Is Oklahoma just a suburb of Dallas
Dec 14th, 2002, 08:59 PM
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Can Dallas say that you can enjoy Broadway productions, indoor climbing, ice hockey, desert and tropical ecosystems, independent films, water taxis, carriage rides, Dale Chihuly sculptures, salsa dancing and live jazz -- all within less than a square mile? I think not. Oklahoma City can.
Dec 15th, 2002, 11:12 AM
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Try the corner of toid and toidy-toid.
For the carriage rides... West End
For the ecosystems... Dallas World Aquarium
Broadway productions... Majestic Theatre
For ice skating... ice ring in Le Meridien hotel
Films... film series at DMA
Dale Chihuly... large installation in the north wall of the DMA.
Salsa ... Little Mexico
Live Jazz ... all over Deep Ellum, also in DMA thursday night
Rock Climbing ... YMCA gym,
For the carriage rides... West End
For the ecosystems... Dallas World Aquarium
Broadway productions... Majestic Theatre
For ice skating... ice ring in Le Meridien hotel
Films... film series at DMA
Dale Chihuly... large installation in the north wall of the DMA.
Salsa ... Little Mexico
Live Jazz ... all over Deep Ellum, also in DMA thursday night
Rock Climbing ... YMCA gym,
Dec 15th, 2002, 02:31 PM
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Having spent considerable time in Tulsa and OKC, I think that Oklahoma is definately an extension of Dallas. The Okies are all moving to Dallas. It is the closest big city, and they grow up going to Dallas for shopping trips and cheering for Dallas teams.
Dec 16th, 2002, 06:55 AM
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Daver-
Did anyone ask you to comment on Houston? And the reason there is no traffic in Oklahoma is because no one (in their right mind) would ever want to live there. So you can keep your pathetic little state all to yourself.
Oh and btw, Houston and Dallas may not have the best football teams, but at least we have professional teams. We don't have to root for the hicks at OU or OSU.
Did anyone ask you to comment on Houston? And the reason there is no traffic in Oklahoma is because no one (in their right mind) would ever want to live there. So you can keep your pathetic little state all to yourself.
Oh and btw, Houston and Dallas may not have the best football teams, but at least we have professional teams. We don't have to root for the hicks at OU or OSU.
Dec 16th, 2002, 08:43 PM
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Back to my original question, can Dallas boast all those activities within less than a square mile, in fact, within a few blocks of each other? The answer is still NO. I know more people who left for Dallas and came back and than those who have stayed in the so-called "Big D". The reason? The quality of life was simply better here. Who wants to drive from Carrolton or Richardson for a job in the so-called "Big D" that doesn't pay much more, but gives much more in headaches, crime, and time wasted on the road? An IT job goes a much longer way in OKC than it does in the so-called "Big D". Parents don't have to worry about a pot epidemic in our high schools.
And if I ever cared to venture south on I-35, it would be on I-35 W to Ft. Worth. At least its downtown has some personality.
And if I ever cared to venture south on I-35, it would be on I-35 W to Ft. Worth. At least its downtown has some personality.
Dec 17th, 2002, 03:50 AM
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designmr, if you like OKC, you should go for it.
If you have a varied range of activities in Ok City, I think that's a good thing... please continue to improve your downtown...
As to whether Oklahoma is a suburb of Dallas... well, no, it's not. Fortunately, the Dallas suburbs don't go QUITE that far.
As to whether Dallas/Ft Worth is a larger, more complex city than OKC, yes it is. About 5 or 6 times the population.
Does it make any sense to try to compare a metro with a million people to one with 6 million? No.
But why does it matter? OKC doesn't have to have to be the size of Dallas to be interesting or comfortable. A smaller city can have advantages that a larger one loses.
If you have a varied range of activities in Ok City, I think that's a good thing... please continue to improve your downtown...
As to whether Oklahoma is a suburb of Dallas... well, no, it's not. Fortunately, the Dallas suburbs don't go QUITE that far.
As to whether Dallas/Ft Worth is a larger, more complex city than OKC, yes it is. About 5 or 6 times the population.
Does it make any sense to try to compare a metro with a million people to one with 6 million? No.
But why does it matter? OKC doesn't have to have to be the size of Dallas to be interesting or comfortable. A smaller city can have advantages that a larger one loses.
