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Old May 7th, 2017 | 03:51 PM
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Help in finding my "perfect" place

I'm trying to escape California. Apparently I'm looking for a place that doesn't exist, but I'm hoping that someone might be able to offer some input/assistance. These are some of my bullet points:
* WEATHER: I cannot deal with heat or humidity. I prefer cold over heat. That being said, the less the snow, the better, although I'll take snow over heat.
* My preference is for a smaller town/city, but relatively close to medical facilities.
* Since I'm retired, I'd prefer living in a town with a higher median age, and I certainly don't care about whether there are schools in the area (that includes colleges or universities).
* Affordable housing is a necessity. I wouldn't mind an area where I could place a mobile/manufactured home. I do NOT want to live in an apartment.
* Outdoor activities are not a necessity, although the area needs to be one where I can walk daily, preferably on relatively level ground.
* Although the town might be small, I'd like to have local (or nearby) amenities -- a Walmart, or a Costco, or a Kmart, or other large department-type store, along with more than just a neighborhood market.
* Low taxes and an airport within driving distance are a plus.

My preference is the Idaho/Montana/Oregon areas, but I would look into any suggestions in any states at this stage of the game. Just help me get out of California.

Thank you for any input offered.
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Old May 7th, 2017 | 03:55 PM
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If you don't want snow, cross Idaho and Montana off your list, also Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington.

Western Oregon and Western Washington both meet many of your criteria, but you'll have to find a small town away from Portland or Seattle, both of which have high housing prices.
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Old May 7th, 2017 | 05:20 PM
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Initially I was going to suggest Park City (UT). It's a ski town with a lot of retired people, not humid, minimal LDS populace (if you aren't LDS you'll find this important) but it's expensive. Minimal low-income housing, cheapest place you could find without govt. subsidies would be around 500k.

However, look into Heber (UT). Higher LDS populace but nothing like Provo. Housing is less expensive, and it would fit your other reqs.
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Old May 7th, 2017 | 07:56 PM
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Topping this one since for some reason you decided to start a new thread and already had responses here . . .

You say you can handle snow but don't want that much of it . . Then say you are leaning to Idaho/Montana . . . which get a lot of snow.

Have you at all considered staying in CA but going far north -- like Siskiyou county?
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 03:42 AM
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I keep seeing New Hampshire coming up as an ideal retirement place to live.
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 05:23 AM
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Eugene, Oregon seems to be well placed on retirement lists. The university would be a plus for me, although maybe not for you.

Of course, the Research Triangle area in NC, where I live, also tops a lot of retirement lists, but given the very hot and humid summers I cannot recommend it.
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 05:31 AM
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Look at the Willamette Valley south of Portland. Springfield (adjacent to Eugene,) Lebanon (central part of the valley) and Salem were included in a list of affordable Oregon cities - http://www.movoto.com/guide/or/most-...ble-in-oregon/ .

Of those I'd probably pick Salem. It's big enough to have plenty of variety, and it's close enough to Portland for day trips, the airport, etc. It's the state capital and has a pretty mixed demographic makeup; the Willamette Valley wine country, Cascades and coast are all within fairly easy reach.
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 06:09 AM
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It would help if you could define in terms of actual dollars what you mean by "affordable housing". Without a dollar point of reference we have no idea what you can actually "afford".

Also, are you looking to rent or purchase your "affordable home"?

I wouldn't let the need for having someplace with "level ground" for walking be a deciding factor on where you relocate as it has been my experience that unless you live on the slopes of a very steep mountain you can always find someplace near where you live that has relatively flat areas for normal exercise type activities. you might have to drive a few minutes away from your home to find such places but the do exist just about everywhere.

As far as being near a Walmart, Costco or Kmart - that too should give you too much worry. There are some 4,700 Walmart stores currently operating across the US so there's bound to be one near where you live. There are fewer Costco's (about 510 across the US). K-mart, of course, is suffering from poor sales and while a few years ago, they had over 1,400 outlets in the US that number has dwindled down to about 730- still a respectable number. So, you can find the locations of all three outlets on their respective websites. A little bit of research will tell you which towns in every state have these stores. You'll probably find many towns that have 2 of the 3 stores near by and some that have all 3. Doing that research will help you narrow down your "ideal location".

The need for low taxes means you'll want to be in a more rural area and that translates to making some compromises on being close to some of the other amenities you want. On the plus side, you'll find manufactured homes tend to be more prevalent in rural areas vs. in bigger cities.

I think the biggest factor you have to deal with is balancing the type of weather you are seeking with everything else on your wish list. First, you really have to determine how much snow you are willing to deal with and as others have pointed out your original post seems to give contradictory messages on that front. Idaho and Montana get a lot of snow - we are talking "feet" not "inches" and it can last anywhere from 4 to 5 months. Will you be comfortable living in that type of climate? Which brings up another question - How much "walking" will you want to do in all that snow?

