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Apr 30th, 2006, 12:30 PM
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My, what an assumptive bunch! I've never applied congruence to the any of the harmed groups plights. And actually, the tenants have benefited from my emootional charge of personal wrong. It IS connected, one thing compounds the other.
How closely are have you read my complaint before becoming critical? There are address on my website, as well as on the links to two different NYC code violations.
The address on my Expedia Itenerary is 244 W 64th St
New York, NY 10023
But again, if you read the story, they walk you a block and half to another building to check in, then to yet another building for your room. Our very first suspicion of this place was the fact that our NYC Taxi driver was having difficulty locating the address.
How closely are have you read my complaint before becoming critical? There are address on my website, as well as on the links to two different NYC code violations.
The address on my Expedia Itenerary is 244 W 64th St
New York, NY 10023
But again, if you read the story, they walk you a block and half to another building to check in, then to yet another building for your room. Our very first suspicion of this place was the fact that our NYC Taxi driver was having difficulty locating the address.
Apr 30th, 2006, 12:36 PM
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Plus, as a sense of plain human decency, I don't like to see a elderly woman who has lived there since 1969 be illegally evicted, or a community doctor, resident for 10 years become fearful for his saftey.
You don't have to stretch to hard to find a sense of humanity to the tenants plight. Have you lost all sense of decency?
You don't have to stretch to hard to find a sense of humanity to the tenants plight. Have you lost all sense of decency?
Apr 30th, 2006, 05:26 PM
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Thanks for the address- that's right on my way to work.
For the record, sure I am interested and willing to actively support tenant's rights in NYC, but I still question whether these evictions are heavily connected to the traveler's complaint. I think they are broader, ongoing issues that are not limited to this one building complex.
Rent stabilization and the laws pertaining to it is a hot-button issue in NYC.
Maybe the tenants feel your involvement is a tool they can use. Maybe you are more closely involved with them than as a vacationer. Unless Woogo is the owner of the building, theirs is a larger battle.
There are dozens and dozens of these wrongful eviction stories here in NY. It's an old, old story. I've heard several horror stories here in my immediate neighborhood.
I don't see any lack of human decency going on in this debate, just a questioning approach by someone who lives in the area. If you are going to go the legal route with your story, you'll probably get many more questions than these too.
You seem serious and sincere, so if your story is based on unembellished facts, there would be no need for defensiveness when people ask questions or want clarification before they jump on the wagon.
For the record, sure I am interested and willing to actively support tenant's rights in NYC, but I still question whether these evictions are heavily connected to the traveler's complaint. I think they are broader, ongoing issues that are not limited to this one building complex.
Rent stabilization and the laws pertaining to it is a hot-button issue in NYC.
Maybe the tenants feel your involvement is a tool they can use. Maybe you are more closely involved with them than as a vacationer. Unless Woogo is the owner of the building, theirs is a larger battle.
There are dozens and dozens of these wrongful eviction stories here in NY. It's an old, old story. I've heard several horror stories here in my immediate neighborhood.
I don't see any lack of human decency going on in this debate, just a questioning approach by someone who lives in the area. If you are going to go the legal route with your story, you'll probably get many more questions than these too.
You seem serious and sincere, so if your story is based on unembellished facts, there would be no need for defensiveness when people ask questions or want clarification before they jump on the wagon.
May 1st, 2006, 01:02 AM
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Yes, could be the truth.
No, not angry, sorry you think so. Well maybe a little angry when the poster implied that I have no sense of human decency, but decide to less it do.
Button was pushed personally regarding the wrongful eviction issue, that's all. Have friends who have been pushed out of their homes here in NY. It was no picnic.
Live in an area that has more than it's share of SROs with 28 day turnover. (Actually, I doubt if the OP even knows what that means in a neighborhood.)
And the idea that a travel voucher would be relevant to a 69 year woman losing her home, which set me off
Will watch the TV newscast tonight to see more of the story.
Still believe curiosity and asking questions is a healthy habit, and will always do it.
No, not angry, sorry you think so. Well maybe a little angry when the poster implied that I have no sense of human decency, but decide to less it do.
Button was pushed personally regarding the wrongful eviction issue, that's all. Have friends who have been pushed out of their homes here in NY. It was no picnic.
