About that over head space in the airplane...

Jul 25th, 2006, 11:17 AM
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LOL, neopolitan!
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Jul 25th, 2006, 11:17 AM
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Well, this seems to have become a ranting site for some. Too bad! I will continue to carry on my rolling bag--not because I really want to but for many of the reasons already mentioned. Hope I never run into rude people who don't like carry on bags with wheels or who are prejudiced against older or disabled folks. Most of us will become older or weaker in time.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 11:18 AM
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LOL!

Well then I suppose we wouldn't see Gekko helping someone grab their luggage off the carousel? Surely one wouldn't suggest waiting for a Skycap to help with this chore? - no one would ever leave the airport, lol. I believe there are many more kind and helpful people than the rude. Foolish perhaps, but I won't give up on that belief.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 11:30 AM
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I don't want to keep this alive, but I am hesitant to do too much moving around of OP's items already stowed in an overhead bin, because I never know what they contain, or just how fragile they might be. The transparent bag of t-shirts might be an exception. As an example, I use a high end CPAP machine for my sleep apnea and it travels in a heavy duty balistic nylon bag. The mask is plastic and while sturdy is still breakable. All together it would cost me something like $1,800 to replace the thing. On the outside it looks like a square nylon backpack. I would probably have a stroke if I saw somebody cramming a wheeled carry-on next to it, trying wih all their might to get it to fit. This can all be corrected if people use some discretion with what they carry on, and use the bins closest to their seat.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 11:45 AM
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Oh my, I've seemingly offended the Fodor's Unofficial & Cranky Geriatric Defense League (FUCGDL).

Not my intention.

I'd suggest that the vast majority of travelers would agree with me -- if you can't lift your "carry-on" and it won't fit under your seat, CHECK IT.

Contrary to your selfish beliefs, your time is not more precious than the people's waiting behind you, and you're not oh-so-important that you can't wait for checked luggage.

(Speaking of rude, selfish people who roll massive "carry-ons," such behavior can result in an over-weighted plane and the bumping of passengers or checked baggage. So the selfish rudeness can be a double-slap in the face of decency and common courtesy.)
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Jul 25th, 2006, 11:49 AM
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An over-weighted plane? I didn't know that could happen. Again, people requiring extra assistance should just board early. They can also wait until everyone else deplanes to receive the same assistance.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 11:56 AM
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I agree with the pre-boarding, certainly.

And, yes, over-weighted planes can happen. It happened to me, Delta flight from Aruba to New York. The plane was over weight. One passenger and quite a bit of checked luggage was removed, including one of my friends' suitcases. The overhead bins were stuffed with large "carry-ons" and a flight attendant commented on how rude it is for passengers not to check big rollers.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:09 PM
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I still don't get this point. What do the rollers have to do with the rudeness? A big suitcase is a big suitcase, whether it has rollers or not. Period. The restrictions should be by size and possibly weight -- not because it has rollers. Anyone who seems to think the rollers added to a carry-on sized suitcase makes any real difference needs to study them more closely.

And regardless what anyone tries to defend, I still say it is absurd to suggest that young and physically healthy should be allowed to carryon bigger bags than those who aren't. I have helped dozens of people lift their bags in and out of the bins. I'd never think to suggest "you're too old, if you can't lift it, you shouldn't have brought it with you, even if your life-saving prescriptions and equipment are in it." How silly.
 
Jul 25th, 2006, 12:14 PM
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As a frequent traveler, I have learned the hard way, the art of packing light.

My DH and I not travel carry on only when possible. We bring 2 regulation size suitcases (don't know the exact dimensions but they are the size allowable by the airline) 2 shoulder bags, my purse and a laptop bag. This is the max allowed carry on by the airlines. We have no troouble putting our bags in the overhead, but if we did that is what the Attendants are for. It is their job to help people lift their stuff in and out fo the overhead bins...actually it is a requirement of the job to be able to lift 50 lbs over their head. That is also why they have pre-boarding and then start boarding 30 min before a flight. As annoying as it may be not everyone is travel saavy, reads Fodors, is quick moving or as strong as they used to be or has any common sense. However they are still entitled to carry on as much as the airline allows. Also..not many people know this, but the stuff you buy in the airport does not count as carry on bags so you can cary on the max allowable baggage and still bring on additional shopping bags. I found this out last year when shopping at the Lush store at MCO airport. I can't stand having to wait for luggage, espically when it's real alte and it's been a long flight.

to cmeyer54, I would have done like the other posters, move the shirts, put your bag in and put the shirts on top and slammed the bin shut! it's no big deal, it's sounds like you did not want to be rude but it's ok to shuffel stuff around.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:19 PM
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I think it's just that rollers are the most visible offenders.

And the argument about the weak/infirm being limited to checked luggage is starting to smell a lot like the "children should not be allowed to fly w/ ME." argument. Gekko, have you been over at the airline board lately?

Folks- seriously, it's public transportation. None of you business how others pack/look/act! (unless it constitutes as a danger to your well being- and Gekko, usage of rollers does NOT count)
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:24 PM
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I have no specific problem with rolling bags ... but it's rollers that people stuff full with no knowledge of their weight. They don't know and don't care.

If you can't carry it or put it under your seat, check it.

And stop your selfish whining, for god's sake. It's pitiful.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:24 PM
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BUT, it becomes your business, when they slow down the plane.
Personally I dont think anyone should bring carry-on except for a purse/briefcase. And I agree that if you can't lift your bag - youve overpacked. (I will make exception for those with an actual physical handicap - though that does not include plain- obesity).
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:27 PM
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<Most of us will become older ... in time>

Beats the alternative ;-)
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:29 PM
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Annabel, the having to lift 50 pounds overhead has nothing to do with carryon luggage and it is not one of the FAs job requirements to stow overhead luggage.

The 50 pound requirement is for emergencies.

 
Jul 25th, 2006, 12:30 PM
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Slow down the plane? Ummm...I think bad weather delays are more of a concern.

And it's not just plane "lifting your bag"- overhead bins can be difficult for people to reach (elderly, strained muscle, child, whatever)
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:35 PM
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"And stop your selfish whining, for god's sake. It's pitiful."

At last! An intelligent post. Now let's see if we can figure out who's doing the selfish whining.
 
Jul 25th, 2006, 12:36 PM
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sorry- PLAIN.

lol, suze!

FAs, correct me if I'm wrong, are there, at least partly, to make the trip better/aid the passengers.

And everyone's overpacked at least once And if you haven't....you've never traveled or you've been extremely lucky.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:37 PM
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But why not just CHECK IT? If you strained a muscle , or if youre old - why not just check your bag? Why do you NEED a 50lb bag sitting inside the airplane - which you can't get to anyway unless some poor sucker wrestles it out of the bin for you?
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:37 PM
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Annabel makes a good point - people are entitled to bring on as much as the airline allows. Security or the gate attendant can stop people and ask them to check bags if they are too large.

Moose also makes a good point. I'm 5'1", and sometimes it can be difficult for me to reach my belongings in the overhead storage bin. This has nothing to do with weight, it can happen if my belongings get pushed to the back of the storage bin.
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Jul 25th, 2006, 12:42 PM
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Stevie-Because, you see, I prefer clean underwear in case my checked luggage is lost. And I refuse to check my camera/laptop. And sometimes it's the only way to get everything on the plane....

Oh, and I'm not going to check my 11 yo. sister's carryon b/c she's too short to reach the overhead bins!

(now, just apply this reasoning to others)
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