The coastal areas of Oregon may fit your needs as they get less snow but if I'm not mistaken it can be pretty "rainy' there throughout the year. Are you OK with that?

Sorry if I can't give you specific locations to consider but at least you'll have some more "food for thought".

Good luck finding your "perfect" place.
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 06:16 AM
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thursdaysd and Gardyloo have given very good advice. Anyplace between Eugene and Woodburn Oregon will meet your needs.
Yesterday I spent some time geocaching in the great town of Mt. Angel while DW was up at the monastery for a Master Chorus concert. I did see a couple of houses for sale and I saw a trailer park which may have some availability.
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 06:45 AM
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Perhaps I'm wrong but in talking to friends who live in Boise, it was not my impression that they get all that much snow, at least not like other parts of the state. This seemingly supports that:

https://www.tsheets.com/living-in-boise/climate-weather

Of course that doesn't address the other things on the OP's wishlist.
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 07:22 AM
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http://money.cnn.com/gallery/real_es...s-retire-2017/

As I suggested take a look at New Hampshire
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 08:41 AM
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I would add RoamsAround to the list of nice replies here.

New Hampshire can be wonderful. Last I looked, there was no sales tax and no income tax. Most of it is beautiful. There are wonderful college towns that would be good for retirees, Keene stands out, Plymouth is more mountain/country. The University is in Durham, but Durham is within commuting distance of Boston.

The area along the Massachusetts border, from Nashua east to the coast has high property taxes. I don't know how they compare with California, but they are high for New England. Most of the people along the border have moved from places with a lot of services and expect to keep those services. Without an income or sales tax, all you can tax is property.

In other parts of the state, services are less important than low taxes. You take your own trash to the dump, and there is no hurry to plow your road or fix your potholes or pave your road in the first place. Most locals like it that way. There are reasons why Subarus are the State Car in NH and VT.

Government on the local level is by direct democracy: town meeting. One day a year, every voter in town can come to an auditorium and vote on changes in budgets, taxes, zoning, and pretty much anything else. You can argue for anything on the Warrant (agenda) or you can argue against it. At the end of the day, every attendee gets one vote,whether they are a Ph.D. at Dartmouth, a rich landowner, or a brush cutter whose only sets are a chainsaw and a truck. All are created equal, and everyone gets the same number of votes.

The state motto is "Live Free or Die"; the working rule is "You mind your own business and I will mind mine."
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 08:47 AM
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From Ackislander: The state motto is "Live Free or Die"; the working rule is "You mind your own business and I will mind mine."

Hilarious AND accurate!!!!
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 09:46 AM
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It's really quite humid in a lot of Oregon--rains all winter. That might be OK as long as it's not coupled with heat, but thought I'd mention it.

Maybe someplace in Colorado? Boulder or Colorado Springs?? Median age is fairly low there, though.
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 09:49 AM
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Also, it's too bad that heat is a deal breaker, because you seem to be looking for the kind of retiree-centered towns that abound in Arizona and Florida.
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 12:37 PM
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My married son, California born and raised, moved to Boise almost two summers ago. He and his wife could not afford California housing. They ended up purchasing a new home (over 3100 sq ft) for just under $330,000 in a Boise suburb.

While it does get some snow, it does not get nearly the amount as other areas in Idaho. One of their cars is 4 wheel drive and they never had problems in the snow with it. This past winter saw more snow than usual, just like California had so much more rain. Otherwise the weather is beautiful.

It has all the other requirements you listed.

The only issues my son had to get used to is that Boise (as well as most of Idaho) is very conservative politically and alcohol sales are regulated by the state (same as Oregon).
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 06:47 PM
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Boulder area lodging is rare and sky high right now. Maybe Fort Collins?
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 07:32 PM
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Boise winters aren't bad, true.

But it isn't any cooler in the summer than most of California. Chief problem the OP has is she wants both mild winters and mild summers. And no humidity. So I can't think of anywhere that has all three...
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Old May 8th, 2017 | 08:20 PM
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Depends on where in California the OP lives. Inland, mild winters, hot dry summers. Coastal, mild year round, but more humidity. Mountains, mild summers with cold snowy winters.

Oregon has no sales tax, but property taxes are high (Hubby and I have a vacation home there).

Hope OP finds their paradise, but I think some concessions will have to be made.
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Old May 9th, 2017 | 04:42 AM
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You don't mention where in Calif you live. Calif is a large state and there are some beautiful areas in Northern CA that have cooler weather year round.

I agree with those that mention Oregon south of Portland - Salem, Eugene or maybe also check out Corvallis (about 85 miles south of Portland).

>>Like the rest of the Willamette Valley, Corvallis falls within the dry-summer subtropical climate zone, also referred to as cool-summer Mediterranean (Köppen Csb). Temperatures are mild year round, with warm, dry sunny summers and mild, wet winters with persistent overcast skies. Spring and fall are also moist seasons with varied cloudiness, and light rain falling for extended periods.>>
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