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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 05:06 AM
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You might try a google search. I think I've seen a website for newcomers to Alaska who exchange tips and advice. The realtor might be a good place to start for names of builders. Also the Home Depot in Soldotna/Kenai. A relative who used to live in that area (rented) bought a flat bed trailer from someone who would drive up a load of expensive lumber every year then sell the lumber and the trailer. When you visit you might compare the prices of some key items such as plumbing fixtures with back home. If you are planning to drive up again, it might be worth your while to bring some building materials with you. A bathtub might be too big but certain tools, electrical supplies etc might be worth toting. Shipping to AK is expensive. But the price of fuel is expensive now, too.
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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Where are you starting your travels from? Clam Gulch is roughly 3+ hours from Anchorage on a good day. Denali to Anchorage is 6-8 hours on a good day as well. With that in mind, it will take at least 2 days to get from the Canadian border to Clam Gulch. Just an FYI, you can buy building supplies in Soldotna and it will not cost too much more than the lower 48. While you are there, you might want to get your land perc tested to see if you will be able to get water and whether or not a waste system can be installed on your land. We are 2 years away from completing our build and making the trip via RV from the East Coast, so I know your excitement.
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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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Hello! Homer will be a beautiful place for you to retire! I am excited for you too.

Who do we get to do a "land perc" test and will it tell both whether water and septic will be able to take? We will be very disappointed if that is a problem. Both the realator and the seller knows that our intentions are to build so I hope they have an idea. Do you think they would just .."know" or would the test be the only way to tell?

The place that we bought is in a newly developed sub-division. The cult-a-sac road isn't even in yet. The terms in the contract are that the electric has to be brought up to our lot line and the road down to our property off of sterling highway be done by December '08. We talked to the seller yesterday and he said that the road is started but has a ways to go. We will meet him when we go the end of May so that he can show us the lot lines.

My husband talked to a builder the other day and he said that he was really booked this summer. We would really like to have someone put the "shell" up and have my husband finish out the inside.

Are you all planning to build your own?

We are driving from Oklahoma. Please gas prices DON'T RISE ANY MORE!!!

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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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Know you know why I say 2 years till we plan move. We learned that to have a house built, you must schedule the build a season ahead as the snow does not melt till mid June and starts to fall again in September. If you purchased the land as part of a sub division, there have been a perc test completed as part of the subdivision. Check with your realtor. p.s. you don't want to know what the local price of gasoline is outside of Anchorage is currently. Just remember, this is a priceless journey you have begun.
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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Yes, you are right, if there is a will there is a way and it will be worth every penny. Have you made the drive before or do you always fly?

Yes, I understand that we may not be able to start the building process until next summer and that is ok too.

I'm assuming you already have your parcels purchased?? How large will your lots be and how many square feet are you planning for your house? Will you be slightly out of town or in town? Are you visiting this summer?

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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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We have almost 2 acres.We are not "downtown" as the locals refer, rather up on the hill. We have not made the trip but son & daughter in law made the trip twice once from the middle of the country and the other from Oregon. They tell us, it's the section thru Canada that gets trying and if we survive that section, the rest will be fine. They tried to limit the driving to 8-9 hours a day. We normally fly to Anchorage and adventure from there.
We have been to Alaska in the spring, summer and the dead of winter. We wanted to visit during all seasons to make sure we could handle the climate changes. Just an FYI, winter is more beautiful than summer if you can imagine.
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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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Please, please don't take offense at this - I really wish you the very best luck in building a dream cabin in Alaska, and I have no reason to suspect that it will turn out to be anything but an enjoyable experience for you.

However, I've built a lot of housing in the bush and in reading your more recent posts I have to tell you my hairs are sort of standing up.

You bought undeveloped property sight unseen in November? And you're asking now about perc tests? Eesh.

Hopefully the land developer is reputable and before the Borough approved the subdivision plan they insured that the developer had conducted adequate soils tests to guarantee that the lots that were created are capable of supporting on-site water and sewage disposal. If you're going to be relying on an on-site well for your water, and an on-site septic tank and drain field for sewage disposal, the soil needs to be capable of absorbing the wastewater in a not-too-fast, not-too-slow manner (requiring "percolation" tests to determine) to make sure the waste water doesn't contaminate the well water. Two acres is often enough to ensure no conflict, but it's entirely based on specific tests on your parcel, not on any other nearby parcels' tests.

Buying in November offers no help to anybody in land sales - everything's frozen and under snow so you can't see from the types of vegetation present if it looks like swamp (poor drainage) or well-drained soils. It's really a gamble most people would not take.

Hopefully you have some fallback provisions in your sales contract - in case the site doesn't perc, etc. If not, you should probably look around for an attorney who can help resolve these problems, which unfortunately are rather common in rural Alaska.

