally feel that the multiculturalism on the island of Oahu is unrivaled. So many different cultures and experiences... The Pearl Harbor memorial museum is a moving historical tribute that I wouldn't miss. The north shore beaches (think surf competitions) are awesome and miles away (both literally and figuratively) from the tourist haven of Waikiki. Plus, if you're interested, there are lots and lots of shopping opportunities there.

Don't overlook Maui either. From what you mention you're looking to do, Maui could be your best choice. You wouldn't lose time by island hopping and could focus on 1 island. Great beaches, great hikes, and more. To me, Maui is like a blend of Oahu and Kauai. If you're looking to keep busy, there's plenty to do (great whale watching in the winter, terrific snorkeling, great hike routes)and if you're looking to chill, that's easily done too.

And by the way, wherever you decide, don't worry about finding your fresh foods. They're abundant throughout the islands. That's one of the great things about Hawaii

Aloha......
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Nannymer - Can't wait to hear how your trip turned out. Sept will be here before you know it!!

jamaltay - I love the planning of the trip, it is so much fun!

Okay all - We are looking at a place in Kekaha, which is over by Waimea. Hopefully we'll have that nailed down in a few days.

We now are kicking around the idea of staying for 2 full weeks. And all on Kauai. We've already spent the time and money to fly over there, we are all from work and school, so why not? This will give us a lot of time to do some serious hiking and exploring and then to have some serious downtime watching the waves and whales!

Bakergirl - Thnx for the great info. This is all so exciting to us, especially since it was basically a spur of the moment decision to go. We've talked about going to Hawaii many times but never really got past anything other than just talking about it. And here we are, getting ready to book a place to stay.

I think though that we'll have to do Oahu and Maui on another trip. I think now we have it in our heads to have a nice long relaxing stay on Kauai.

Thanks again and I'll keep you all posted.
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Update - We have decided to do two full weeks and I've just sent off a request to rent a place in Kekaha. Now it is on to getting our airfare and rental car booked.

Thanks again for all of your help!!
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This Kekaha?

http://www.aloha.net/~inazoo/index.htm.htm

It looks like at least one of the residents has a great sense of humor. I especially like the scrolling message at the top "Welcome to Kekaha, and watch paint dry." Combine that with beautiful white sand beaches and shave ice and you have the makings for a very relaxing vacation.
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bobludlow - All I got on the link was a Hawaiian On-Line service. : )
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