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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 01:04 PM
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Any Manhattan NYC locals care to comment on this location for a rental?

We've already fully and thoroughly explored the subject of illegal rentals in NYC on a previous thread....that being said, wondering how this area is,specifically in regard to safety and ease of public transportation, would love a locals opinion....

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=East+...+York&t=m&z=16

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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 01:14 PM
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I would call this a good location. I don't know the building, but I would call the location good. It is certainly very safe.

I like it because you can walk from there to sights and eating spots in the East Village, Lower East Side, Soho, Chinatown, Little Italy, newly chic Bowery, and even West Village.

You've got the First AVenue bus, which has an express stop 2 blocks south. And both the F train and the IRT located within a 5 minute walk.

Having said that, I would not recommend the area that highly for an elderly relative who wanted to concentrate on the big name museums and traditional restaurants. But I don't think you are in that category!

If you decide to take it, we will inundate you with restaurants ideas!
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 01:59 PM
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I live near to there but would have to see the exact building. The best neighborhood in the city for value restaurants.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 02:17 PM
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I live in the neighborhood and would also like to know the exact address. Some buildings in that area are better than others.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 04:35 PM
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The area is trendy/funky - not traditional. Lots of restaurants and clubs - expect it to be busy/active/noisy in the evening. (That's the area - don;t know the specific building. There are some in the area that are not great.)

I would get the exact street address and use google earth to check out the building. Do you have a 24 hour landline in case there is a problem, Have you been given references?
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 06:25 PM
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It's directly next to this building http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:He...st_Village.jpg
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 06:47 PM
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The block and buildings look fine, bur I would guess it is a sure things that in one of these buildings any short-term rental would be an illegal sublet so many have mentioned. Your choice.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:04 PM
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The other option is 3rd street and Avenue B http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3rd+st...gl=us&t=m&z=16
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:53 PM
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Once again the second location depends on the building.

And if it is next to the Hell's Angels "clubhouse" try not to knock over their bikes. That block is much quieter than when the Angels were in their hey day.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 08:33 PM
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I was wondering about that, whether or not it was a good idea to have my child stay next door to the hell's angels club house. Both apartments in that building said there's no trouble, but I'm still leery.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2012, 08:48 PM
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This is where we ended up, 3rd and Ave B. It's not a lovely tree lined street as I had hoped for, but apparently a budget of $280 a night does not afford lovely leafyness. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42+Ave...h&z=19&layer=t
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 03:05 AM
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Is that the East Village Suites? My only concern here is that all the reviewers only have one review posted to their names on TA.

What happened to the one on First Avenue and 3rd Street?
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 03:59 AM
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No - heading into high season does not get lovely anything for a suite with such a low budget.

Even the hotels with the suites at the $350 per night are no lovely tree-lined streets. In fact, in NYC only residential side streets are lovely tree-lined - the avenues (main north/south street which have most hotels are much busier, lined with shops and restaurants.

I live on a lovely tree-lined street - but it is residential buildings only - with the exception of a small nursery school in a brownstone. I think you were looking for something that doesn't exist.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 04:11 AM
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Have you committed to that place? If not, there seem to be a number well-reviewed rentals in Harlem brownstones that might be available. (As I mentioned on another thread, my friends' place is booked through the end of the year, but I did see others in that area...just a thought)



I also know a woman who runs a B&B on Horatio Street. (Well, she iso a very good friend of very good friends of mine and I've met her 5 or 6 times socially) The street would probably fulfill your wishes, as it is a very desirable tree-liined block in the West Village.

Beyond that, I can't tell you much, but she has owned this house for decades and has rented rooms for almost that long. The owner lives in the house and owns the building, and she has many repeat guests.


http://www.roomstolet.net/


http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev..._New_York.html

Do let me know if you decide to contact her.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 05:28 AM
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As locations go (for a tourist), it's not really good but it's also not really bad. It's relatively inconvenient to public transportation since the only train you can easily reach is the F, but there are loads of good restaurants and stores nearby, and it's a trendy (if still gritty and hectic) neighborhood).

The area can be fairly loud on weekend nights because it's close to a lot of bars and clubs and late-night hangouts. This is a neighborhood I'd have recommended to a young single person, not to a young family. But there should be a grocery store relatively close by (or you can go to the Essex Street Market). It's kind of a schlep, but there's an excellent Whole Foods on Houston Street a 15-minute walk away on Chrystie Street, and you're not too far from the Donut Plant (the original) if that matters to you.

Since you are staying here, definitely look into the Tenement Museum.

But your other location would have been much more convenient.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 06:57 AM
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We are a couple with no kids and we'd never stay at that location. "Alphabet City" is th ebastion of young hip people but still not as friendly or safe as I want to have when on vacation.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 09:39 AM
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I think the area is perfectly safe - but can be somewhat noisy at night - until clubs close at 2 am. And it's not a tiny tot vibe - although I'm sure there are some that live there.

Frankly, with a small child I would be looking at the upper west side - proximity to central park playgrounds and zoo etc. Plus a lot of family friendly restaurants.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 11:32 AM
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There is almost something going on the neighborhood especially between Thursday night and Sunday about 4 AM. On Friday and Staurday nights it is hard to get cabs and parking spots at 2 AM.

Statisically the crime in the neighborhood is in the housing projects a few blocks away but even Avenue C has become a crowded bar and restuarant scene.

The neighborhood has changed dramatically. Tompkins Square Park was once a haven for drug dealers and squatters is now filled with families and kids playing.

The neighborhood is filled with kids who have just moved to the City. Around September the area is filled with daughters and their visiting mothers who have dilated pupils as their kids explain why they moved there. It still has a gritty look to it.

It is an eclectic area with a large Latino population, the remnants of an eastern European community, would be artists, writers, actors, and musicians, and working artists, writers, actors, and musicians. There is a large transient population of kids who live there as their first stop. One large group right now is young Japanese women who have come here to escape the patriarchal society.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 12:31 PM
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Am I committed, yes and no. I took the advice of NYtraveler and booked something while I look. I had to put one nights deposit down, I can cancel up until Sept 27 with no penalty. I am still looking as I put out feelers to a bunch of other places, but so far nothing has fit the bill. Yes it's the East Village Suites, I didn't notice that on trip advisor, I'll have to check it out.

It's a fall back if nothing else works out.

One that I think I like quite a lot is on e 13th and 3rd ave. It's quite a good deal, just not sure about the neighborhood.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2012, 12:44 PM
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Would it help to be closer to union square as far as transportation goes?
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