Live in an area that has more than it's share of SROs with 28 day turnover. (Actually, I doubt if the OP even knows what that means in a neighborhood.)
And the idea that a travel voucher would be relevant to a 69 year woman losing her home, which set me off
Will watch the TV newscast tonight to see more of the story.
Still believe curiosity and asking questions is a healthy habit, and will always do it.
May 1st, 2006, 04:35 AM
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Merely telling the truth will not automatically make things better. (Telling someone they look like a fat cow in that dress, even if this is the gospel truth, is not likely going to magically turn said person into a better-dressed person. And she is certainly not going to thank you for your honesty, or even for drawing her attention, which you most certainly would get.)
So, the truth is not a blunt instrument to hit people over the head with. It is not enough to tell it; one must think before speaking; one must tell the truth responsibly, and refrain from browbeating people by implying that unless they agree NOW with everything that has been said and/or proposed, they are inhumane, indecent, etc. etc.
So, one must also tell the truth with realistic expectations. Any truth points to certain specific issues that require specific actions. What issues? What actions? If a person doesn't work these things out, the truth in and of itself won't do the work for them in an ordinary situation, let alone a courtroom.
Along with not being thanked for one's honesty, one is not being realistic to assume that merely telling the truth will have things get better fast. And the more important a truth is, the more things likely need to be done before things get better. Being melodramatic and impatient, being relentlessly nagging about matters will not help - it will merely tire out such supporters as one has, and drive them away.
Merely telling the truth will not automatically make things better. (Telling someone they look like a fat cow in that dress, even if this is the gospel truth, is not likely going to magically turn said person into a better-dressed person. And she is certainly not going to thank you for your honesty, or even for drawing her attention, which you most certainly would get.)
So, the truth is not a blunt instrument to hit people over the head with. It is not enough to tell it; one must think before speaking; one must tell the truth responsibly, and refrain from browbeating people by implying that unless they agree NOW with everything that has been said and/or proposed, they are inhumane, indecent, etc. etc.
So, one must also tell the truth with realistic expectations. Any truth points to certain specific issues that require specific actions. What issues? What actions? If a person doesn't work these things out, the truth in and of itself won't do the work for them in an ordinary situation, let alone a courtroom.
Along with not being thanked for one's honesty, one is not being realistic to assume that merely telling the truth will have things get better fast. And the more important a truth is, the more things likely need to be done before things get better. Being melodramatic and impatient, being relentlessly nagging about matters will not help - it will merely tire out such supporters as one has, and drive them away.
May 1st, 2006, 07:52 AM
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OK, now I'm getting nervous about my own reservations. I've rented from www.imagineireland.com for our trip this June, and they asked for the payment up front -- am I a fool? Has anyone else rented from them? Thanks!
May 2nd, 2006, 07:37 AM
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Searching for this Woogo story online, I started checking out Kelly Britt's background, and found some interesting things about this person.
It seems he submitted himself as a candidate on Donald Trump's "The Apprentice" 2nd Season. And other details. Will continue search later, very busy at work today. Internet makes life interesting...
It seems he submitted himself as a candidate on Donald Trump's "The Apprentice" 2nd Season. And other details. Will continue search later, very busy at work today. Internet makes life interesting...
May 2nd, 2006, 07:42 AM
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For a person who is "too busy" to take the time now, you sure have enough time to keep posting this same odd comment on enough different posts, bellastar.
What is you point? Is it that anyone who ever applied to be on the Apprentice must be a serial killer or something? I fail to see what you're driving at, but you seem to be giving it a negative slant for some reason that I don't understand.
What is you point? Is it that anyone who ever applied to be on the Apprentice must be a serial killer or something? I fail to see what you're driving at, but you seem to be giving it a negative slant for some reason that I don't understand.
May 2nd, 2006, 07:48 AM
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"Well maybe a little angry when the poster implied that I have no sense of human decency".
I apologize for that comment.
If I'm helping the tenants, I don't understand your harsh skepticsim.
I am a vacationer. I don't have much to offer IVY, or Pablo, or any of the other deserving tenants I've met in that building. I want Expedia and WooGo to be responsible for helping restablish some sense of community in that property. I thought that if I made a gesture, with what little Expedia was giving me towards the tenants, that might help clue Expedia in a little on where the real need was.
