For those people who really want to go to Death Valley in the summer
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For those people who really want to go to Death Valley in the summer
People often post here about visiting Death Valley. I've never understood the appeal of Death Valley but that may be because I used to live in a desert so I've been there, done there. I've also noticed that some posters just don't understand how dangerous a desert can be, even though many here will try to point out the risks. And GPS units can give a false sense of security.
So I came across this article in the Sacramento Bee and thought it would be a good reality check for anyone thinking about visiting Death Valley - or, really, any desert - during bad weather.
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/30/336...in-desert.html
Happy - and safe - travels.
So I came across this article in the Sacramento Bee and thought it would be a good reality check for anyone thinking about visiting Death Valley - or, really, any desert - during bad weather.
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/30/336...in-desert.html
Happy - and safe - travels.
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Great article! We are planning on going next Febraury. I can't imagine going in the summer.
They come here, have it in their itinerary, we tell them no way, but they still go. What can you do?
Thanks for posting the article.
They come here, have it in their itinerary, we tell them no way, but they still go. What can you do?
Thanks for posting the article.
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This tragic episode has been described and critiqued over and over since it happened in August 2009.
Odd that that Sacramento Bee is publishing it in winter.
As a cautionary tale, it makes most sense to post it in summer, when unaware travelers might be thinking of making such a trip.
Cell phone coverage has improved in the park, but it is not universal and a car GPS is never a substitute for good maps (note the plural) and a check in with the park rangers.
Odd that that Sacramento Bee is publishing it in winter.
As a cautionary tale, it makes most sense to post it in summer, when unaware travelers might be thinking of making such a trip.
Cell phone coverage has improved in the park, but it is not universal and a car GPS is never a substitute for good maps (note the plural) and a check in with the park rangers.
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Well, and then there's always the ultramarathoners in the Badwater race, every July. I have to admit, the stories I've read and the clips I've watched leave me fascinated and in awe - I can't relate at all to the desire to compete in the race!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badwater_Ultramarathon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badwater_Ultramarathon
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Thanks for posting this. We are thinking of going here as a side trip in April and this is a fear of mine. A GPS is just a navigation tool and not a substitute for a good map(s). I have learned this while using one where I live and know where I'm going.
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Death Valley early in the a.m. in the summer (or anytime) is spectacular. If you just drive through, and never hike Mosaic Canyon, or the myriad other wonderful walks into the rocks, you'll never really know what it holds. A spectacular volcanic crater, fish found nowhere else, sand dunes, huge variety of geological formations, can't begin to list the beauty of that park. If you stay on the roads and use your brain, there is no more danger than anywhere else.
And if you stay in the park, taking a swim in the mineral swimming pools attached to three of the lodgings is paradise! After summertime evening walk under a full moon, you will bump this park to the top of your list of favorites!
And if you stay in the park, taking a swim in the mineral swimming pools attached to three of the lodgings is paradise! After summertime evening walk under a full moon, you will bump this park to the top of your list of favorites!
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I was there in April 2009 and posted a trip report.
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...al-reserve.cfm
What is interesting to me in that article is the role of GPS.
It really is NOT a reliable tool in remote and rural areas, no matter what country you are in.
Use a map, check with the ranger, and bring a gallon of water per person (minimum).
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...al-reserve.cfm
What is interesting to me in that article is the role of GPS.
It really is NOT a reliable tool in remote and rural areas, no matter what country you are in.
Use a map, check with the ranger, and bring a gallon of water per person (minimum).
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I think everyone needs to understand that GPS are not really reliable anywhere. Even here in NYC they can give wrong directions. I had a new driver the other day and he passed the correct turn to try to find one that didn't exist - based on info from his GPS.
I told him the best way (backtracking was going to be much faster than gong forward( and then asked him why he didn;t know such a obvious turn. It seems he arrived from Texas the week before - and wasn;t really familiar with the city. (He should NOT have been driving without better info. When I said he needed to study a couple of maps - he laughed - but admitted that the GPS had given him wrong info several times - in ONE week - in Manhattan.)
I told him the best way (backtracking was going to be much faster than gong forward( and then asked him why he didn;t know such a obvious turn. It seems he arrived from Texas the week before - and wasn;t really familiar with the city. (He should NOT have been driving without better info. When I said he needed to study a couple of maps - he laughed - but admitted that the GPS had given him wrong info several times - in ONE week - in Manhattan.)
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We seem to catch this episode of Nature every time it's on PBS:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/deathvalley/
It's a little cheesy, in that Nature-voiceover kind of way, but it will show you some of the amazing things sylvia3 talks about. I'd love to visit there someday!
(As for GPS, I'm amazed that anyone still relies on it to the exclusion of anything else. Whether it's here in NYC, my vacation in Sicily last year, or the continual horror stories the media passes around, it's pretty clear they should be used to supplement other wayfinding information, not the other way around!)
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/deathvalley/
It's a little cheesy, in that Nature-voiceover kind of way, but it will show you some of the amazing things sylvia3 talks about. I'd love to visit there someday!
(As for GPS, I'm amazed that anyone still relies on it to the exclusion of anything else. Whether it's here in NYC, my vacation in Sicily last year, or the continual horror stories the media passes around, it's pretty clear they should be used to supplement other wayfinding information, not the other way around!)
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I was recently in Costa Rica which is infamous for its lack of street names and house numbers. I asked to follow a family back into town from Doka Coffee estate, since they had GPS... they led me on a tour of coffee plantation truck roads, no exit. I peeled off and asked some locals and begged the guard to unlock the beneficio gate for me. I think the family may still be up there in the fog.
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In answer to Stu's question, I like http://www.weatherbase.com/
for that sort of thing. It's a little tricky for Death Valley. You have to enter "Furnace Creek" for the city to get the right weather station.
for that sort of thing. It's a little tricky for Death Valley. You have to enter "Furnace Creek" for the city to get the right weather station.
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Stu, here's a bit of info about average weather for Death Valley: http://www.desertusa.com/dv/du_dvpmap.html
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Stu, take plenty of water and check in with the rangers too. I want you to be safe and happy; I rely on your Bay Area advice! Knowing you, I am confident that you will take all the needed step.
I'm thinking you are going for the blooms in April?
I'm thinking you are going for the blooms in April?