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Old Oct 25th, 2025 | 11:26 AM
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What does the Swiss travel pass not include when you are in the Bernese Oberland?

We will be in Switzerland for 15 days and have found the various passes extremely confusing. If we purchase the Swiss travel pass, what will not be included while we are in the Bernice Oberland?
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Old Oct 26th, 2025 | 12:17 AM
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We used a very expensive, but to us more efficient, Flex Pass and we still had to pony up big bucks ($$$) to get to a couple must-see sites, sometimes several hundred dollars for the two of us. There are railways operated by other companies who do not recognize the Swiss rail passes so you gotta pay. Maybe Zermatt for example? The price is a bit shocking if you don't do your research, and irritating if you spend several hundred $$$ on a pass that you think covers everything. To get the rest of the way you have to pay, so you either do it and proceed...or don't and go back down the mountain. Of course, you pay. Others can be more specific but do research on specific sites and routes. I think we got jammed at least twice. We found a first class Flex pass served us best we just walked on and off at will and did not mess with the confusing, mysterious and multiple cards discounts and options. If you live there you "get it" if you don't or aren't an analytical, it's baffling. Load the SBB app it is very good. Check Rome2Rio in for a specific route. Good luck. You will spend more in Switzerland than you think, for many reasons. But worth it.
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Old Oct 26th, 2025 | 02:24 AM
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I suggest you also look at the half fare card and decide which suits you best.
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Old Oct 26th, 2025 | 02:48 AM
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The Swiss Travel Pass includes all train, tramway, bus, boat, rope railway and some cableway lines within Switzerland and Liechtenstein
as well as the international connections

Lausanne - Evian (boat)
Fleurier - Pontarlier (bus)
Basel SBB - airport (bus)
Brig - Domodossola - Locarno (train)
Brig - Simplon Pass - Domodossola (bus)
Stein am Rhein - Singen (bus)
Schaffhausen - Buesingen - Randegg - Ramsen (bus)
Buchs SG - Feldkirch (bus only)
Scuol - Martina - Landeck (bus)
Scuol - Martina - Mals (bus)
Zernez - Sta Maria - Mals (bus)
Zernez - Livigno - Bernina/Poschiavo
Sta Maria - Stelvio - Tirano (direct bus only)
Tirano - Lugano (direct bus only)
St. Moritz - Chiavenna - Lugano (direct bus only)
Spluegen - Chiavenna (direct bus only)
Lugano - Porto Ceresio - Lavena Ponte Tresa (boat)
Lugano - Porlezza (boat)
Lugano - Campione (bus and boat)
Ponte Tresa - Luino (bus)

EXCEPTIONS

Half Fare only:
Caux - Rochers de Naye (cog wheel railway)
Villars - Betaye and Roc d'Orsay (cog wheel railway/cableway)
Pillon Pass - Diablerets Glacier (cableway)
cableways of Gstaad, Zweisimmen and Lenk
Erlenbach - Stockhorn (cableway)
Muelenen - Niesen (rope railway)
Kandersteg - Sunnbuehl and Oeschinen (cableways)
Leukerbad - Gemmi and Rinderhorn (cableways)
Beatenberg - Niederhorn (cableway)
Interlaken - Harder (rope railway)
Wilderswil Schynige Platte (cog wheel railway)
cableways of Muerren, Wengen and Grindelwald
Grindelwald - Grosse Scheidegg - Schwarzwaldalp (bus)
Brienz - Brienzer Rothorn - Soerenberg (steam cog wheel railway and cableway)
Alpnachstad - Pilatus - Kriens (cog wheel railway and cableway)
Stoeckalp - Melchsee (cableway)
Engelberg - Titlis/Jochpass (rope railway and cableways)
Meiringen - Hasliberg (cableway)
Fuergangen - Bellwald (cableway)
Fiesch - Fiescheralp - Egggishorn (cableway)
Betten - Bettmeralp (cableways)
Moerel - Riederalp (cableways)
all cableways of Saas Fee, Saas Grund, Graechen and Zermatt (except legs in Italy)
Locarno - Orselina - Cardada - Cimetta (rope railway and cableways)
Pino - Luino (railway)
Capolago - Monte Generoso (rope railway)
Silvaplana - Corvatsch (cableway)
Mals - Meran (railway)
Scuol - Motta Naluns (cableway)
Bad Ragaz and Wangs - Pizol (cableways)
Unterterzen - Flumserbeg - Maschgenkamm (cableways)
Unterwasser - Iltios - Maschgenkamm (rope railway and cableway)
Schwaegalp - Saentis (cableway)
Jakobsbad - Kronberg (cableway)
Rorschach - Lindau (boat only)
Romanshorn - Friedrichshafen (car and passenger ferry only)
Greifensee (boat)
Oberdorf SO - Weissenstein

25 per cent reduction:
Wengen and Grindelwald - Jungfraujoch

No reduction:
Martigny - Aosta (direcrt bus)
Lugano - Porlezza (Italian bus)
Lac des Brenets (boat)
Lac de Joux (boat)
Neuhausen - Rhin Falls (boat)
Rhin Falls - Eglisau (boat)
Basel - Rheinfelden (boat)
Walensee (boat)
Lej da Segl (boat)
all (there are more than 100) gondolas not mentioned above, except those connecting villages inhabeted all the year round like Iserables, Unterbaech, Eischoll, Jeizinen, Staldenried, Gspon, Champex d'Alesse and some places on Rigi mountain.

