How to do 4 people in a room for cheap?
Jan 28th, 2003, 01:29 PM
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Gosh if this posts more than 1 time I'm sorry:
Just thought I'd step in with my two cents. Four of us stayed in one room (not vegas) that had two doubles or queens. We were totally upfront about the fact there were 4 of us. We ordered room service every day for breakfast and purchased other amenitites. We also used all the towels given to us each day as well as the terry robes included. In the end they did not include the additional person charge for the two extra people though I was expecting it. Maybe it was because we spent our money there in other ways. My advice is to be up-front about the number of people in your group and pay the additional charge. How much more could it be if you divided by 4? An extra $5 per person per day?
Just thought I'd step in with my two cents. Four of us stayed in one room (not vegas) that had two doubles or queens. We were totally upfront about the fact there were 4 of us. We ordered room service every day for breakfast and purchased other amenitites. We also used all the towels given to us each day as well as the terry robes included. In the end they did not include the additional person charge for the two extra people though I was expecting it. Maybe it was because we spent our money there in other ways. My advice is to be up-front about the number of people in your group and pay the additional charge. How much more could it be if you divided by 4? An extra $5 per person per day?
Jan 28th, 2003, 01:41 PM
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Well, bri19sp, hotels sure would be inflicted with a lot of anger if they charged as much for a single traveler as they do for a couple, yet that is what you propose. Since you make it clear that four don't take cost any more than two, and that all rooms should be the same price regardless of the number of occupants, that must mean you believe hotels should charge a single traveler the same as a couple?
Some hotels do in fact charge by the room, and cost the single traveler as much as for two, and at the same time, those hotels do allow four for the price of two (or one in that matter), but I know a lot of single travelers avoid them as they expect a reduction since there is only one in the room.
You're entitled to your opinion, but frankly I think it should be cheaper for one person than for two. So logically I also think it should cost more for four than for two.
But just how much charge are we talking here? With these rantings about hotels "gouging" or "ripping off" customers one would think they were doubling the cost or something outrageous. I thought I've usually seen an extra fee of something like $5 to $12 per person. Is that not right?
Some hotels do in fact charge by the room, and cost the single traveler as much as for two, and at the same time, those hotels do allow four for the price of two (or one in that matter), but I know a lot of single travelers avoid them as they expect a reduction since there is only one in the room.
You're entitled to your opinion, but frankly I think it should be cheaper for one person than for two. So logically I also think it should cost more for four than for two.
But just how much charge are we talking here? With these rantings about hotels "gouging" or "ripping off" customers one would think they were doubling the cost or something outrageous. I thought I've usually seen an extra fee of something like $5 to $12 per person. Is that not right?
Jan 28th, 2003, 02:17 PM
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Anthony: you're right, I did not check the next page. Checked Alladin: $60 charge for extra people per night. Wow!
May as well get 2 rooms at Sahara
By the way they charge only $30 per night additional.
May as well get 2 rooms at Sahara
By the way they charge only $30 per night additional.
Jan 28th, 2003, 02:49 PM
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Bri, you have been asserting that there is no extra expense to 4 in the room as opposed to two. In your thinking, a room is a room.
I'm going to take a different approach as no light came on for you in the others. Let's say you and your spouse live in a 1BR, 1BA efficiency in NYC. You've got two double beds in the room although you and spouse only sleep in one of course. Assume you have to clean it up daily--bathroom, make bed, vacuum, change your towels. You pay all your utilities, water, gas, electricity.
Now assume two friends come to visit for the week and you are still in charge of all the cleaning chores--after all it isn't their responsibility to do it in your house. Now you have 4 people using your bathroom. What a mess. Does it take you longer to clean it? You bet. Hey...I just replaced that toilet paper roll. Who's using so much? Where's the soap and gads what happened to MY shampoo? What a nuisance moving all this junk around on the counter top as you clean, huh?
Now wash 4 towels, not two, dry, refold, hang up--whoa...are they beginning to look worn?
