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Old Jan 11th, 2026 | 07:35 PM
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Trip Report and Photos: The Cao Bang Loop was Incredible - Why I Skip Ha Giang Now

Recently I completed the Cao Bang Loop again. To be honest, it is the only place in the North where I still feel the raw magic of the "real" Vietnam from a decade ago. I have ridden the Ha Giang Loop countless times, watching it go from a hidden gem to a crowded tourist scene. The feeling of getting stuck in traffic on the pass made me realize something. Cao Bang is now the superior choice for travelers who actually want to connect with the country rather than just drive through it.

I wrote this to give back to thefor all the info over the years. I want to share a no-filter local perspective to help you plan for 2026.

Riding across one of the narrower sections of the Cao Bang Loop
Riding across one of the narrower sections of the Cao Bang Loop

In short, it was one of the most serene experiences of my life. Here is the detailed, honest review.Local life in Cao Bang
Local life in Cao Bang
Local Tay ethnic home in Cao Bang
Local Tay ethnic home in Cao Bang
Outstanding Natural Beauty in Cao Bang, it was so much to take in.
Outstanding Natural Beauty in Cao Bang, it was so much to take in.Tips to Prepare for the Cao Bang Loop
  • The Weather is a Mood Swing We experienced every season in a single day on this loop. Down in the valley at the waterfalls, it was sunny and humid enough to get sunburned. But just 30 minutes later, up on the Ma Phuc Pass, the fog was so thick that visibility was less than two meters. It was freezing cold. My advice is to buy proper gear in Hanoi before you leave. Pack layers, a warm jacket, and most importantly shoes with good grip. The caves here are slippery beasts and they don't care about your fashion sneakers.
  • Don’t Ride (Yourself) Unless You’re Experienced Riding the Cao Bang Loop yourself gives you freedom. But I will be blunt. This is not the place to learn. Unlike the tourist loops in Ha Giang, highways QL3 and QL4A are major logistics arteries. You will be sharing the road with massive container trucks heading to the Chinese border. They drive fast and take up the whole lane on blind bends. If you aren't 100% confident, look at booking a ‘Private Car’ or an ‘Easy-Rider’ tour. You get the same insane views, but you actually survive to show the photos.
  • Road Conditions: Mixed Bag The road quality here is a chaotic mix. The main roads are paved and smooth. But the roads to the best spots, like the hidden villages or the shortcut to God's Eye Mountain, are completely off-road. We are talking about dirt tracks, loose gravel, and slippery mud after rain. You will need a geared bike to safely handle the steep terrain and the sudden potholes.
  • The Cao Bang Loop is not a Race Choose a suitable bike, prepare yourself in advance and take it slow. Keep your wits about you, use your horn on every blind bend. And if a truck wants to overtake you? Let them. The Cao Bang Loop is not a race. Don’t underestimate how remote this place can be. If you break down here, you are miles from a mechanic and in big trouble.
  • Do You Need a Border Permit? (Important) There is a lot of conflicting information about this online. Here is the truth. There are strict police checkpoints at Ban Gioc Waterfall and the border zones. You NEED a Border Permit to visit them. If you are on a tour with a registered agency like us, the guide handles this paper for you while you drink coffee. If you are solo, you must go to the Immigration Office in Cao Bang City to buy it yourself. Do not skip this, or you will be turned away at the entrance.
  • How Much Did It Cost? (Money, Money) You get what you pay for. Excluding transport from Hanoi, it depends on your style. If you go the backpacker route on a rental bike, you can do it for about 3,000,000₫ ($120). We opted for a higher-end experience with a private car and boutique homestays. It cost more, but the value was incredible. That included permit fees, bamboo rafting tickets, endless food (the smoked sausage is amazing), and sleeping in a historic stone castle. The cost breakdown is here.
The child in Phia Thap incense village
The child in Phia Thap incense village
Mount Eye of God
Mount Eye of God
cuisine in Cao Bang
cuisine in Cao Bang
We spent the first night in the village
We spent the first night in the village
The village where incense is lit
The village where incense is lit
Dia Tren Paper Village
Dia Tren Paper Village

