Russia Cruise- spend more time Moscow or St. Petersburg’s
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Russia Cruise- spend more time Moscow or St. Petersburg’s
Going on a Viking River Cruise which starts in St. Petersburg and ends in Moscow. We stay 3 days in each location. Is that enough time? If you were going to extend it, which place would you spend more time in?
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Depends on your interest
St Petersburg is very beautiful, more European , easy to navigate , “ only “ 300 years old, Hermitage
Moscow feels more Russian , has a long history, a huge city with some beautiful areas, Kremlin
A hard choice. Personally I found Moscow more interesting.
St Petersburg is very beautiful, more European , easy to navigate , “ only “ 300 years old, Hermitage
Moscow feels more Russian , has a long history, a huge city with some beautiful areas, Kremlin
A hard choice. Personally I found Moscow more interesting.
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I agree -- they are vastly different. I would add that Moscow has much more traditional Russian architecture, and that St. Petersburg, built much later, bears the mark of the Baroque and later European architectural styles.
I had about 6 days in each city and felt hard-pressed to see what I wanted in so little time. You trip, your call.
Hope that helps!
I had about 6 days in each city and felt hard-pressed to see what I wanted in so little time. You trip, your call.
Hope that helps!
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Perhaps a late reply.... I am Russian, now living in US, and have been multiple times in both Moscow and St Petersburg in the past.
Actually, I am planning a trip to Russia for my husband and myself, so my husband can see where I am from.
In my opinion - St Petersburg deserves all your time and attention hands down. Modern Moscow has some good attractions, but has no soul.
Actually, I am planning a trip to Russia for my husband and myself, so my husband can see where I am from.
In my opinion - St Petersburg deserves all your time and attention hands down. Modern Moscow has some good attractions, but has no soul.
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Mary, quite contrary

A 3/3d split sounds about right to me for a rather exhausting but by no means exhaustive tour.
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Couldn't agree more. I also lived & worked in Russia for over a year (100km from Moscow) and spent almost every weekend in Moscow, plus have been many other times on vacation and still feel I haven't had enough time to see it all. Moscow has the feeling of a great capital city and has many interesting buildings and areas, the metro stations are beautiful, if you like the onion dome churches, Moscow has more of them. Have visited St Petersburg many times, it is very beautiful in the city centre, you can't go wrong with either city, but I disagree that Moscow has no soul.
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That really depends on your interests. If you like modern architecture, shopping and nightlife, you will love Moscow. If you are more into art and culture, St Petersburg is the place to be. Personally, I found it more beautiful and interesting. There is just too much to see and do, so I would definitely spend more time there. St Petersburg is full of museums and palaces, and they are all so gorgeous that I couldn't help walking about with my mouth constantly open! I'll come back for sure!
Also, if you decide to see museums and palaces in St Petersburg, you would probably want to hire a private guide. It always makes a huge difference if you know the story behind the things you are looking at.
Enjoy your cruise!
Also, if you decide to see museums and palaces in St Petersburg, you would probably want to hire a private guide. It always makes a huge difference if you know the story behind the things you are looking at.
Enjoy your cruise!
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I am another vote for Moscow. Of course, it doesn't help St. Petersburg that I am no fan of baroque, and St. Petersburg is resolutely baroque. Moscow is much more varied, and probably more so since I was there in 2004. You might also consider visiting the Golden Ring towns if a trip there is not included with the cruise. A car and driver would probably be a good idea for that but you don't need a guide for St. Petersburg or Moscow, despite the probably self-serving post from asgard.
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I was just speaking from my own experience. I enjoyed my guided tour, it was interesting and fun, and I would never find all that in Google. But I understand it is all very personal, and not everyone gets so involved. Guided or independent, traveling must be fun!
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Guided tours can be great esp if you have not been to Russia before or are short of time. First two times I went (pre 1991), tourists were not allowed to go around by themselves so had a tour guide, it was great and the only real way to have anything to do with a Russian person, last 20+ trips, not needed anymore. Using guides like Fodors that have itineraries for walking tours is a great way to see either city independently.
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Guided tours can be great esp if you have not been to Russia before or are short of time. First two times I went (pre 1991), tourists were not allowed to go around by themselves so had a tour guide, it was great and the only real way to have anything to do with a Russian person, last 20+ trips, not needed anymore. Using guides like Fodors that have itineraries for walking tours is a great way to see either city independently.
I agree that it is a good idea to have a guide if you are visiting for the first time. You get oriented at a place, and later you can come and explore independently.
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We are fairly independent travelers and felt that 2 days/3 nights in Moscow and 3 days/4 nights in Saint Petersburg was about sufficient to sample the cities proper without a guide, and at a fairly active pace. But I will caveat this by adding that we visited each destination in October: both had snowy days, and at that time of year our interest in venturing further afield was zero. If we were repeating these trips in pleasant weather I would want one or two more days additional for each.
In the end, you would do well to research both cities for your interests and plan your time accordingly. This said, if I were fortunate enough to return to either, Saint Petersburg would get the nod over Moscow for the cuisine; the elegance; and the canals for their dreamy, snap-worthy wanderings.
In the end, you would do well to research both cities for your interests and plan your time accordingly. This said, if I were fortunate enough to return to either, Saint Petersburg would get the nod over Moscow for the cuisine; the elegance; and the canals for their dreamy, snap-worthy wanderings.
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We were lucky to have sunshine at all time we were in St Petersburg, but I would probably love it even without such luxury.
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Yes, I do agree that Moscow's parks and estates (Gorky park, VDNH, Sokolniki, Ostankino, Kolomenskoe, Kuskovo, etc, etc...) are best enjoyed in decent weather - but there is quite a bit more to the city
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napoxoguk and kja, I appreciate your comments. There are those who exclaim that a minimum of six days is necessary for a given destination (I would like to see an example of such an itinerary); and there are those of us who have to make do with the three days (apologies, I misremembered) they are afforded, and so prioritize their highlights of interest.
But since you asked, napoxoguk, I looked back on my notes and through my photos for Moscow; in our three full days we toured the Kremlin (and the Armoury and Diamond Fund); St. Basil's; GUM (teenage daughter); Maxim Gorky Museum; the Pushkin Literary Museum and the Pushkin Art Museum. In between we visited Metro stations whenever possible; and walked around the city to view the architecture; and we also observed a changing of the guards at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Naturally most of the palaces and grand estates fell by the wayside; however, with all humility we have the privilege of living in the midst of grand palaces and estates and generally rank them lower on the "must-see" list.
We missed, and wished we had had an additional day for the Transit, Chess, and Mayakovsky Museums (again, our interests); the monasteries on the city outskirts; the (higher-end) dining experiences; and more local shopping. We passed on the overpriced international retailers we can find in Vienna, but did enjoy the beauty and design of the malls and passages.
But since you asked, napoxoguk, I looked back on my notes and through my photos for Moscow; in our three full days we toured the Kremlin (and the Armoury and Diamond Fund); St. Basil's; GUM (teenage daughter); Maxim Gorky Museum; the Pushkin Literary Museum and the Pushkin Art Museum. In between we visited Metro stations whenever possible; and walked around the city to view the architecture; and we also observed a changing of the guards at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Naturally most of the palaces and grand estates fell by the wayside; however, with all humility we have the privilege of living in the midst of grand palaces and estates and generally rank them lower on the "must-see" list.
We missed, and wished we had had an additional day for the Transit, Chess, and Mayakovsky Museums (again, our interests); the monasteries on the city outskirts; the (higher-end) dining experiences; and more local shopping. We passed on the overpriced international retailers we can find in Vienna, but did enjoy the beauty and design of the malls and passages.



