This thread started a month ago as a water warning, then morphed into a memorial thread about a surfer; it seems that people can post what they want, if not too far off topics within the thread; if a separate thread is called for in order to be a memorial, one could certainly be started.
No need to order people about.

I think a thread on surfing publications is probably more appropriate, or better yet, why not an open thread where tom can spin all the yarns he wants to without it getting in the way of the original thread. We could call it "Tom's Place".

unless you want to discuss ocean safety wekewoody you need to start a new thread. sorry that's the "rule".

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Or he can start a Tom's Place Facebook page where he can be the admin and not be bothered? :-?

Now, I'd like to hear how the practice of martial arts leads to your reactions decreasing once you hit 65.

Maybe you meant marital arts?

First of all - good for the surfing legend Rick - if he went out on his own terms, and very nice tributes by Kauaistyle and Andy.

nana: You might ask your brother if he knew fellow San Diegan Butch Van Artsdalen - whose story you can read here.

Butch was part of the legendary Windansee Beach Club - whom noted authors Ken Kesey and Tom Wolfe wrote about in The Electric Kool Acid Test - and the Pump House Gang. http://www.windansea.org/chuck_hasley_memorial.html and http://files.legendarysurfers.com/su...ds/lsc214.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pump_House_Gang

Actually - for the founder/"Coach" of the Windansea surfing club - Chuck Hasley - they held a memorial at La Jolla's Boomers Beach - where I have body surfed some good sized waves. Almost as big as the ones I once did down by Poipu, before Iniki rearranged where it broke by Brenneke's Beach.

While I never met Butch - I do know some people here who knew him - and my friend - the surfing Doc on the North Shore of Oahu - knew him - as he did many of the old time surfers, as well as the continuing line of great surfers from the North Shore.

And Kal: Like your play on the the various spellings of "Martial" - and if I wasn't sufficiently clear - what I meant was when I was actively practicing Martial Arts - I could still give the young guys a go when sparring - but there definitely was a slowdown in speed and reflexes as I moved through my Forties, and it only continues after that.

As for Marital relations - hey - that follows a similar path.

He knew of Butch but my brother is about 12 years younger so no they wouldn't have known each other personally.

Ye of Hastings were sufficiently clear. I'm just a State College dullard who would have a problem punching my way out of a wet paper bag.

Kal: State College--as in Penn State Nittany Lions???

If so, we went to the same school! Uh, oh ... better start a new thread: Penn Staters who majored in Kauai. ;-).

Came close to the State pen but no, not PSU.

If I would have stayed back in The Pitt I probably would have gone to Pitt or CMU...I would have gone to Duquesne but didn't know how to spell it.

...now...back to our regularly scheduled thread.....

So Kal. Was it Slippery Rock you attended?

No but I'm on a slippery slope now.
I was educated in the local State of Confusion College system.

...now...back to our regularly scheduled thread...

you're already going down a slippery slope when you changed the subject Kal

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i did not make Rick's paddle out "Lookin Glas" however titus and papa sau filled me in on the loving particulars. sick daughter takes precedence
Its been raining hard in the mts and from radio chatter, looks as though someone was swept out to sea trying to cross Hanakapi'ai stream last evening...a bunch of folks having to sleep where they are in the mud and rain. to be continued...

BTW, st regis has a web cam as well to see the bay...not as clear as Bali Hai from the shore cam but anyone can watch the day flow forward

This just posted on the evile Facebook's Co of Kauai's page:

PLEASE BE ADVISED: while Rescuers continue their efforts to search for a missing female hiker in waters off Hanakapiai Beach, and assist over 50 hikers across the stream, police have closed Kuhio Hwy north of Haena Beach Park until further notice to allow rescuers full use of the area surrounding the Kee Beach trailhead. Mahalo for your patience & understanding. Updates will be given as information becomes available.

http://thegardenisland.com/news/loca...9bb2963f4.html

Glad you posted the link weke. I thought it had been posted on kauaistyle's new thread, but never bothered to read.

Talk about deja vu. The very same thing happened this time last year. As scary and uncomfortable as it may be to wait for conditions to change and suffering rainy muddy overnight conditions. . .

Both women died trying to cross a raging stream a short distance from dangerously high surf, rather then wait it out.

Last year they had to rescue 30something people under the same conditions in Feb. I've not heard about this recent event, but it is often not a preventable situation as many are campers on the 11 mile hike and not day trippers that didn't look at the days reports.

Tragic. Crossing that stream can be difficult in moderate conditions.

Another search and rescue is underway : (