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All of California Issued "Stay at Home" Directive

Old May 29th, 2020, 12:12 PM
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Gorgeous photo.
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Old Jun 2nd, 2020, 07:17 AM
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That photo is gorgeous. And I'm sad we won't see it. Yet. My husband asked if we really should be going anywhere for 1 night. He wondered whether there would be a lot of out of state and international travelers there now that there's a partial opening of the State. I didn't think so.
I am only basing my assumption on the fact that there doesn't appear to be a lot of interest in travel and tourism, at least in Los Angeles, when nothing is really open yet.

Have you seen any resumption of tourism where you are?
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Old Jun 2nd, 2020, 07:35 AM
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Just from looters, (Long Beach). Although I don't really believe the Police Chief that they were all from out of town.
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Old Jun 2nd, 2020, 12:51 PM
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I sure wish they would open up the nail salons.My toenails are beginning to protest.
Every time I have gotten a mani or pedi or both, the technician was always wearing a mask.
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Opolo and Calcareous are open by appointment and you must purchase food. Niner will reopen June 10, also by appointment. Sensorio will reopen June 12.
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Carmel beach was insane over Memorial Day weekend but I think that was partially due to the heat wave and also because Santa Cruz County beaches were closed from 11am to 5pm. Mostly day trippers from the Bay Area and Central Valley as our hotels still can't accept non-essential guests. We've had a small trickle of international tourists since SIP started. I don't know where they were staying but the county didn't really start enforcing the overnight guest rule until later. Restaurants were allowed to reopen for dine in this past Saturday and Big Sur parks are starting to reopen so I think things will pick up but maybe not to normal summer levels. No date has been given for hotel stays so several properties have pushed back their reopening to mid-June or July. I wish they'd reopen beach parking cause people are coming anyway and just parking in the neighborhoods. It makes no sense to keep parking closed at this point as it's causing more problems than it solves.

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Old Jun 3rd, 2020, 05:44 AM
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"Just from looters, (Long Beach). Although I don't really believe the Police Chief that they were all from out of town."

Maybe not from out of town but NOT peaceful protesters who son't care about the problem being protested. Just opportunists who are thugs anyway.

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Old Jun 3rd, 2020, 07:05 AM
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We live in Sacramento. While I dream that we could maybe escape to a beach city for a few nights at the end of July, it is still just a conversation. While I would not mind bringing our food for a weekend, I also think if we cannot sit on a deck somewhere and eat seafood and have a glass of wine, our comfort zone mind you, we will not do this. Watching how things unfold.
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Old Jun 3rd, 2020, 09:39 AM
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Beaches are open for passive recreation, in most counties. On Memorial Day weekend there were added closures of parking lots, etc. And now we have curfews. Probably better to visit during the week when it's been less crowded.

I think the authorities are worried about a spike in cases from the lack of social distancing and masks of some of the protestors, on top of the added public contact from opening of businesses. So yes, stay tuned.

PS, the local looters already wear masks (to hide their identity) for the most part.





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Old Jun 3rd, 2020, 04:18 PM
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I'm confused about California and Oregon, and I can't seem to find the information online, so if anybody knows the answers to my questions, I'd really appreciate it.

This is my question: if somebody over the age of 65 has access to a second home in Oregon and he can get there in one day (i.e., no need for lodging on the way), can he go? (No, I don't have a second home in Oregon...or anywhere else, for that matter! But I might have access to somebody's second home.)
I thought we (Californians) aren't allowed to travel other than for absolute necessity.
I thought that if we do have to travel, even within the USA, we have to quarantine for 14 days before interacting with residents.
I hope I'm wrong. I'd really love to be wrong, in fact.
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Old Jun 3rd, 2020, 04:35 PM
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And another question: if I were to travel to Oregon, can I visit national parks there?
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Old Jun 3rd, 2020, 04:52 PM
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LucieV, you have to look at whatever restrictions there are in your home county, plus California, plus Oregon. Here are links to California's and Oregon's COVID information.


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You can travel for urgent matters or if such travel is essential to your permitted work. Non-essential travel for vacations or pleasure should be avoided. This is to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

https://covid19.ca.gov/

https://traveloregon.com/travel-alerts/

For National Parks, you need to look at the web site for each park.

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Old Jun 3rd, 2020, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LucieV
I'm confused about California and Oregon, and I can't seem to find the information online, so if anybody knows the answers to my questions, I'd really appreciate it.

