Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > United States
Reload this Page >

Grand Canyon-visitors not allowed!

Search

Grand Canyon-visitors not allowed!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 27th, 2006 | 04:23 PM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 303
Likes: 0
Grand Canyon-visitors not allowed!

On a trip my sister took in 2004 on her way to Las Vegas, she decided to stop and see the Grand Canyon. At the time, she didnt know that the usual I-40 exit for the Grand Canyon is located in Williams, AZ. She proceeded further westbound on I-40 until she saw another exit for what stated was the "west rim of the grand canyon" and exited off near the town of Seligman,AZ (this exit is old route 66) and continued until she came upon the town of Peach Springs, AZ. On the map, it appeared as though a road ran from Peach Springs to the western rim of the Grand Canyon. However, once there, she was not permitted to travel upon this road, as a government sign indicated it was "native american soil and that only authorized personnel had permission to trespass". I was inquiring if anyone else has traveled along this route, or if anyone of Native American ancestry has been beyong these gates to the Western Rim.
mireaux7 is offline  
Old Feb 27th, 2006 | 04:33 PM
  #2  
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,586
Likes: 0
We've gone from Peach Springs on a highway to the Hualapai Hilltop, where we parked our car. From there was an 8 mile hike down to the village of Suapai on the Havasupai Indian Reservation. Perhaps your sister saw a different road, on Indian land.

karens is offline  
Old Feb 27th, 2006 | 04:52 PM
  #3  
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 17,226
Likes: 0
Grand Canyon NP has tourist access to the South Rim and the North Rim.
starrsville is offline  
Old Feb 27th, 2006 | 07:10 PM
  #4  
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 23,073
Likes: 0
From what I'm reading, the "West Rim" area is usually accessed from further NW than Peach Springs. Yes, there's a road from Peach Springs, but from what I understand it's a long 20+ miles gravel road over some mountains.

The proper way is to continue on 66 west another 15 miles or so to Anteras Road (past Hackberry). Go north there to Pierce Ferry Road, make a right; and then onto Diamond Bar Ave to the West Rim Center.
rkkwan is offline  
Old Feb 28th, 2006 | 05:40 AM
  #5  
TheWeasel
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I guess there's a lesson to be learned from this: know where you're going. It's hard to imagine somebody passing by the usual GC exit because they think there will be another one down the road. This ain't the big city where there are numerous exits for the same town.
 
Old Feb 28th, 2006 | 05:58 AM
  #6  
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,690
Likes: 0
Yes, Peach Springs is the "trail head" on the west rim to the Havasupai area and yes, it is NA land. I was going to do this trip (and still will) so did some research on it. You actually need to contact them to get a permit to hike down and stay there.
maria_so is offline  
Old Mar 1st, 2006 | 07:51 PM
  #7  
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
The moral of this story is "Know where you are going or don't go". If one looks at a map, it clearly shows Peach Springs and the surrounding area on the reservation and not in Grand Canyon National Park. A permit from the tribe is required to hike down to Supai. It is a rigorous but really great hike. I did it back in the olden days of my youth.
8-)
jamaltay is offline  
Old Mar 1st, 2006 | 09:31 PM
  #8  
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
What you say merits consideration, Jamaltay. But just because a road runs on indian soil, doesnt mean its automatically barred from travel for the outside public.
A prime example would be I-40. Once you enter Arizona from New Mexico, you are driving right in Najavo Nation.
Even in New Mexico, I-40 runs right through another indian reservation about 30 miles west from Albuquerque.
sonorandreams is offline  
Old Mar 1st, 2006 | 10:46 PM
  #9  
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
sonorandreams,

The road to Peach Springs and beyond is open to the public. What I was attempting to get across in my post was that if the OP's sister had looked at a map she should have known that to see the Grand Canyon she should go through Flagstaff or Williams. Peach Springs is not the desired way to go to see the Grand Canyon, being that it is a secondary road, on the reservation and not even in Grand Canyon National Park.

When reaching the end of the road only people(outsiders/tourists) with a tribal issued permit are allowed to continue on down into the canyon (on foot or mule) to Supai (8 miles).
8-)
jamaltay is offline  
Old Mar 1st, 2006 | 11:07 PM
  #10  
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,189
Likes: 0
http://www.nps.gov/grca/grandcanyon/south-rim/index.htm

Scroll down to the Havasupai Indian Reservation & Hualapai Indian Reservation.

Utahtea
utahtea is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
goldypug
United States
5
Aug 29th, 2007 03:33 PM
Jane22
United States
9
Mar 27th, 2007 04:37 PM
marge
United States
11
May 23rd, 2006 02:21 PM
mdc2003
United States
8
Mar 28th, 2003 07:18 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement -