rizzo0904

Headed to Julian for a daytrip from San Diego with our preschool-aged boys. We’ll be spending a few hours at Smith Ranch, and of course having apple pie. On the way out, we’ll take 67 to 78 through Ramona. I think this takes us by Dudley’s Bakery. On the way home, we’ll take 79 to 8 through Descanso. Anything we should stop and check out on the way? Small family hikes are fine, but we won’t have our boots or supplies since there is no room in our luggage this time.

Barbara

Along highway 79 you're driving through Cuyamaca Rancho State Park. There are a lot of hiking trails. Here's a link to the Park website.

http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=667

Tomsd

Walkng around Cuyamaca Lake is beautiful. You might see Wild Turkeys, hawks, etc. You could even rent a boat for half a day and take the boys out fishing, making sure of course, you all had your lifejackets on.

http://tinyurl.com/7ynf5tm

1JAR

Just a cautionary note.

The rattlesnake season seems to have started early and they are out. 2 weeks ago a young child was bite by a rattlesnake and is still in our San Diego childrens hospital.

There have been several other children bit../so without boots, just be extra carelful with the little ones. Be sure to always look under car too..they like it there.

rizzo0904

um, yah...not into rattlesnakes. and if any kids are going to find one, it's mine. i'm not kidding when i say i have the most active and adventurous kids i've ever met. unless they are asleep, it's go go go.

maybe we'll just hit up poway in the morning on saturday for the market and then the steam train. then we can drive to julian for smith ranch. and then head back. without boots and proper hydration equipment, hiking may not be the best idea.

Barbara

"Proper hydration equipment"? Bottled water won't do?

The child who was bitten was, like most kids who are bitten, in his own backyard. If his parents had an ounce of sense, he'd have had medical help considerably sooner than he did.

rizzo0904

Don't you guys hike with camelbak packs or the like? Especially in your more desert like environs? Hiking with just a bottle of water can be a big mistake.

Tomsd

If you are walking along trails - and making noise - most snakes will just slither away. Just look ahead and make sure some big snake isn't sunning itself on the trail - and you step on it.

I have killed a rattler here in the hood (Mission Valley) - no big deal - just get the hoe. Normally the rattlers won't strike unless they are cornered or you distrub them - such as by stepping on them.

Uno Mas - Lake Cuyamaca is a big favorite of mine. Nothing like camping nearby and catching some fresh rainbow trout and having that pan fried for breakfast with some pancakes and eggs.

As for a backpack of water, mate - it's not as big of an area around here as you might find down under, nor as rugged. Most hikes are fairly well laid out and a bottle of water usually suffices, of course, until some dummy gets lost. Cuyamaca is very tame/easy to find your way around. It's not a big lake.

Tomsd

Come to think of it - while I like Julian and the beauty of getting up to say 4,500 feet - Lake Poway (10? minutes from the Choo Choo train) - has some fishing (no trout in the summer - too warm) - but it would be fun to walk around - or also rent a boat for half a day.

It's also not that big. I hiked halfway around it in under 30 minutes, to Hidden Cove - were the dang fish had stopped biting when I arrived. Did catch some nice "bows" another time though. Nothing like freshwater fish - that just came out of the water that day. Some of the saltwater/Tunas you have to let chill for a day or so - but not Rainbow Trout, etc. http://www.poway.org/index.aspx?page=624

Tomsd

Here is some more info on walking (easy hiking if you want to call it that around Julian.

Unless you make an effort to get away from the well marked trails - it's hard to really get in any trouble.

http://www.julianca.com/hiking_nature/index.htm

Tomsd

By the way - they have a cute restaurant at the main Lake Cuyamaca stop (right on the road heading down to Descanso - about 9? miles outside of the town of Julian) - reasonably priced with good food (the owners are/were from Austria) - and a nice view of the Lake.

http://www.lakecuyamaca.org/

Tomsd

Fooey - that doesn't take you right to the restaurant. Click on day use and it's at the bottom. Very cute - wood paneled place and very friendly - frequented by locals too. By the way - they have a cute restaurant at the main Cuyanmaca stop - reasonably priced with good food (the owners were from Austria?) - and a nice view of the Lake.

http://www.lakecuyamaca.org/

rizzo0904

thanks for all the info tom!

rizzo0904

Just saw the lake has a geocaching trail too. It's just under 2 miles and set up by the park itself so should be fairly easy. We love geocaching, but with toddlers they aren't all accessible.

Tomsd

And was part of the reason for going to the Smith Ranch in Julian to ride the old mining train? Haven't done that but bet the kids would love it. http://www.pioneerways.com/

Barbara

rizzo, Julian and Cuyamaca State Park are not "desert regions". Plus, you have two pre-schoolers/toddlers and not much time, so how far were you thinking of going?

rizzo0904

tom - yup...my kids love trains and i thought that place looked fun.

barbara - good to know. i had been looking at hiking the slots at anzo b.... no idea how to spell the 2nd word. that place appeared desert-y and not too far east from cuyamaca so i made an incorrect assumption.

rizzo0904

tomsd - i wish we could pm on here....

anyway... we are staying at a residence inn. would you recommend the one on kearny mesa or the one in sorrento mesa? the kearny mesa one has better reviews online, but was wondering about the areas?

sf7307

I hiked 7 miles on Sunday (temps in the 70s) and didn't finish a 16-oz. bottle of water!

Tomsd

rizzo - go ahead and email me if you need some more info: [email protected], and I will try to help. Actually - the drive down the grade from Julian to Anza Borrego Park is fun - rode a bicycle down it once while my wife was nice enough to trail behind in the car.

I don't think it's too much longer than half an hour?

fyi also: http://www.fostertravel.com/californ...rt-state-park/

I will hsve to look but Kearny Mesa is an ok area - lots of good/inexpensive Asian restaurants around there (on Convoy St) - among others. Sorrento Mesa is further away from the central SD stuff - Zoo, Seaworld, Embacadero, Gaslamdp, etc.