Dec 17th, 2002, 06:06 PM
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Okay, we got off track a bit. Dean, if you are still interested in things to do in Oklahoma,let us know what you are interested in. In the meantime, here are a few suggestions:
*Oklahoma City National Memorial. A poignant museum located on serene yet powerful grounds in downtown OKC.
*Enterprise Square, USA. A quirky museum that sings the praises of capitalism, only in a much more fun way than any economics professor could.
*Bricktown. On the east side of downtown, an eclectic array of restaurants, clubs, and shops. A live blues and jazz scene is growing at the clubs and some restaurants. Fountains shoot up here, water taxis float, and baseball fans worship at the new retro-styled ballpark. Indoor climbing and virtual reality games give locals some diversion for those who don't want to just eat and dance. All in a renovated warehouse district.
*National Cowboy and Western Heritage Center. A classy gem featuring fine western art, native american art, a old-fashioned western town, and portraits of cowboys. Lush grounds and intriguing gift shop.
*Myriad Botanical Gardens. A lush oasis in a concrete jungle; you'll find Oklahoma's and the world's flora, fauna, and climates in this one downtown block.
*Stockyards City. Actual cattle auctions on a main street where modern-day cowboys shop and dine.
*Oklahoma City Art Museum. Warhol and Renoir. Chihuly and Crespi. Creme brulee and Grilled Atlantic Salmon. Sundance, Cannes, and Hitchcock. You'll find them all at the new, sparkling OCAM in downtown.
*Lake Hefner. Bring your bikes, kites, and rollerblades here during the day. Bring your palate just before night. Watch one of the most romantic sunsets you'll ever see.
*Oklahoma City National Memorial. A poignant museum located on serene yet powerful grounds in downtown OKC.
*Enterprise Square, USA. A quirky museum that sings the praises of capitalism, only in a much more fun way than any economics professor could.
*Bricktown. On the east side of downtown, an eclectic array of restaurants, clubs, and shops. A live blues and jazz scene is growing at the clubs and some restaurants. Fountains shoot up here, water taxis float, and baseball fans worship at the new retro-styled ballpark. Indoor climbing and virtual reality games give locals some diversion for those who don't want to just eat and dance. All in a renovated warehouse district.
*National Cowboy and Western Heritage Center. A classy gem featuring fine western art, native american art, a old-fashioned western town, and portraits of cowboys. Lush grounds and intriguing gift shop.
*Myriad Botanical Gardens. A lush oasis in a concrete jungle; you'll find Oklahoma's and the world's flora, fauna, and climates in this one downtown block.
*Stockyards City. Actual cattle auctions on a main street where modern-day cowboys shop and dine.
*Oklahoma City Art Museum. Warhol and Renoir. Chihuly and Crespi. Creme brulee and Grilled Atlantic Salmon. Sundance, Cannes, and Hitchcock. You'll find them all at the new, sparkling OCAM in downtown.
*Lake Hefner. Bring your bikes, kites, and rollerblades here during the day. Bring your palate just before night. Watch one of the most romantic sunsets you'll ever see.
Dec 29th, 2002, 05:04 PM
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I lived in the DFW "Metroplex" for 14 years, and transferred to OKC in 2000.
Skeptical at first, I wouldn't go back to Dallas to live for triple the salary. Friendlier people, less traffic, crowds, noise and hassle, much more affordable housing, a vibrant downtown with a new canal, new sports arena and growing nightlife.
I've got a new house on 10 acres with a for what a cookie-cutter house in Plano would cost. And as a consultant, I bill my travel to my clients, and airfares to either coast are half of what it costs to fly from DFW, making both me and my accounts very happy!
Dallas is fine - lots to do if you need that sort of thing to keep you happy, and , I can always hop a 40 minute flight for $50 bucks if I want to go there.
I just don't anymore.
And I'm a lot closer to skiing, too!
Skeptical at first, I wouldn't go back to Dallas to live for triple the salary. Friendlier people, less traffic, crowds, noise and hassle, much more affordable housing, a vibrant downtown with a new canal, new sports arena and growing nightlife.
I've got a new house on 10 acres with a for what a cookie-cutter house in Plano would cost. And as a consultant, I bill my travel to my clients, and airfares to either coast are half of what it costs to fly from DFW, making both me and my accounts very happy!
Dallas is fine - lots to do if you need that sort of thing to keep you happy, and , I can always hop a 40 minute flight for $50 bucks if I want to go there.
I just don't anymore.
And I'm a lot closer to skiing, too!