Move on into the bedroom. Hey...now you've got two beds to make, not one. Double the work. Frown. Who put their wet glass on that table...look at those rings. Scrub them off. Geez everyone's sitting on the bed because now there's not enough room. The spread looks like heck and it had been new. Clothes are everywhere...how are you going to clean all around that stuff. But you'd better clean and clean well, because if you miss anything, they are going to trash your good name to their friends any chance they get!
They stay a while. 4 people not two used the hot water every day, used water every day, used the hairdryer (yours and now it's wearing out) every day. You're getting bummed because not only are your guest friends work, but they are getting expensive too. Dang, you just got those curtains right but 4 people have been pulling them open and closed and now they're off the track. You get the picture? Oh, by the way--don't forget to pick up more shampoo and soap when you go to the store, and deteregent for the washing machine too, OK? And listen...we need 4 glasses in the bathroom not two. Get with the program!
As to gouging. Sorry. It's just not happening. The reality is that between 9-11 and the economy, both business and leisure travel are down sharply. Competition is stiff and prices are down, revenue down, occupancy down, and hotels are laying staff off right and left just to make ends meet plus retain enough capital to make the necessary upgrades, because if you let that end slip and rooms start showing wear and tear--you're dead. Everyone still expects perfection despite decreased revenue. At one point we had cut our staff by 30%! We had no choice. We had to make ends meet. Yet we also had to do, and did do, a $10 million dollar renovation, so you and your friends don't come back from a stay here and complain not only about service not seeming quite the same, but also about things looking a little tired.
Open your eyes a little, OK?!
I'm going to take a different approach as no light came on for you in the others. Let's say you and your spouse live in a 1BR, 1BA efficiency in NYC. You've got two double beds in the room although you and spouse only sleep in one of course. Assume you have to clean it up daily--bathroom, make bed, vacuum, change your towels. You pay all your utilities, water, gas, electricity.
Now assume two friends come to visit for the week and you are still in charge of all the cleaning chores--after all it isn't their responsibility to do it in your house. Now you have 4 people using your bathroom. What a mess. Does it take you longer to clean it? You bet. Hey...I just replaced that toilet paper roll. Who's using so much? Where's the soap and gads what happened to MY shampoo? What a nuisance moving all this junk around on the counter top as you clean, huh?
Now wash 4 towels, not two, dry, refold, hang up--whoa...are they beginning to look worn?
Move on into the bedroom. Hey...now you've got two beds to make, not one. Double the work. Frown. Who put their wet glass on that table...look at those rings. Scrub them off. Geez everyone's sitting on the bed because now there's not enough room. The spread looks like heck and it had been new. Clothes are everywhere...how are you going to clean all around that stuff. But you'd better clean and clean well, because if you miss anything, they are going to trash your good name to their friends any chance they get!
They stay a while. 4 people not two used the hot water every day, used water every day, used the hairdryer (yours and now it's wearing out) every day. You're getting bummed because not only are your guest friends work, but they are getting expensive too. Dang, you just got those curtains right but 4 people have been pulling them open and closed and now they're off the track. You get the picture? Oh, by the way--don't forget to pick up more shampoo and soap when you go to the store, and deteregent for the washing machine too, OK? And listen...we need 4 glasses in the bathroom not two. Get with the program!
As to gouging. Sorry. It's just not happening. The reality is that between 9-11 and the economy, both business and leisure travel are down sharply. Competition is stiff and prices are down, revenue down, occupancy down, and hotels are laying staff off right and left just to make ends meet plus retain enough capital to make the necessary upgrades, because if you let that end slip and rooms start showing wear and tear--you're dead. Everyone still expects perfection despite decreased revenue. At one point we had cut our staff by 30%! We had no choice. We had to make ends meet. Yet we also had to do, and did do, a $10 million dollar renovation, so you and your friends don't come back from a stay here and complain not only about service not seeming quite the same, but also about things looking a little tired.
Open your eyes a little, OK?!
Jan 28th, 2003, 08:23 PM
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Maybe it is just me but I wouldn't want to share a room with 3 other people - unless they were my own very young (and small) children. I do know friends who share rooms with other people (including couples) but just not my cup of tea.
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