Hurricane Frances?

Aug 31st, 2004, 12:33 PM
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I agree with GoTravel about the plywood, Scarlett. As for your altitude, do you have Flood Insurance? If you don't (not required by your mortagor) then you're probably comfortably above sea level, and not in the "zone"...
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Aug 31st, 2004, 01:04 PM
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Wow, Joan & Scarlett what was it about Blacktie, sobetraveller, Itraveldou, Jerrey that you spotted so quickly? I couldn't get www.hurricaneadvisories to open so I came to Fodors and thought I was reading what appeared to be valid and helpful info. Scarlett, I'm fairly new to this board but I gather you recently moved to JAX. Anyway, in your closing papers when you purchased your home is a survey of your property and it's possible it shows various height elevations. If you live in that beautiful, old neighborhood (can't remember the name, did my internship there too many years ago) near the St. John's River, flooding may be more problematic. Might want to lay in a supply of sandbags from either Home Depot or the fire station just in case water starts seeping under your doors. Won't do any good if the storm surge is too great but can minimize damage if it's borderline or the hurricane stalls and sits off the coast like Elana did here in Tampa in 1985 and the bay couldn't empty at high tide. As I recall, most of the Riverside area (I do believe that's the name) has Live Oak trees and they are much less likely to blow over than Laurel and Water Oaks. But just to be sure, you might want to have a tree surgeon remove any branches hanging over your house, if possible. Good luck and I hope this "baptism by fire" doesn't make you flee the sunshine state.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 01:12 PM
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Scarlett, I think boarding up the windows is something that is mostly for homes along the coast or at the brunt of the storm. I would not do it.

Have you had any flooding where you are? It's an area of older homes, you say. Talk to the neighbors (which it sounds like you're doing). Sometimes the rivers will flood because so much water falls in such a short amount of time. But usually people in the neighborhood know what's happened in the past and whether this is a problem in your neighborhood. If you want some historic advise, call the St. John's River Water Management District. They will know.

If Frances (or one or another of these storms) heads your way, pay attention to the local news. Find a newsy AM station to listen to. Watch the weather channel. Find out what zone you are in and evacuate when told to go. Go somewhere high but close by so you can get back into your house soon. Take your insurance policy with you. Take photos with you.

If the river does rise, it will rise gradually and slowly seep into your house, not pounding and crashing. Put things up off the floor to minimize water damage. Be grateful it is not salt water which is much more corrosive. Fill your tub with water in case you are without water.

Be prepared to go. You will be given ample time. I would wait until the last minute for putting things up off the floor, and for leaving, because these storms are so unpredictable.

Don't worry. Most of the time, the storms just pass us by.

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Aug 31st, 2004, 01:30 PM
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Meanwhile here in Collier County (Naples) Florida, we've just been given a severe thunderstorm warning. Expecting up to baseball sized hail and severe lightning. How can it get more severe than during our normal storms? Guess we're about to find out.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 01:35 PM
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Baseball? Sheesh. WHAT is going on?

I can predict the next headlines: Killer Watermelons Crash Windows in Naples.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 02:05 PM
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Hmmm. Checked the official on Weather Underground where it says "dime sized" hail. On TV they said "baseball" sized. What size are dimes in your area? Meanwhile we're supposed to go to dinner in a little while with our next door neighbors -- the ones who laughed when Charley was coming and refused to budge from their townhouse. I think I'll make them drive -- I'm not risking my car to any sized hail.

Tandoori Girl, watermelons?????
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Aug 31st, 2004, 03:11 PM
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I have a tendency to fantasize when I'm stressed, Patrick.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 03:52 PM
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Thank you for all the good advice!
Our neighbors came over a while ago and talked to us about the storms here. We are indeed NOT in a flood zone, ( although we are between the St Johns River and a "creek") they said they have never boarded their windows, that the only thing that worries them is the trees also.
Well, nothing I can do about the trees, so we will just make sure that things that can break or be damaged are tucked away safe and hope for the best.