You are free to investigate me all you want, but it detracts from the issue at hand, which you seem to be concerned about. In fact, you can email me [email protected], and I'll call you -- you can interview me and my family to your hearts content. What about me would you like to know that I have not already answered?
Again, my apologies for the inapprorpiate comment about decency.
I apologize for that comment.
If I'm helping the tenants, I don't understand your harsh skepticsim.
I am a vacationer. I don't have much to offer IVY, or Pablo, or any of the other deserving tenants I've met in that building. I want Expedia and WooGo to be responsible for helping restablish some sense of community in that property. I thought that if I made a gesture, with what little Expedia was giving me towards the tenants, that might help clue Expedia in a little on where the real need was.
You are free to investigate me all you want, but it detracts from the issue at hand, which you seem to be concerned about. In fact, you can email me [email protected], and I'll call you -- you can interview me and my family to your hearts content. What about me would you like to know that I have not already answered?
Again, my apologies for the inapprorpiate comment about decency.
May 2nd, 2006, 08:14 AM
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with finding out who I am. But, there is something wrong when you try to bait what you find as suspicious or negative and use it to defame my name. I only questioned your lack of decency, because you are so negatively skeptical against what is going on wrong here.
Additionally, when I repeatedly correct your mis-perceptions about my inolvement in this situation, you continue to ignore the corrections, and try to refocus the attention on me.
Folks, the problem is not me. I'm not even holding myself out as a hired public service. I've posted facts and sources to all information I have. Don't trust me, trust the facts I have found. www.WooGoSucks.com
Additionally, when I repeatedly correct your mis-perceptions about my inolvement in this situation, you continue to ignore the corrections, and try to refocus the attention on me.
Folks, the problem is not me. I'm not even holding myself out as a hired public service. I've posted facts and sources to all information I have. Don't trust me, trust the facts I have found. www.WooGoSucks.com
May 2nd, 2006, 08:40 AM
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The negative reports about Yourstay.com go back for several years at least. I remember the poster Calamari had a horrible experience at her apartment in London, and there have been many others as well. One person had a bad honeymoon stay at a Yourstay.com apartment in Paris.
May 2nd, 2006, 08:51 AM
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OK Folks, I got your messages.
No, I am not a stalker.
I am a NYC resident.
I have been posting here for a while and usually have tried to give helpful suggestion to people to travel in areas in Italy where i have direct experience.
I am not "investigating" this Kelly Britt person. But I was interested in who he/she is. So I tried to find out, the same way he is researching and using personal stories about tenants in the building he's talking about.
I see that I am being flamed and called ugly names ("Stalker"
for not agreeing with the majority. It's getting too ugly for me, and it feels bad, so You all Win.
I'm crawling away now and leaving you to yourselves. Hopefully you will forget I ever existed. Yuck. Can't wait to get to Italy and forget this!
Bye. I'm gone for awhile, and when I come back, I will studiously avoid any of these threads, not to worry.
No, I am not a stalker.
I am a NYC resident.
I have been posting here for a while and usually have tried to give helpful suggestion to people to travel in areas in Italy where i have direct experience.
I am not "investigating" this Kelly Britt person. But I was interested in who he/she is. So I tried to find out, the same way he is researching and using personal stories about tenants in the building he's talking about.
I see that I am being flamed and called ugly names ("Stalker"
for not agreeing with the majority. It's getting too ugly for me, and it feels bad, so You all Win.I'm crawling away now and leaving you to yourselves. Hopefully you will forget I ever existed. Yuck. Can't wait to get to Italy and forget this!
Bye. I'm gone for awhile, and when I come back, I will studiously avoid any of these threads, not to worry.
May 2nd, 2006, 08:59 AM
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bella, sorry, you dug your own hole.
The real topic on had is:
www.WooGoSucks.com
In NYC, UPN 9, aired a scathing 5 minute news segment on all the illegal activities that are fleecing tenants and tourists under the WooGo business name. I'm working with Fox to get permission to post a copy on my site.
Please help spread the word.
The real topic on had is:
www.WooGoSucks.com
In NYC, UPN 9, aired a scathing 5 minute news segment on all the illegal activities that are fleecing tenants and tourists under the WooGo business name. I'm working with Fox to get permission to post a copy on my site.
Please help spread the word.
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