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Old May 23rd, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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Interesting article in Honolulu Advt.

Read an article other may find interesting in today's Honolulu Advertiser.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar.../ln/ln01a.html
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Old May 23rd, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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Great Article. Thanks for posting!
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Old May 23rd, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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Ditto!
 
Old May 24th, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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This was really interesting. Though I haven't used the "Revealed" books, if I ever do get one for another trip, I will definitely be cautious.

Thanks for the link.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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I get a message saying the article is no longer available. Please give us the gist of what it said.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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The article is critical of the "Revealed" series of Hawaii Guide books. Here is a new link:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar.../ln/ln01a.html
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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Just noticed that the link I posted is the same as the previous link given. However, it worked for me. Try it again.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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Reply to Iceeu2,
Might wanna mark your calender for "Oahu Revealed", article states an October release date.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Or you might want to read the article and forget about Oahu Revealed !
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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Bible article states Oahu secrets to be revealed.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Anything can be misused. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water, as they say! The books have excellent pictures and reviews. Just use common sense...
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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There was a thread in January about an article in the Maui News that reported on the Maui Revealed book's impact on the local scene. Though you can't access the article here's the a link to the thread: http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...1&tid=34462776
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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I kept trying and got it....thanks..interesting article.
 
Old May 24th, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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It's about time someone living in Hawaii (besides the authors) wrote exactly what they think about these books (Hawaii Revealed, etc). I kept hearing how much local people disliked them, and now I understand why.

Sure, on the Big Island send people over the lava fields to the Pu'u O'o vent...and more than their shoes may melt...

And Trilogy on Maui? I've been on it at least 4 times, and I have to say that it was an incredible snorkeling experience. It's a shame that Maui Revealed can slander a company as good as their's and get away with it.

The Advertiser's article is excellent. is

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Old May 24th, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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I had an experience with Trilogy that was considerably less than wonderful. What it comes down to - whether you're a guidebook writer or just a tourist - is that everyone has their opinion. A bad opinion is not necessarily slander.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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True, Crazy4Hawaii, a bad opinion isn't necessarily slander, however I meant slander more as an insult or a slur against Trilogy. And we are all intitled to our opinions. It's a shame they had to malign them, that's all.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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I own the book, but don't have it handy... does anyone know what exactly they said about Trilogy? If they provide reasons for not liking their service, there's nothing wrong with that... it's just a review... just like restaurant reviews, etc. If they just say something like "Don't use Trilogy" and do not give reasons, that's a different story. But from what I remember, they never really did that.

As for their restaurant reviews, it was actually refreshing to hear an real opinion for once in a guidebook instead of just the restaurant listings that many fo the books seem to do. And I don't recall them slamming too many places, except maybe for poor service.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Thanks for posting the article Voltaire--very interesting. I purchased one of the books and thought that it seemed the authors took a lot of liberties. It does give what appears to be some very useful information. However, as I stated in an earlier thread, I cannot imagine "ignoring" no trespassing signs but apparently many do.

One of the faithful Maui posters here mentioned a while ago that a couple of people had been killed attempting some of the "off the beaten path" hikes etc. Apparently now these paths are very beaten since the book came out and private property is being damaged.

Where is the accountability?
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Since we have a free enterprise system, if enough people feel the books are unethical and stop buying them, that should be enough "accountability". However, I don't see that happening.
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Old May 24th, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Maui Revealed 2nd edition states about Trilogy: "We were hard on them in the last edition, taking them to task for their snippy, smart-alec crews. (Their irate owner responded in public by referring to us as "tabloid terrorest" because of that" Despite their attacks, fair is fair, and we have to admit we've notice some imporvements since then. Most of the snotty attitude is gove. Though we think you can do better than Trilogy, you'll still probably have a good time on their boats...." "On the positive side, they have a decent BBQ chicken lunch (and a good continental breakfast), freshwater showers and their nice boats, when they sail are fun......"

So it's a little good and bad.

To me - it's constructive criticism. It's certianly not bad enough to keep me from using them.
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