Why not Gdansk?
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Why not Gdansk?
Everybody who goes to Poland asks here about Krakow (Old Town, Salt Mine, Auschwitz, Schindler;s Factory) or sometimes Warsaw. Why not to vist Polish seaside? For example Gdansk? Over 1000 years old city, where II World War broke out and which has Old Town more Ducth in character than Amsterdam nowadays...
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I am there frequently since we bought a condo in Gdynia, which our 88 year old mother promptly commandeered for herself.
The brick wall is the place of execution of the defenders of the Post Office.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...F2NmFfa25tNU5n
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No surprise there.
Back in the days of the Ottoman Empire and even before that the easiest way to get the Ukrainian grain to European markets was to barge it on the river Bug and Wisla, load it on ships in Gdansk and out to Europe through the Kattegat Strait.
Some richest people in the worlds were the Baltic grain merchants.
Back in the days of the Ottoman Empire and even before that the easiest way to get the Ukrainian grain to European markets was to barge it on the river Bug and Wisla, load it on ships in Gdansk and out to Europe through the Kattegat Strait.
Some richest people in the worlds were the Baltic grain merchants.
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Gdansk IS a Hanseatic (old German, in order to simplify a bit too much, but NOT Dutch) city, like Sczecin and others along the Baltic Sea.
It's charming and a good base for all kinds of day trips (Marienburg, Masurian lakes, etc.)
Most somewhat important Polnish cities are worth to see, but tourist people concentrate at Krakow and Warszawa.
You find this phenomena in almost all European countries.
Or who goes to gems like
Merida, Caceres, Ubeda, Baeza, Aosta, Perouges, Orbe, Gent, Rattenberg am Inn, Bretten, Mühlhausen (Thüringen), Weimar, Olomouc, Sighisoara, Sibiu, Veliko Trnovo, Ivano Frankivsk........?
It's charming and a good base for all kinds of day trips (Marienburg, Masurian lakes, etc.)
Most somewhat important Polnish cities are worth to see, but tourist people concentrate at Krakow and Warszawa.
You find this phenomena in almost all European countries.
Or who goes to gems like
Merida, Caceres, Ubeda, Baeza, Aosta, Perouges, Orbe, Gent, Rattenberg am Inn, Bretten, Mühlhausen (Thüringen), Weimar, Olomouc, Sighisoara, Sibiu, Veliko Trnovo, Ivano Frankivsk........?
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Many people are simply not aware of it, the same with many places. Most Americans for example will slavishly follow the advice of Rick Steves and travel the same, cliched routes along with all the other tourists. Granted there are many places that are rightfully popular because of what is there, think London, Paris, Rome, Prague et al. But somewhere such as The Cotswolds which is seemingly on every American's bucket list whilst attractive is not unique, there are hundreds upon hundreds of villages up and down the UK that are equally as attractive yet they barely receive any attention because they're not under the spotlight of influential travel writers.
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Many people are simply not aware of it, the same with many places. Most Americans for example will slavishly follow the advice of Rick Steves and travel the same, cliched routes along with all the other tourists. Granted there are many places that are rightfully popular because of what is there, think London, Paris, Rome, Prague et al. But somewhere such as The Cotswolds which is seemingly on every American's bucket list whilst attractive is not unique, there are hundreds upon hundreds of villages up and down the UK that are equally as attractive yet they barely receive any attention because they're not under the spotlight of influential travel writers.
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I agree with some of what you wrote. Personally, Gdansk has been on my radar for a few years. It looks gorgeous and all but a little too far away from more popular places which would likely serve as a base or multi-country stop. If I were on a business trip to Poland, it would make sense geographically. Ditto for a river cruise that would stop there. Otherwise, it's really nowhere close to a European Alpha city like Berlin (6h 31m away) or even the capital city of Warsaw (3h 42m away). That means you've either got to have a lot of time on the ground (which most Americans don't) or be close enough to visit as a daytrip. This is why Charleston and Savannah don't get a lot of European tourism here in the US, despite being beautiful places. They're just too far away from places like NY, S. Florida, and California.
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You see you're thinking like an American and that's travelling by driving. Berlin to Gdansk is just over an hours flight away, from London it's 2 hours and 10 minutes (and for as little as £40 return with Ryanair). I have my eye on Gdansk at some point but it's just that pesky Stansted airport that gets in the way.
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Gdansk IS a major tourist destination in Poland. It may rank behind Krakow and Warsaw in numbers (the latter also due to business travel, of course) but still is a household name (at least in Germany) as a vacation destination. Especially when you allow extra time to explore the nearby Baltic coast and the Mazury lake district.
It may just happen that you take a picture of an elk grazing in front of a beautiful vista of a lake that you have all for yourself and your photo is the first one on Instagram from that location. Well, not in Gdansk but in the lake district, obviously 😁
Travelwise, I don‘t consider taking the plane such a challenge. Many people here are fascinated by rail travel (and why not, when you like it) that they seem to forget that trains are often delayed, too, or miss a connection.
