Best/worst sports fans in the US
Oct 25th, 2001, 03:25 PM
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sss -
It appears that you misinterpreted my comments. There are in fact people in this city and places all over the country that whine that there is nothing to do but eat and watch televised sports - sad, but they're out there. That was my only point. Hopefully this discussion will end here - as it was originally between 2 people other than yourself.
It appears that you misinterpreted my comments. There are in fact people in this city and places all over the country that whine that there is nothing to do but eat and watch televised sports - sad, but they're out there. That was my only point. Hopefully this discussion will end here - as it was originally between 2 people other than yourself.
Oct 25th, 2001, 04:37 PM
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Hey sss, thanks for backing me up. I have lived in Chicago for 31 years, born and raised, second generation on both sides, sorry Holly but I've been to all the museums more than once and also to our many theaters. Chicago IS known as a sports town whether you agree or not. We are known for it and would not be as exciting without our teams.
Oct 25th, 2001, 05:17 PM
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Chicagoan -
You're STILL missing my point - and I don't why. My statements couldn't be more clear. Try re-reading what I said - 1) I AGREED that Chicago is a great sports town; and 2) My statement that there is even more to do in Chicago than that had absolutely nothing to do with museums or theatres. I'll try again - I disagree that there is nothing to do other than watch our sports teams and eat (your words) - that doesn't mean I'm suggesting that either of those activities have no merit - just that I don't believe that is all there is to do. This city also happens to host a first class marathon and the world's largest triathlon - which are both open to everyone with the motivation to do something other than watch. We have a beautiful lakefront packed with people running, biking, playing football & basketball - some of them year round.
As for being a spectator sports fan - I've been going to the Bears games with my dad since I was old enough to ask him to take me and I've lived within 2 blocks of Wrigley for the last 8 years.
If this doesn't clear up the misunderstanding, I don't know what will.
You're STILL missing my point - and I don't why. My statements couldn't be more clear. Try re-reading what I said - 1) I AGREED that Chicago is a great sports town; and 2) My statement that there is even more to do in Chicago than that had absolutely nothing to do with museums or theatres. I'll try again - I disagree that there is nothing to do other than watch our sports teams and eat (your words) - that doesn't mean I'm suggesting that either of those activities have no merit - just that I don't believe that is all there is to do. This city also happens to host a first class marathon and the world's largest triathlon - which are both open to everyone with the motivation to do something other than watch. We have a beautiful lakefront packed with people running, biking, playing football & basketball - some of them year round.
As for being a spectator sports fan - I've been going to the Bears games with my dad since I was old enough to ask him to take me and I've lived within 2 blocks of Wrigley for the last 8 years.
If this doesn't clear up the misunderstanding, I don't know what will.
Oct 25th, 2001, 05:40 PM
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To Holly:
I knew what you meant. I could tell from your post about "overweight, sedentary people" that you are obviously into physical fitness. You seemed to say that people in Chicago or the midwest who are sports fans are a bunch of "overweight, polish sausage eating slobs." Ya, some are but not all, one can eat and enjoy our teams and also be physically fit. Don't forget that about 9 months out of the year its too cold to enjoy the outdoors by running, biking, etc. So whats wrong with cheering on the Bears or Bulls and eating at the same time. Lets let this end here
I knew what you meant. I could tell from your post about "overweight, sedentary people" that you are obviously into physical fitness. You seemed to say that people in Chicago or the midwest who are sports fans are a bunch of "overweight, polish sausage eating slobs." Ya, some are but not all, one can eat and enjoy our teams and also be physically fit. Don't forget that about 9 months out of the year its too cold to enjoy the outdoors by running, biking, etc. So whats wrong with cheering on the Bears or Bulls and eating at the same time. Lets let this end here
Oct 25th, 2001, 06:06 PM
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Last note: I'm actually moving to Florida this summer in order to enjoy the outdoors all year round. I too like to be fit and look forward to improving my physical fitness level. Being more active is one of my plans for when I move. I sometimes make jokes about the white-skinned, flabby midwestern people LOL (no hate mail please) Its kind of funny how some of the posts end up getting off the original subject
Oct 25th, 2001, 06:48 PM
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Sorry Randy- I've seen a lot of Penn State games but have never seen anything thrown but marshmallows. And you base your opinion of Penn State fans on what- one game is it? Gee, I guess if maybe they stopped worrying about actually graduating the players they could be on top again too. Second biggest stadium in the country and they fill it even with a losing team- now those are fans! Besides, find me another school where the coach donated enough to the library to have a wing named after him. (And most PSU graduates can probably even spell "occasional" ;o))
Oct 26th, 2001, 05:05 AM
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I am a HUGE college basketball fan, just can't get into pro its soooooo boring. I went to school at the University of Kentucky adn live3 about 1hr. away now. WE have season tickets for basketballa s they have been passed down in my famiuly for years, thereis almost a 10yr. wait list right now for sesaon tickets!!!! You pretty much have to wait till someone dies and doesn't will them away. Anyway, it is widely known that BIG BLUE fans are fanatical. We are loud sometimes obnoxious but always rowdy adn always following our team. In this part of the country people have UK rooms in their houses and eveybody flys those little CATS flags off their car!!!!!!
