Hawaii Hotel Without Children?

Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Hawaii Hotel Without Children?

Besides the South Pacific, we are considering Hawaii, Kauai mostly, for our honeymoon. The problem is my fiance would prefer to be in a hotel/resort that does not allow children. Does anyone know a hotel in Hawaii, preferably Kauai, that does not allow children?
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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Interesting question.

I thought that it was illegal not to allow children.

Perhaps a small B&B might fit the bill.
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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what's the matter with children? they are small humans!
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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not when they're screaming and crying for 5 hours over the Pacific
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Hope you are not planning on an extended family after the nuptuals. As far as children....they're everywhere!
 
Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Try a B&B or small historic inn. Most don't allow kids under 16 years of age.

No Dick, it isn't illegal.
 
Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Or look for hotels with minimal "child-friendly" attributes. Some hotels have separate pools for adults who don't want to swim with families.
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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There most certainly are "adults only" resorts... sheez.

(sorry i don't have a recommendation for Kauai)
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Of course you don't have a recommendation Suze. An adult only resort simply does not exhist in Kauai.

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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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It is illegal in the state of Hawaii to discriminate against children, except in registered senior housing.

B&bs often are not "child friendly", so that may be an option.

Personally, I'd rather be in lux hotel with some kids, than a vacation home or B$B. Room sevice would be a high on my honeymoon!
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Icuy, that doesn't make sense.

Can you provide a link?

A hotel is a private entity and patrons use those facilities of their own free will.
 
Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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OK then, I should have said what I thought when I saw the title to this post... that I can recommend one in Mexico.

I did not realize Hawaii had its own laws concerning this. Please accept my apology.
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Go Travel, then by your reasoning, the ADA wouldn't apply to hotels because they're "private entities",. Wrong. and, if you can't discriminate because of old age, then you certainly can't because of young age. Hotels generally get around this by making themselves as unappealing to families as they legally can.

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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Barbara, ADA doesn't apply to hotel rooms just public spaces and they must be ADA complient.

The last three hotels I worked for had no ADA complient accommodations.

That is my point. Staying at a hotel is voluntary.

If you notice, airplanes are not ADA complient either.
 
Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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well then recommend Mexico, you never know what scotty will think.
 
Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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i think i already did
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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Sorry Suze, must have missed it. Maybe it was deleted as I don't see any Mexican resorts recommended on this thread. ??????????
 
Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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There seems to be some misunderstanding about the ADA here. It applies to all public accomodations. " Public accommodations are private entities who own, lease, lease to, or operate facilities such as restaurants, retail stores, hotels, movie theaters, private schools, convention centers, doctors' offices, homeless shelters, transportation depots, zoos, funeral homes, day care centers, and recreation facilities including sports stadiums and fitness clubs. Transportation services provided by private entities are also covered by title III.

Public accommodations must comply with basic nondiscrimination requirements that prohibit exclusion, segregation, and unequal treatment. They also must comply with specific requirements related to architectural standards for new and altered buildings; reasonable modifications to policies, practices, and procedures; effective communication with people with hearing, vision, or speech disabilities; and other access requirements. Additionally, public accommodations must remove barriers in existing buildings where it is easy to do so without much difficulty or expense, given the public accommodation's resources."

A hotel is NOT exempt from anti discrimination laws.
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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How would this be any different than communities that ban children from living in them? There are plenty "active adult" communities that forbid people under the age of 55.
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Old Sep 27th, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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SAB, thanks for that clarification. I just checked the San Diego Hyatt's website and found this:

"The staff at Manchester Grand Hyatt San Diego is committed to ensuring that we meet and exceed all of the requirements for the Americans with Disabilities Act."

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