Family gets tossed off plane when child throws a temper tantrum.
Jan 24th, 2007, 07:48 AM
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I am on Air Trans side on this one. But why did they offer all the freebies? If I had been sitting next to this kid and had been delayed 15 minutes I would have been tempted to sit the kid in their seat myself.
Jan 24th, 2007, 08:11 AM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16773655/?GT1=8921
There's a short video on the above link showing parents and the daughter in an interview. Mom said she "just needs to let the public know what happened, and that this can happen to them if their child is crying too much".
I think the public needs to let the Mom know she's getting no sympathy from us!
There's a short video on the above link showing parents and the daughter in an interview. Mom said she "just needs to let the public know what happened, and that this can happen to them if their child is crying too much".
I think the public needs to let the Mom know she's getting no sympathy from us!
Jan 24th, 2007, 08:21 AM
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Joe,
If I've paid my billion dollars (or so it seems) for my airfare, have made my plans months in advance, have connections to make at other airports, and have made every effort to be on time and not delay other passengers, then yes, I deserve an on-time departure.
If I've paid my billion dollars (or so it seems) for my airfare, have made my plans months in advance, have connections to make at other airports, and have made every effort to be on time and not delay other passengers, then yes, I deserve an on-time departure.
Jan 24th, 2007, 08:23 AM
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You people who call the child a "beast" and "controlling" are making the same mistake indulgent parents make -- assuming children are just short adults.
In their case, they assume the child is their equal in some way and knows intuitively how to behave, so they assume they're helpless to change something that doesn't work. In your case, you're slamming the child for being childish and irrational and disobeying rules you think already intuitively know, without being taught.
There's a difference between an adult being manipulative and "controlling," and a child acting randomly to meet her needs because no one has provided boundaries or guidelines.
She's a three-year-old, for lord's sake! Even my "perfect" child at age three fell apart sometimes.
In their case, they assume the child is their equal in some way and knows intuitively how to behave, so they assume they're helpless to change something that doesn't work. In your case, you're slamming the child for being childish and irrational and disobeying rules you think already intuitively know, without being taught.
There's a difference between an adult being manipulative and "controlling," and a child acting randomly to meet her needs because no one has provided boundaries or guidelines.
She's a three-year-old, for lord's sake! Even my "perfect" child at age three fell apart sometimes.
Jan 24th, 2007, 08:42 AM
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Goodness. Can some of you guys be any meaner?
To take sides (any side) when none of you were on the plane is just ridiculous.
The airline chose to compensate them just like they chose to kick them off the plane.
The more you talk about it, the more you give the media a legitimate reason to do the story. You obviously care since you keep fighting about it, so they'll keep covering it... meaning you'll see more of the parents. Get it?
Let it go already.
To take sides (any side) when none of you were on the plane is just ridiculous.
The airline chose to compensate them just like they chose to kick them off the plane.
The more you talk about it, the more you give the media a legitimate reason to do the story. You obviously care since you keep fighting about it, so they'll keep covering it... meaning you'll see more of the parents. Get it?
Let it go already.
Jan 24th, 2007, 09:14 AM
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soccr, what are you talking about? Have some posts been removed? I see no one blaming the child. Sure we may refer to it as a "bratty child" but I assume we all know the reasons a toddler is "bratty" is because of not being taught or the parents not being in control. I fail to see anyone putting any blame on the child. What am I missing?
Jan 24th, 2007, 09:31 AM
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The kid wasn't seated a row in front of the parents. She was plopped on the floor of the middle seat in their row. All they had to do was pick her up and put her in the seat when the attendant told them to do so. Instead the attendant told them to get off the plane.
Jan 24th, 2007, 09:47 AM
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"All they had to do was pick her up and put her in the seat when the attendant told them to do so."
So why didn't they? You make it sound soooo easy for the parents to comply that it boggles the mind why they refused to do so.
Instead, they said "but she doesn't want to [sit in a seat]" and tried to get the airline to let the mother hold her on her lap instead (which FAA rules do not allow).
If people are not going to follow instructions, they will be asked to leave. If you want to argue with the flight attendants, go ahead - but be prepared to get kicked off the plane.
So why didn't they? You make it sound soooo easy for the parents to comply that it boggles the mind why they refused to do so.
Instead, they said "but she doesn't want to [sit in a seat]" and tried to get the airline to let the mother hold her on her lap instead (which FAA rules do not allow).
If people are not going to follow instructions, they will be asked to leave. If you want to argue with the flight attendants, go ahead - but be prepared to get kicked off the plane.
Jan 24th, 2007, 11:04 AM
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While many of us are talking about what the parents DIDN'T DO, it's important to think about what they DID DO. They gave the child a strong learning experience. They showed the child that they will back her up whenever she doesn't "feel" like doing something.
Jan 24th, 2007, 11:36 AM
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Interesting. The airline just behaved in the way that we are telling parents NOT to. They just rewarded them for not parenting. How long you think before this becomes a trend?
If you were asked to leave a restaurant because your child was disrupting other diners, would you expect them to comp your meal and give you a coupon to come back any time for another free meal? Simply idiotic.
Yes, 3 year olds act up. Children change your life. You may have to leave a theater, a store, a restaurant, and yes, a plane. This is part of child rearing. Being sympathetic to the parents is not the point. The point is that as a parent you have chosen to have kids, and thus sometimes have to be disappointed when they ruin your evening/day/event/trip. But, it doesn't have to ruin MY day.
If you were asked to leave a restaurant because your child was disrupting other diners, would you expect them to comp your meal and give you a coupon to come back any time for another free meal? Simply idiotic.
Yes, 3 year olds act up. Children change your life. You may have to leave a theater, a store, a restaurant, and yes, a plane. This is part of child rearing. Being sympathetic to the parents is not the point. The point is that as a parent you have chosen to have kids, and thus sometimes have to be disappointed when they ruin your evening/day/event/trip. But, it doesn't have to ruin MY day.
Jan 24th, 2007, 12:10 PM
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If you were asked to leave a restaurant because your child was disrupting other diners, would you expect them to comp your meal and give you a coupon to come back any time for another free meal? Simply idiotic.
Yes, idiotic, but probably less costly in the end than risking a lawsuit. Yep, idiotic...
Yes, idiotic, but probably less costly in the end than risking a lawsuit. Yep, idiotic...
Jan 24th, 2007, 12:38 PM
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Honestly, I have tried to be pretty objective on this, but come on. Leaving a theather or a shop is not the same as leaving a plane. Violating FAA rules is one thing, if in fact that is the case, but I have to agree that thinking the world owes you peace and quiet 100% of the time you fly is no better than the insensitivity the parents are being accused of showing. We should never condemn without truly knowing the facts either. I would also love to know what the other passengers have to say about what happened - all of them, from the hurried ones thinking about missing their connection to the other families on board.