This is my question: if somebody over the age of 65 has access to a second home in Oregon and he can get there in one day (i.e., no need for lodging on the way), can he go? (No, I don't have a second home in Oregon...or anywhere else, for that matter! But I might have access to somebody's second home.)
I thought we (Californians) aren't allowed to travel other than for absolute necessity.
I thought that if we do have to travel, even within the USA, we have to quarantine for 14 days before interacting with residents.
I hope I'm wrong. I'd really love to be wrong, in fact.
We have been incredibly lucky (so far) in Oregon with the Covid-19. In the past 10 weeks there have been about 130 deaths which is less than some states had in 1 day at their peak. No one seems to be enforcing any quarantine in Central Oregon. Crater Lake is the only National Park in Oregon. We have several National Monuments and we also have the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area.
Several Oregon State Parks have opened for limited use.
I'm not sure when (or if) the Crater Lake Lodge will open for lodging. It is quite likely that there is still snow blocking some of the roads in the park.
If you didn't want to drive, you could take the Amtrak Coast Starlight north into Oregon. The train leaves Los Angeles daily and is in Sacramento about midnight and is in Klamath Falls Oregon about 8AM.
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Old Jun 3rd, 2020, 09:20 PM
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Thank you, Barbara and tomfuller. I'm not the one who's taking a trip (though I'd like to be!)

You can travel for urgent matters or if such travel is essential to your permitted work. Non-essential travel for vacations or pleasure should be avoided. This is to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

That's the guideline that seems to be ... well ... interpreted differently by each person, depending upon his/her needs. Apparently a lot of people in California have decided that they're entitled to "travel for vacations or pleasure" despite the governmental request that it be avoided. (Obviously, these are people who are financially comfortable and accustomed to justifying their taking exception to rules that others are expected to follow.)

ETA: I just found out that, after driving from California to Oregon, the people in question are also planning to drive to Montana to visit Glacier NP. They are driving one of those rv things. Yes, I'm jealous. Confused, too, though.

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Old Jun 4th, 2020, 06:16 AM
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Several more Forest Service campgrounds in Oregon are opening tomorrow. More are expected to open by July 4. I do have friends that own a big motor home and another vehicle that will have a job as campground hosts in Oregon later this summer. That could be considered as work related and not a vacation. Sign on to the Crater Lake NP website to check on current conditions and when either of the campgrounds will open.
If you plan to camp anywhere in Oregon this summer, plan on bringing all the water you plan to use. Crews are taking down hazard trees and otherwise making campgrounds as safe as possible but not working on water systems

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Old Jun 4th, 2020, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LucieV
I'm confused about California and Oregon, and I can't seem to find the information online, so if anybody knows the answers to my questions, I'd really appreciate it.

This is my question: if somebody over the age of 65 has access to a second home in Oregon and he can get there in one day (i.e., no need for lodging on the way), can he go? (No, I don't have a second home in Oregon...or anywhere else, for that matter! But I might have access to somebody's second home.)
I thought we (Californians) aren't allowed to travel other than for absolute necessity.
I thought that if we do have to travel, even within the USA, we have to quarantine for 14 days before interacting with residents.
I hope I'm wrong. I'd really love to be wrong, in fact.
There are a few states that require (d) quarantine but Montana dropped theirs and neither CA nor OR ever had one.
You can find some compilations on line, although rules seem to be changing nearly daily, so searching state by state is better.

Finding a place to overnight is probably the harder bit.

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Old Jun 4th, 2020, 08:26 AM
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Thank you, mlgb. I understand about the quarantine.

What I still don't understand is how one determines whether one's road trip is considered essential. (See my post #174)

I.e., if everybody in California who wants to take a road trip decides that their trip is essential and/or that "nobody's going to care because we're harmless," it seems kind of like saying "Precautions and governmental advisement are for other people, not for me, and I'll do what I want to do." I don't quite get it. Do I need to forego travel and abide by the guidelines or am I somehow exceptional?
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Old Jun 4th, 2020, 08:26 AM
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{somebody over the age of 65 has access to a second home in Oregon and he can get there in one day ... can he go?}

Yes.
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Old Jun 4th, 2020, 08:40 AM
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Yes, I get that, suze.
My question now is whether or not, as a Californian, we are entitled to travel without its being "essential"? And/or, how is "essential travel" defined by Governor Newsom?
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I dream of returning to Glendeven Inn, near Mendocino, CA, but then I think about the distance to a major hospital and put the dream aside,
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