All means of transportation have their good days and not so good days, IMO.
It may just happen that you take a picture of an elk grazing in front of a beautiful vista of a lake that you have all for yourself and your photo is the first one on Instagram from that location. Well, not in Gdansk but in the lake district, obviously 😁
Travelwise, I don‘t consider taking the plane such a challenge. Many people here are fascinated by rail travel (and why not, when you like it) that they seem to forget that trains are often delayed, too, or miss a connection.
All means of transportation have their good days and not so good days, IMO.
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It seems that there are people who go from Zurich or from the Salzkammergut by public transport to Neuschwanstein (5 1/2 resp. 6 hrs by train) in order to see a castle.
If they were interested in a real European fortress, they would go to Marienburg/Malbork instead, just half an hr by train from Gdansk or 2 1/2 hrs by train from Warszawa.
If they were interested in a unspoilt and untouristy medieval European city, they would go to Graudenz/Grudziadz, 2 hrs by train from Gdansk.
Instead of continuing endlessly in this way:
there are tons of interesting sites around Gdansk. A visit of Gdansk without a visit of the surroundings would be like a visit of Bolzano/Bozen without a visit of the Dolomites.
If they were interested in a real European fortress, they would go to Marienburg/Malbork instead, just half an hr by train from Gdansk or 2 1/2 hrs by train from Warszawa.
If they were interested in a unspoilt and untouristy medieval European city, they would go to Graudenz/Grudziadz, 2 hrs by train from Gdansk.
Instead of continuing endlessly in this way:
there are tons of interesting sites around Gdansk. A visit of Gdansk without a visit of the surroundings would be like a visit of Bolzano/Bozen without a visit of the Dolomites.
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It can be a base place
I spent there 2 weeks last time, besing based in Hel Town... and it was not enough. I'm coming back with some more plans for sightseeign, for example I'm going to visit old Lusitian culture village in the area.
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Many people are simply not aware of it, the same with many places. Most Americans for example will slavishly follow the advice of Rick Steves and travel the same, cliched routes along with all the other tourists. Granted there are many places that are rightfully popular because of what is there, think London, Paris, Rome, Prague et al. But somewhere such as The Cotswolds which is seemingly on every American's bucket list whilst attractive is not unique, there are hundreds upon hundreds of villages up and down the UK that are equally as attractive yet they barely receive any attention because they're not under the spotlight of influential travel writers.
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>Gdansk IS a Hanseatic (old German, in order to simplify a bit too much, but NOT Dutch) city, like Sczecin and others along the Baltic Sea.
Gdansk is part of the European Route of Brick Gothic, which stretches from Denmark to Poland. We have followed this trail only from Lüneburg to Parchim, and it is a nice meandering drive that follows the Elbe. The trail fades out in some parts and it is definitely better kept in the western parts. One day we will come back and do the rest and get to Gdansk, but there always seems to be a different priority when we go to Germany, which we do on a more or less regular basis. We will have to come back and do Poland in a separate trip.
https://www.germany.travel/en/leisur...ck-gothic.html
https://www.eurob.org/polen/gdansk-danzig/?lang=en
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Gdansk is part of the European Route of Brick Gothic, which stretches from Denmark to Poland. We have followed this trail only from Lüneburg to Parchim, and it is a nice meandering drive that follows the Elbe. The trail fades out in some parts and it is definitely better kept in the western parts. One day we will come back and do the rest and get to Gdansk, but there always seems to be a different priority when we go to Germany, which we do on a more or less regular basis. We will have to come back and do Poland in a separate trip.
https://www.germany.travel/en/leisur...ck-gothic.html
https://www.eurob.org/polen/gdansk-danzig/?lang=en
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The beer fest was a pleasant surprise in Rzeszów:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...o3TS1DcHFzMVln
Nearby Łańcut Palace and its carriage museum, one of the best in Europe.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...ViOE1DaFBhUjJn
Sandomierz, pleasantly busy with families enjoying a "trade free weekend"
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...daUThtcGRGcHJB
Between the above, the best route to take is the "Wooden Architecture Trail".
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...Z3UjgwY002Y0dR
Gdynia, always busy in the summer, last weekend in June celebrates the "Days of the Sea"
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...tfdklYcTB1Tjhn
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To what cnyul mentioned I'd add up for example Zamośc - an example of Reneissance town and once mighty fortress (defended against Cossacs and Swedish). When in Gdańsk I'd visit tiny Frombork - a place where Nicolaus Copernicus lived.
Toruń, Kazimierz (same name as old Jewish quarter in Krakow, but different city) - both by Vistula river and also fine Reneissance architecture. Poznań - once capital city (before Kraków) and Wrocław - the biggest city in Silesia, although rebuilt (totally demolished during the siege in 1945). It is plenty of "hidden gems" there...*