Oct 26th, 2001, 05:21 AM
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Hey S,
I am scratching my head over your comment "University of Florida? Have they upgraded the visiting teams' seats from the high school grade open bleachers yet?" Umm, what exactly are you referring to? The stadium there has been a closed bowl for, mmm, about 25 years! Don't know where these open bleachers are supposedly located (your imagination perhaps?!).
I am scratching my head over your comment "University of Florida? Have they upgraded the visiting teams' seats from the high school grade open bleachers yet?" Umm, what exactly are you referring to? The stadium there has been a closed bowl for, mmm, about 25 years! Don't know where these open bleachers are supposedly located (your imagination perhaps?!).
Oct 26th, 2001, 05:25 AM
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Hey Mr. PSU-
Perhaps you were at a different stadium for all of the PSU games so far this year. Did you attend the Michigan/PSU game? Perhaps the game was sold out, but thousands of seats were empty. I am very frustrted by the lack of loyalty of our fans! The same has been true all year. Even if fans show up, they are leaving the games much earlier than I can ever remember (31 years and counting!). The PSU program is living in the past and it has begun to impact attendance. When the seats don't fill, the program's recruiting also suffers. You and I (apparently both PSU alums) both know that Joe Pa needs to retire.
BTW, I'd advise you to avoid getting into an argument with the Michigan fans--they've whipped us on the field for 5 straight years. I have painfully attended all 5. They do the same in academics. Look at this year's US News and World Report issue on colleges and univesities as just one source. OUCH!
Perhaps you were at a different stadium for all of the PSU games so far this year. Did you attend the Michigan/PSU game? Perhaps the game was sold out, but thousands of seats were empty. I am very frustrted by the lack of loyalty of our fans! The same has been true all year. Even if fans show up, they are leaving the games much earlier than I can ever remember (31 years and counting!). The PSU program is living in the past and it has begun to impact attendance. When the seats don't fill, the program's recruiting also suffers. You and I (apparently both PSU alums) both know that Joe Pa needs to retire.
BTW, I'd advise you to avoid getting into an argument with the Michigan fans--they've whipped us on the field for 5 straight years. I have painfully attended all 5. They do the same in academics. Look at this year's US News and World Report issue on colleges and univesities as just one source. OUCH!
Oct 26th, 2001, 06:04 AM
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ALW & PSU,
That is similar to how the Michigan fans acted when it was realized that there was no longer a big 2 & little 8 in the Big 10. Sure they filled the stadium each week, but if they were losing, boy would the stands start emptying early. Sure MSU, UW, Northwestern, Minnesota, etc, didn't always fill the stands but the fans that were there, stayed to the bitter end & then some. Who do you think started the whole thing of the 5th quarter with the bands & fans. It certainly wasn't Michigan. & which Big Ten hockey team left the tough WCHA hockey league because they didn't have a strong enough fan base, & went to, at the time, the weaker CCHA, where they could beat up on weaker teams, & then made them look stronger, which allowed them to actually recruit some stronger players? If you said Michigan, you are right again.
That is similar to how the Michigan fans acted when it was realized that there was no longer a big 2 & little 8 in the Big 10. Sure they filled the stadium each week, but if they were losing, boy would the stands start emptying early. Sure MSU, UW, Northwestern, Minnesota, etc, didn't always fill the stands but the fans that were there, stayed to the bitter end & then some. Who do you think started the whole thing of the 5th quarter with the bands & fans. It certainly wasn't Michigan. & which Big Ten hockey team left the tough WCHA hockey league because they didn't have a strong enough fan base, & went to, at the time, the weaker CCHA, where they could beat up on weaker teams, & then made them look stronger, which allowed them to actually recruit some stronger players? If you said Michigan, you are right again.