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Old Nov 20th, 2025 | 12:03 AM
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The glaring omission from the STP in the Oberland is the lack of 50% discount on the trains and cable car to and from the Jungfraujoch. From Wengen or Grindelwald on to the top the STP only provides a 25% difference. (Half Fare card is 50%). However no matter what the STP is the most expensive way to travel here. Some like it for the freedom to just hop on / off trains at will. But it has a big cost!

In the Oberland the Berner Oberland pass might be a good idea if you do not plan to spend a lot of time in the mountains. But probably the best pass to get if you will be located in the immediate Jungfrau region and plan to hike etc is the Jungfrau pass. Here is a link -
​​​​​​https://www.jungfrau.ch/de-ch/jungfr...d1zS2vtDOcQ3ph
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Old Nov 20th, 2025 | 01:34 AM
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"Bernice Oberland" -- Bernice is a beautiful lady and I'm sure you will enjoy seeing her.

Just one quick question: where are you staying? In some parts of the BO, you might be eligible for a visitor card, which includes free access to local transport. We will be using that for local travel while staying at the Hotel Ermitage in Schoenried this winter as our stay includes the Gstaad (digital) Card. https://www.gstaad.ch/en/summer/plan...sked-questions
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Old Nov 20th, 2025 | 03:13 AM
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If you’re in the Bernese Oberland with a Swiss Travel Pass, most regular trains, buses, and boats are fully covered — but major mountain excursions are not. The pass usually gives only 25–50% discounts on high-altitude trips such as:

Jungfraujoch – Top of Europe
Schilthorn (Piz Gloria)
Grindelwald First
Männlichen cable car
Harder Kulm
❌ Small private lifts (Mürren, Wengen, Adelboden, etc.)

Everything else — like Interlaken to Lauterbrunnen, Wengen, Grindelwald, and Brienz — is fully included.
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Old Nov 20th, 2025 | 03:39 AM
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Have you checked the fare card?
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Old Nov 20th, 2025 | 07:44 AM
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Do dig deeper into the specific routes you want to take and the provisions of your card. The extra cost can really add up, especially if you have a family and go to the most popular or boutique locations as listed in earlier posts. On our first trip we were broadly aware of the added cost but when you are at the station and reality hits it can be a bit shocking. Hey, everything is supposed to be covered!! Well, kinda. Do the math to help guide your decision.
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Old Nov 20th, 2025 | 11:20 PM
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We spent three weeks in Switzerland last year and decided against the Swiss Travel Pass and don't regret that decision.

We were in St. Moritz, Zermatt, Wengen and Montreux. We used the Half Fare Card for everywhere, free transport in St. Moritz to the mountains, and the Berner Oberland pass for our week in Wengen.

Just be aware that the BO pass has changed since we were there though.

I spend far too many hours with a spread sheet working it all out but we saved many hundreds of Australian dollars by doing so.

One of the best buys for long trips was the Saver Day Pass. It works like the Swiss Pass, but just for one day. Bought six months in advance they can be very affordable and they are half price with the Half Fare card too.
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Old Nov 21st, 2025 | 12:08 AM
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The Swiss passes are certainly difficult to figure out without knowing pretty much what you want to do. We bought the half price pass and used it for trains from Zurich to Luzern, trains around Geneva and Montreux, and the train from Montreux to Zurich.We bought the Berner Overland Pass for our time in Wengen and for the train from Luzern to Wengen and the Golden Pass from Interlaken to Montreux. Transportation around the Berner Oberland can be very pricy.
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Old Nov 21st, 2025 | 12:13 AM
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The Berner Oberland pass will change its coverage again when the timetable changes in December. If planning for travel after that (mid Dec) better review the new coverage on the BO Pass site.
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Old Nov 21st, 2025 | 01:05 AM
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Thanks Hambagahle.
But I couldn't find anything else than the map valid since July 2025 (which includes the line Berne - Langnau - Lucerne not mentioned under
"On which lines is the Berner Oberfland Pass valid?")
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Old Nov 21st, 2025 | 11:29 PM
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Neckervd - at present and until the timetable changes next month) the BO pass will take you from Bern to Brig and on to Domodossola, via Kandersteg, and from Bern to Luzern via Brienz. What I read (and I am sorry, I don't remember where!) was that with the new timetable it will no longer cover stations beyond Kandersteg. Similarly - right now - it covers travel from Montreux to Spiez but next year the coverage on that line will only begin in Zwisimmen. With all the AI that is invading our computers these days I don't rely on "second hand" information like this very much which is why I suggested to the OP to check the coverage when s/he buys the pass.

It did look to me as though the BLS was pulling back a bit to its more traditional boundaries. IF I see more information that looks solid I will post it on these Forums.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2025 | 12:00 AM
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All I know is that Brig - Domodossola (BLS trains only) will not be covered any longer.
Berner_Oberland_Pass_2026_Fact_Sheet_EN.pdf
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Old Nov 22nd, 2025 | 04:58 AM
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For Switzerland, I would recommend using the FlexPass, just to know it's not cheap.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2025 | 05:52 PM
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We did a lot of hiking in the Berner Overland but most tourists do not. It is mostly the cableways that are very expensive, even with 50% off. A Flex Pass probably works well for most people if you are not spending a lot of time in the mountains.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2025 | 11:20 PM
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Thanks for confirming that. And the link you provided was very helpful. So I have to assume that Montreux, and all stops to Zweisimmen, are still covered in 2026. (If the journey to Brig is covered this makes sense...)
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