If things appear okay, any surveying firm or soils consultant can help arrange the tests and septic/well designs that will allow you to build.

All the best to you and best of luck.
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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Good luck. There's a high % you will need it. I agree with the previous poster. I'm surrounded by former farm land that has been divided into 5 acre lots. Not a "subdivision". Each lot faces a country road. 1 out of the 20 lots does not "perc". The owner will never be able to build there. I have no idea what he plans to do with that land. He can't build. He has a tractor stored there and periodically someone comes out and cuts the grass - not for hay, but to just cut it. There's always that chance. If you can't live there, I can't imagine building there in short yearly segments. Good luck.
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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Gardyloo,
No offense for sure. I appreciate your thoughts and concerns and am hoping for the best as well. We are very trusting people.. which hopefully doesn't turn out to stab us in the back. I would hope that noone would knowingly try to hurt us but am sure that it could happen. We will go find out and hopefully our bubble won't be burst. We will keep you updated. We purchased to parcels which totals 3.9 acres if that helps any??? We are supposed to have a view of Mt. Redoubt.. the pictures look great of course. The property is about a mile from the cook inlet so don't know whether that is good or bad concerning "perc". Thanks again!

bdawk,
I bet you will have an amazing view there in Homer up on the hill! You lucky thing! I am so glad to hear that the winter is great too. There certainly will be less tourism then. Is the "freezing" cold more tolerable in such beauty?? I BET!!! It probably feels different too.
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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Hi Tammy

Although I live quite a ways from the area you propose to build,(SE Alaska), I think I can give you some helpful info. We also recently bought a parcel trough closed bid auction from Alaska Mental Health trust.
I think first thing, you need to make sure who owns the surrounding property. If it is state owned, chances are that future development is not likely. If it is Mental health trust, you might have a couple of too close neighbors too soon, kinda spoiling the idea of a secluded cabin.
Please realize that there is a lot of things regarding building that people from the lower forty eight take for granted. You will most likely not have access to any utilities (even though it is a subdivision - our house is going to be 500 yards from the highway. currently there is no road or utilities leading up to it). You will most likely be responsible for building all access roads to your property. This could easily become more costly than actually building your cabin.
Luckily for us in SE, we do not have water issues-simply put up a 3500 or 5000 gallon plastic water tank and you are good to go. Since my husband is in the water/wastewater supply industry, I will not make specific recommendations.
And as other people mentioned, drainage is incredibly important.

Otherwise, congratulations!
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Old Apr 7th, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Luckily for us in SE, we do not have water issues

Aah, AKGal, you are obviously someone who sees the cistern half full
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Old Apr 8th, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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Luckily for us in SE, we do not have water issues...

Understatement of the decade.
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Old Apr 8th, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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Hi Repete.
I'm not quite following you.
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Old Apr 8th, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Gal:
A cistern (or glass) half full person would say SE "doesn't have water issues."

A cistern (or glass) half empty person would note that folks who live there have web feet ...
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Old Apr 8th, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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That's a good one! I grew up in a very dry country so I don't mind the rain at all. I'm still getting used to the idea that people collect rain water for household use.
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Old Apr 11th, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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As I am an avid builder developer/lodge owner I would suggest this......

Do not let them Know you are from out of state if you do plan on building thru a local contractor, nothing against them but prices do go up....

If you are dead serious about having a cabin, do make note that you should know the land before you purchase it and MORE important meet your neighbors, becuase this will definantly help....

Knowing someone to watch over your place while you are not here is an important factor or after a long long winter of being absent you may find the cabin emptied......

Homer is wonderful yet spendy, clam gulch is a nice area and located not to far from soldotna for groceries, river property in soldotna is exspensive, but also very nice.. Another place to look down towards clam gulch area is the south end of kalifornski beach road it has some nice ocean view properties..... Good luck and see you in the neighborhood.
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Old Apr 12th, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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Man, this is thread is why I love this place. So much helpful info.
Tammy you're certainly living my dream, you lucky lady you. I wish you the best in this complicated endeavour.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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Hello ImAlaskan! Thanks for your helpful information. The original property owner is going to meet us when we get there and hopefully guide us in the right direction. My husband is a great carpenter himself but can't handle a job like this himself. It would take him too long. He will probably want to do all of the finish work inside. He will just need help with the frame .. I guess that's what you call it..??..

Tzarinna.. thanks for your kind words and encouragement! If you have a dream.. make it happen! look forward to your future. Start planning now on how to achieve your dream.. ok??
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Ha,thanks, Tammy.
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Old Jul 5th, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Well.. got another update for all of my helpful friends! I LOVE IT! I just returned from a one month stay including the 10 day trip up. My husband is still up there clearing trees. We will start the building next summer. Thanks for all of your help!!

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