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Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:29 AM
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Leslie is an idiot. The fact that people this stupid can afford to spend $1000 on a meal is a testament to how easy it is to make money in the US.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:29 AM
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Folks,
I wouldn't bring this up unless it were still a sore subject. There is no way you can have a discreet discussion at the table in front of guests about a tip and my husband picked up the bill and passed over his credit card and I didn't realize until they chased us down that there was an issue. So far the person who commented on waiters being taxed on 15% made the most logical sense. The real issue is twofold: 1) how to explain to people the American custom of tipping and 2) what about the demeanor of the staff of the place who knew it was our wedding day and chose to make a federal chase over $50 bucks anyway. As it happens my father felt badly and covered it later as he returned to look for the wedding certificate. This changes nothing about what happened.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:29 AM
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Folks,
I wouldn't bring this up unless it were still a sore subject. There is no way you can have a discreet discussion at the table in front of guests about a tip and my husband picked up the bill and passed over his credit card and I didn't realize until they chased us down that there was an issue. So far the person who commented on waiters being taxed on 15% made the most logical sense. The real issue is twofold: 1) how to explain to people the American custom of tipping and 2) what about the demeanor of the staff of the place who knew it was our wedding day and chose to make a federal case over $50 bucks anyway. As it happens my father felt badly and covered it later as he returned to look for the wedding certificate. This changes nothing about what happened.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:31 AM
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Call the manager or send a copy of this thread to the hotel.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:33 AM
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IMHO it was in totally bad taste for the restaurant to chase you! And yes, they should have been sensitive to the fact that your husband wasn't from the US {though now that Hubby is aware of the different custom, I think that he should follow it - when in Rome...}.
I would have expected such a presumably high-class establlishment to be much more gracious - disappointing.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:35 AM
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leslie it's not two fold it is about paying what is due, a gentleman would have done that with apology from any country.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:36 AM
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People, people, people. We have been trolled. I called a friend of mine that works at the RC downtown (Battery Park City, NY) and she said that it is RC procedure *across the board* (meaning at all of their properties), to add the gratuity to a party of 6 or more. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:44 AM
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michelle,
nice investigative work. the thread was fun while it lasted!
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:49 AM
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It may be a custom across the board but it is also at the servers or managers descretion.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:50 AM
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I cannot believe you people are swallowing this hook, line, and sinker. There is no way on God's green earth that Ritz Carlton staff would "chase" anyone out of a restaurant to confront them about a tip. It will not happen. Period. End of story. The ONLY scenario that even could come close is that they were genuinely concerned that there WAS something wrong, hoped to make it right, and approached from that standpoint, then the embarrassed Leslie misinterpreted their intent...

And, if I'm mistaken Leslie, my apoloigies, and by all means, take it up with the GM, but in truth, their service mantra is so well ingrained and such a matter of pride, that I simply cannot abide by your initial account.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:50 AM
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why are you biting
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Seems to me Leslie is full of fishy stories
However, from what I read here, the waiter and maitre'd were asking if something was wrong not "you did not tip us enough"
As a former server, I only went after one person in 20 years of waiting tables. He ranted and raved about the great service, the bill was $250.00, he only left me $5.OO. I asked him what was wrong with my service. He stated nothing. "We had a great time". I then put my hand out to show him the $5.00 and I winced. He laughed, thanked me for coming after him and told me to look under the plate where he had been sitting. Folded neatly was a $50 dollar bill. He was curious to see what my reaction was going to be when I saw the $5. Interesting?
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:50 AM
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Michelle,

Thanks for the info.

Woodward and Bernstein would be proud of your investigative journalism.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:54 AM
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O.K., I just called to and they "do have procedures in place for gratuties" but it on a case by case basis or up to the manager. In otherwords if they know someone is a big tipper and they bring in a large group, they might not add it on.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 09:57 AM
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Uh... thanks *Dick*. And by the way... it is *not* at management's discretion whether or not to add the gratuity -- it is standard policy (RC, that is).
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 10:01 AM
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xxx
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Michelle,
Thats what I was just told. Call the one in St. Louis yourself.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 10:02 AM
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ny
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michelle;
don't get upset about Dick
He has posted a few times today as TRICKY DICK
seems today is the Anniversary of Watergate.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 10:04 AM
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I just think it's funny that she expects American restaurants to be more considerate of foreigners... While in the Bahamas I did not realize at first that the gratuity was added on to every check so I was leaving a tip on top of that. Do you think any of those servers pointed out to this foreigner that I was leaving too much?
No way! Moral of the story, it is your responsibility to know the rules of the country you are in, not theirs to teach you.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 10:06 AM
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why are you biting
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mik'
I agree...however, there was no way I was giving him back the 50 bucks! Just chalked it up to just another PA and thwe world is full of 'em
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 10:09 AM
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Mik you obviously have never waitered before that is what you have to deal with. While we all know you are paying for a service rendered with tipping, many Americans think they are handing out Christmas bonus when they tip.
 
Old Jun 18th, 2002, 10:10 AM
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What is a PA?
 


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