After a while you start to recognise a posters "voice" and style. Some people are serial screen name changers and post to cause trouble or to insult people. This little person is just so obvious it is easy to recognise him.
If you are ever in doubt, click on the posters screen name, if they have no other postings, you can figure they are 1- a newbie 2- someone who changes their name all the time, so Fodors won't catch them acting like a fool.
But on the whole, you have a huge amount of advice and Travel knowledge here, enjoy it and use it

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Aug 31st, 2004, 04:43 PM
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I really like Blacktie (or whatever Moniker her uses). He always makes me feel that whatever I say is lucid and easy to understand. He/she always seems to break the monotony, a good thing. Never a dull moment. Truthfully, I think Blacktie is ADD and has OD'd on his ritalin.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 05:26 PM
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Breaking the monotony, Tandoori, is not fine if it is at other people's expense, which is Blacktie's--and some others--agenda. I don't care for monotony either, but is rudeness and belittling others for the sole purpose of stirring the pot the alternative? Is that the only way some can feel better about themselves? Some of what goes on here most people left behind on the grade school playground, and so much of what is said would never have been said had people been speaking face to face.

This situation has been over a year in the making, not just with me, and frankly, I've had enough. I'm sorry I didn't have the chance to respond today on the thread where this would have been more meaningful. Generally I've tried to behave here as I would face to face. I have not previously said what I most certainly would have liked to, simply because this is a pubic forum, nor have I said anything I would not have said to someone's face. If you, or anyone, would like to have some understanding of what on earth is going on, please email me and I'll happily explain it. I'm finished tippy toeing around it. [email protected] That address has been posted here before and is not one I use on a regular basis now, but I'll be glad to fill anyone in who is interested and/or bewildered. Enough is enough--and Tandoori, I especially welcome your inquiry as you were most certainly a player today. Thanks so much.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 06:12 PM
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OO, I don't want to go behind the scenes with you or anyone else because I prefer anonymity. But I would love for you to tell me and everyone else what the problem is. This is a public forum. I'm not sure why anyone takes any of this personally as it is just a bunch of anonymous people voicing their opinions. You've always been a strong voice so I am having a hard time imagining you caving in to a faceless bully.

Please let's bring this to the forum where it belongs. What are the issues that we should know?

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Aug 31st, 2004, 07:16 PM
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I think you might get the answer to your question, Tandoori Girl by just reading some past postings by Blacktie whom you admire so much.
I seem to remember just today, you and he had some fun mocking OO. That thread may have been frozen or deleted by now.
I do not think OO or anyone else on here needs to explain on these forums why they resent or dislike being insulted by other posters.
While it might be fun for some, just joshing for others, many find it unpleasant and irritating.
So why not let this subject just drop now.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 07:19 PM
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I guess I'm not as thin-skinned as some folks.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 07:31 PM
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This forum is funny in how it tries very hard to suppress others. I don't really care for his rhetoric (which is what I was implying by saying he makes me seem lucid) but there is little one can do about it. It's like trying to stop the KKK. They have a right to be heard no matter how offensive they are.

I find his drivel to be just that. I'm sorry if you or OO were offended as no offense was intended. Sometimes there is such drama on this board, I'm just trying to bring some levity to my post. I guess I'm inane and stupid. I didn't realize OO was so traumatized by this idiot. Thanks for sharing that with me, Scarlett.
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Aug 31st, 2004, 07:57 PM
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Sucha storm sounds serious, Scarlett. Scared, and still sad? Sigh.

Sending spiritual support,
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Aug 31st, 2004, 08:03 PM
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mr, you ARE wunrfl!
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Sep 1st, 2004, 01:22 AM
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Some fools here I just don't tolerate and so I don't read their posts and certainly take nothing they say to heart. We do not have an "ignore" feature here on Fodors. You certainly wouldn't think you would need them here. We are civilised, not like some crackpot Yahoo board.

I have no thoughts regarding Black Tie, don't even remember any of his/her remarks. The Black Tie name brings no posts on a search so I assume Fodors has removed him or suspended posting privileges.

I'm going to try to make a decision regarding evacuation this afternoon. If I decide to stay, I do have reservations guaranteed for tonight north of Tampa and others later in the week further afield. If I stay, I'll let you all know. Maybe someone can use my reservation numbers. LMF
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Sep 1st, 2004, 03:37 AM
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I just hope everyone is paying careful attention to this monster. I'm all the way over in St Pete & it's got me nervous. My, it's been a busy season!
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Sep 1st, 2004, 05:24 AM
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OO, I hope my rather abrupt post last week did not add to your distress....if it did I apologise. I was a bit tired and overwrought and overreacted. You have always been a sweetheart here, and I hope you continue to add this forum.
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TandooriGirl, if you go back and read Blacktie's posts, you will see he was way over the line on many postings.

Funny is one thing but his/her remarks were uncalled for.

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