Oct 26th, 2001, 11:13 AM
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Have always been (since 1970s and I was a young boy) and still am a fan of "America's Team" The Dallas Cowboys. Definitely not bandwagon look what they've been doing the las t couple of seasons!! at 1-4 on the season, the stadium still acked and not jsut to see the cheerleaders!!!!!!
Oct 26th, 2001, 11:53 AM
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Since I moved to the Boston area, all I hear about is SPORTS! It doesn't matter whether the home town teams are winning or losing, the locals are loyal fans, you name it -- football, baseball, basketball, soccer, and any college sport -- there are loyal fans (and passionate ones too!) up here.
Oct 26th, 2001, 01:22 PM
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I agree with the preceding poster - Boston is probably one of the most passionate sport-addicted cities in the US. The Red Sox, the Bruins, Patriots, Celts - all have been pretty mediocre to rotten in the past decade, but you can hardly get a seat to a game. This is not a fair-weather fan city.
I think sun-belt cities tend to have less dedicated fans. Maybe because so many people in these places (LA, Miami, etc) are from somewhere else and it will take a while to build hometown loyalty. Either that, or people in Miami would rather be at the beach than go to a Dolphins game.
I think sun-belt cities tend to have less dedicated fans. Maybe because so many people in these places (LA, Miami, etc) are from somewhere else and it will take a while to build hometown loyalty. Either that, or people in Miami would rather be at the beach than go to a Dolphins game.
Oct 27th, 2001, 06:43 AM
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Sorry ALW, that's Ms. PSU to you! You're right I haven't been to a football game yet this year. However, a family member has season tickets (and has since the 60's so she's got you beat in the loyalty department). So forget football, there are other sports-my mom and friends go to every women's volleyball and basketball game! Penn State fans are still the best. And if I'm not mistaken, we have the biggest Alumni Association membership in the country!
P.S. No matter what you think of JoePa, he's made the football program, besides doing a lot for the university. He deserves to retire when he's ready.
P.S. No matter what you think of JoePa, he's made the football program, besides doing a lot for the university. He deserves to retire when he's ready.
Oct 28th, 2001, 03:22 PM
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Gotta love my Saints. We are pretty dedicated to our boys in black and gold, through losing seasons, bad coaches, really bad coaches and a season or two of watching games from the inside paper sacks. We get rowdy in the dome, but I like to think that we show visiting teams some form of hospitality. The party in the French Quarter is pretty hard to beat, even if the Saints lose. Come on down and laissez les bon temps roulet!
Oct 28th, 2001, 11:16 PM
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Hands down, the best baseball fans are in St. Louis. They know the game inside and out and will cheer a skillful bunt or hitting behind the runner just as much as a homer. Cubs fans are pretty cool as well. A lot of good natured trash-talking in those STL-CHI series.
Bad Fans - Texas Rangers, (or any Dallas teams)and Atlanta- only fans when winning AND it's "fashionable"
Bad Fans - Texas Rangers, (or any Dallas teams)and Atlanta- only fans when winning AND it's "fashionable"
Oct 29th, 2001, 06:25 AM
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I have to respond to Dan, sorry, I know I joined this late. But I'm from Green Bay and currently live in Jacksonville. The Packers did put Green Bay on the map, who would have even heard of the town otherwise? It's a small town but completely obsessed. The MOST loyal fans, it's practically a cult. There's a familiar story to the town, the day Princess Di passed she got a small section in the newspaper, meanwhile on the front page "ANTONIO FREEMAN SIGNS!" That's loyalty, insanity, but loyalty. Everything's painted green and gold, fire hydrants, police cars, people's fences across the street from the stadium. Packer fans are the best! Many annoy me too I'll admit. Yes I'm partial, but now that I'm in Jacksonville, I even had people stop me in my car and ask me join the Packer club in town. Ask around, there's one in every metro city. Jacksonville Jaguars just don't have spirit the Packers do, probably because they lack history. Jacksonville also doesn't need a football team to put it on the map. On the ocean and a population of 1.3 million doesn't need the NFL to put it on the map.
Oct 29th, 2001, 07:58 AM
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Just to clarify what Ms. PSU said about the Penn State Alumni Association... With more than 146,000 members, we are in fact the largest dues-paying alumni association in the country, which I think is a huge testament to the loyalty of PSU alumni/fans!
