What's the least expensive destination in Europe?
Mar 9th, 2007, 01:39 AM
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PS: My experience is that Slovakia in early winter's not quite as bad as Romania - but it's still a bad time to go.
I've not been over the border to Ukraine in November. Because the snow made the roads leading from Suceava in Romania over to Ukraine impassable. So I'd forget about winter in Ukraine too.
I've not been over the border to Ukraine in November. Because the snow made the roads leading from Suceava in Romania over to Ukraine impassable. So I'd forget about winter in Ukraine too.
Mar 9th, 2007, 02:49 AM
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Given your interests and the places you have previously visited, I would suggest #1 Greece, #2 Ireland. These are not the least expensive but they have a lot to offer and are both a good travel value.
Mar 9th, 2007, 04:25 AM
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Ireland is "not the least expensive". That is true; it's one of the most expensive destinations in Europe. For a few days away, I find it cheaper to pay an airfare to visit a destination in continental Europe than to drive to an Irish hotel 100 miles from my home.
As a general rule, for less expensive, go east and south. As a further general rule, go outside popular cities and resorts. But then you might not find much to interest you.
In my experience (not yet having been everywhere) I find Budapest very good value, and Croatia offers some inexpensive coastal resorts. I understand that my money would go a long way in Poland, and hope to check it out this year.
As a general rule, for less expensive, go east and south. As a further general rule, go outside popular cities and resorts. But then you might not find much to interest you.
In my experience (not yet having been everywhere) I find Budapest very good value, and Croatia offers some inexpensive coastal resorts. I understand that my money would go a long way in Poland, and hope to check it out this year.
Mar 9th, 2007, 04:31 AM
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Prague is reasonable, but I agree get there before everyone around the world discovers it. I was there in February and was amazed at the crowds. I was expecting the streets to empty at this time of year, they were not. It's the most magical city in Europe. Try to avoid getting there through Paris (CDG) This airport is a NIGHTMARE!
Mar 9th, 2007, 05:18 AM
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Inexpensive is a relative thing. We stayed in Prague at the Hotel Kampa Gardens in November for about $65/night including breakfast and it is a very nice place in an outstanding location. See reviews. As others have mentioned, one can eat and drink cheaply in Prague - we found a cafeteria near the main square where we had a filling and decent meal for under $3 including beer. Prague is rightly popular. I would call it a popular tourist destination rather than a "trap" that has negative connotations.
Mar 9th, 2007, 05:36 AM
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Unless you know that you can use frequent flyer miles, the air fare is a huge factor in the price of a vacation. A big factor in the air fare is the season...fares that are $625 in March turn in to $1200 fares in June.
Think about it...if it costs two of you $1400 each to get to an "inexpensive" destination, and it would cost you $800 each to get to a more expensive destination, you would have to save $1200 on hotel, food, etc. at the "cheap" place to break even.
Think about it...if it costs two of you $1400 each to get to an "inexpensive" destination, and it would cost you $800 each to get to a more expensive destination, you would have to save $1200 on hotel, food, etc. at the "cheap" place to break even.
Mar 9th, 2007, 05:37 AM
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Look, I'm sorry to keep batting on about this, but you are talking about early winter, and most of Europe is a great deal further north than the USA.
With conventional tourism to Europe - to Britain or France, say - this doesn't matter, because the Gulf Stream keeps Western Europe surprisingly warm during the winter. That's why London (on the same latitude as Calgary) often goes through two or three successive winters without a flake of snow.
But nowhere in Europe has beaches you can do any more than have bracing walks along in December.
And the Gulf Stream doesn't help Eastern Europe much at all. Poland gets cold and miserable by November. Forget about Croatian resorts. So apart from the odd ex-communist (some people get tetchy if you say Poland's in eastern Europe) city with an awful lot to do (which comes down to Prague or Prague), Istanbul (which would be my vote) or Thessalonica/Athens, you're really reduced to conventional Western Europe.
Of which, only Madrid and Barcelona are in lower-cost countries and meet your criteria if you want to stay in one place. It's not a bad time, though, for driving round areas (like Provence or Andalucia) with lots of interesting places to see. And you can, as others point out, always put your energy into working out how to spend your time in London and Berlin on the cheap.
In both cases - as in all Europe's other interesting cities - millions of people manage just that all year round.
With conventional tourism to Europe - to Britain or France, say - this doesn't matter, because the Gulf Stream keeps Western Europe surprisingly warm during the winter. That's why London (on the same latitude as Calgary) often goes through two or three successive winters without a flake of snow.
But nowhere in Europe has beaches you can do any more than have bracing walks along in December.
And the Gulf Stream doesn't help Eastern Europe much at all. Poland gets cold and miserable by November. Forget about Croatian resorts. So apart from the odd ex-communist (some people get tetchy if you say Poland's in eastern Europe) city with an awful lot to do (which comes down to Prague or Prague), Istanbul (which would be my vote) or Thessalonica/Athens, you're really reduced to conventional Western Europe.
Of which, only Madrid and Barcelona are in lower-cost countries and meet your criteria if you want to stay in one place. It's not a bad time, though, for driving round areas (like Provence or Andalucia) with lots of interesting places to see. And you can, as others point out, always put your energy into working out how to spend your time in London and Berlin on the cheap.
In both cases - as in all Europe's other interesting cities - millions of people manage just that all year round.
Mar 9th, 2007, 07:57 AM
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Prague is cheap if you're careful where you eat and drink. Stay away from tourist trap areas and you'll be fine. Budapest is also great value and there's plenty to do there. Like Prague - no beaches though!