Our Itinerary For The Cao Bang Loop (The Real Deal)
Day 1: Ma Phuc Pass - Phong Nam Valley - Ban Gioc Waterfall - Khuoi Ky Village (115km)

We started with a dramatic climb up the Ma Phuc Pass. But before hitting the main waterfall, our guide took us on a detour to Phong Nam Valley. Trust me, do not skip this. It felt like a fairyland with endless rice paddies and limestone peaks, completely untouched by tourism. We made sure to arrive at Ban Gioc Waterfall around 2:00 PM when the dam opened. The water volume doubled and roared like thunder. For the best view, we hiked up to the Truc Lam Pagoda. Hearing the temple bell ring while looking across the river at China was a surprisingly spiritual moment. The Stay: We slept in Khuoi Ky Village. The stilt houses are 400 years old and made entirely of stone. It felt like sleeping in a fortress.

Day 2: Nguom Ngao Cave - Craft Villages - God’s Eye Mountain (85km)

This day was about vanishing arts. We explored Nguom Ngao Cave before visiting the Nung An craft villages. We saw blacksmiths forging knives, but the most impactful stop was Dia Tren, a tiny paper-making village hidden in the hills. We learned that only three families are left practicing this ancient art. Buying a handmade notebook from the grandmother there felt like we were helping keep a dying tradition alive. The Highlight: We ended the day at God’s Eye Mountain (Nui Mat Than). Imagine a valley that looks like Mongolia with a mountain that has a giant hole punched right through it. We had a picnic there with zero other tourists. Pure peace.

Day 3: Pac Bo Cave - Khau Coc Cha Pass - Bao Lac - Black Lolo Village (140km)

This is where things got rough and steep. We visited Pac Bo Cave where the water is an insane shade of blue, then headed West to the Khau Coc Cha Pass. It is an engineering marvel with 14 sharp hairpin turns carved vertically into the cliff. We hiked 40 minutes up a dirt trail to see the "snake" road from above. But the real surprise was Bao Lac. We took a detour up to a hidden village of the Black Lolo people. Unlike other tribes, they wear striking black outfits and live high in the mountains. Sharing tea in their wooden stilt house felt like stepping back in time.

Must-See Places on the Cao Bang Loop
  • Ban Gioc Waterfall (Go at 2 PM!)
  • God’s Eye Mountain (The picnic spot)
  • Khuoi Ky Stone Village (Living museum)
  • Dia Tren Paper Village (Only 3 families left)
  • Khau Coc Cha Pass (The 14-tier beast)
  • Bao Lac (Black Lolo culture)
  • Pac Bo Historical Site (Lenin Stream)
Is it Worth Doing the Cao Bang Loop?
As someone who lives and breathes Vietnam travel, my answer is Absolutely. Ha Giang is the adrenaline. Cao Bang is the therapy. It takes you to some of the most remote and beautiful parts of Vietnam. It offers the same majestic limestone peaks but adds a layer of cultural depth and silence that Ha Giang has lost.

Riding the Loop will give you an insight into local life that you cannot get anywhere else. It is a wild ride, filled with ups and downs, both literally and emotionally. You will experience more in three days on the Cao Bang Loop than you would in a month in the cities. If you want the real Vietnam, this is it.
The road leading to the Dìa Trên paper-making village.
The road leading to the Dìa Trên paper-making village.
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Old Jan 11th, 2026 | 07:58 PM
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Looks wonderful. Thank you so much for the storytelling and the pictures. Did you have both a guide and a driver? Or was it the same person? What were your dates?

Looking forward to hearing more about how you booked this, plus it woudl be interesting to know about the final cost of doing the loop like this.
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