Lisbon is a good bet - plenty to see and it's lovely. Very cheap and great food.
The cheapest place I've been to over the last couple of years was Estonia - but there's not enough to do there to make a two-week stay worthwhile. You could take the ferry from Talinn to Helsinki - thereby going from one of the cheapest to one of the most expensive European capitals in less than two hours!
My vote : Lisbon!
My vote
Lisbon is a good bet - plenty to see and it's lovely. Very cheap and great food.
The cheapest place I've been to over the last couple of years was Estonia - but there's not enough to do there to make a two-week stay worthwhile. You could take the ferry from Talinn to Helsinki - thereby going from one of the cheapest to one of the most expensive European capitals in less than two hours!
My vote : Lisbon!
My vote
Mar 9th, 2007, 08:13 AM
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flanner - I agree with you! I was paying too much attention to "cheap" and not enough to "November", although I was thinking Crimea rather than the rest of Ukraine. I'd probably consider Morocco, or maybe Sicily, if I was traveling in November, unless I was going for a big city like London or Paris. There are ways to do them on the cheap, but not if you want fancy hotels and lots of restaurant meals.
Mar 9th, 2007, 09:03 AM
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Right now Hungary seems to me to be the most bang for your buck! The country side is beautiful, the people gracious and welcoming (especially if you speak any Hungarian)...Visegrad, Eger...even Budapest, while some of the lodging is expensive there are B&B's that are very reasonable and restaurants that are supurb and not expensive. The architecture is beautiful, the history rich and the culture is wonderful.
Mar 9th, 2007, 09:28 AM
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I think that one could go to lots of places in Europe on a budget by doing a bit of advance planning. Staying in smaller towns away from the big cities will almost always be a big cost saver. Staying in apartments instead of hotels can also save lots of money.
We were in Croatia in November and found it quite lovely despite the fact that we were there during off season. The weather was fine, especially compared to what I'm used to in the US during the same months. The prices overall weren't too bad. Lodging was a little on the high side, but the food was inexpensive so it balanced each other out.
I think that Bavaria is also relatively inexpensive. We stayed in a lovely vacation apartment with million dollar views for about 50 euro per night. Buy buying some of our food at local grocery stores we saved even more money.
Just some thoughts.
Tracy
We were in Croatia in November and found it quite lovely despite the fact that we were there during off season. The weather was fine, especially compared to what I'm used to in the US during the same months. The prices overall weren't too bad. Lodging was a little on the high side, but the food was inexpensive so it balanced each other out.
I think that Bavaria is also relatively inexpensive. We stayed in a lovely vacation apartment with million dollar views for about 50 euro per night. Buy buying some of our food at local grocery stores we saved even more money.
Just some thoughts.
Tracy
Mar 9th, 2007, 10:06 AM
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Another vote for Turkey. We were in Turkey in early December and wore light jackets. Lodging was inexpensive as was great food. The history of the place is incredible, the people warm and inviting. Go before they are accepted into the European Union which I am sure will change the cost of everything.
Mar 9th, 2007, 10:06 AM
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For ten years now I have kept a note of what forum readers say about prices in Europe. If I start with the cheapest, I get
Armenia, using home stay
(Azerbaijan, Armenia, Russia and Belorus are hard to list here. In almost every other country accommodation costs are in line with other day-to-day expenses but not in Russia and most other states of the former Soviet Union.
Ukraine comes almost lowest in this order of tourist costs if you rent an apartment for a week, or can use one of the few two-star hotels.)
Ukraine, using home stay
Moldova
Bulgaria
Slovakia
Romania
Armenia, using a hotel
Albania
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia
Serbia
Poland
(excluding Krakow)
Czech Republic
(excluding Prague)
Hungary
Macedonia
Montenegro
(excluding Podgorica)
Croatia
Podgorica
Slovenia
Portugal
Southern Spain
Krakow
Turkey
Southern Italy
Greece
Prague
Northern Italy
Netherlands
Sweden
Finland
France
Austria
Ireland
Norway
Switzerland
Denmark
Ireland
Britain
Ben Haines
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Armenia, using home stay
(Azerbaijan, Armenia, Russia and Belorus are hard to list here. In almost every other country accommodation costs are in line with other day-to-day expenses but not in Russia and most other states of the former Soviet Union.
Ukraine comes almost lowest in this order of tourist costs if you rent an apartment for a week, or can use one of the few two-star hotels.)
Ukraine, using home stay
Moldova
Bulgaria
Slovakia
Romania
Armenia, using a hotel
Albania
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia
Serbia
Poland
(excluding Krakow)
Czech Republic
(excluding Prague)
Hungary
Macedonia
Montenegro
(excluding Podgorica)
Croatia
Podgorica
Slovenia
Portugal
Southern Spain
Krakow
Turkey
Southern Italy
Greece
Prague
Northern Italy
Netherlands
Sweden
Finland
France
Austria
Ireland
Norway
Switzerland
Denmark
Ireland
Britain
Ben Haines
[email protected]
Mar 9th, 2007, 10:11 AM
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I hear that Albania is hopping these days, after a few years of mafia massacres and lawless streets.
But to reply seriously to the question, I would say Portugal. But isn't it time to start thinking about Morocco? The weather is often still delightful in November-December.
But to reply seriously to the question, I would say Portugal. But isn't it time to start thinking about Morocco? The weather is often still delightful in November-December.
