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Old Dec 18th, 2012, 09:13 PM
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Thanks ahning, I note the route to B'ham and am keeping a watch on ticket rates also. I would be able to book only by Jan - end for my travel of March -end.
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I think you will enjoy Kensington. Depending where in Greenwich you were looking makes a huge difference. In the village is fine and you could have taken the train into London bridge. The DLR takes about 30 mins into bank from there...farther than from the Docklands. Anywhere outside the village I would not recommend for tourists.
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Old Dec 19th, 2012, 08:47 AM
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Thanks Jamikins, as I said I have booked a place in south Kensington so I believe I am somewhere in London itself and not so far as compared to either docklands or Greenwich.

Thanks all for making it so smooth; I value all your comments and really appreciate them all.

My next question is again related to London and is about getting around in London. Would like to know more about the Tube and metro. I have travelled in Metro rails of Paris and Italy so I just need basic idea about the same. Also, I have been listening about Oyster - is that really helpful for a 3-day stay in London; please comment.

Finally, booking an advance ticket for all my travel should help me in minimizing the travel cost between those cities. However, I think only need to take a hit in regarding punctuallity of a given timetable to catch a train. Hope nothing else.

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Old Dec 19th, 2012, 08:56 AM
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Which is the simpler yet cheaper way to reach Birmingham from Heathrow via train/tube/underground?
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Old Dec 19th, 2012, 09:56 AM
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The tube and underground are the same thing. Two people have told you the tube doesn't go to Birmingham. I guess I am the third, now.

Your options are train or coach (Intercity Bus). See www.nationalrail.co.uk for the former, www.nationalexpress.com for the latter.
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Well maybe they mean Tube to the train station to catch trains to Birmingham?
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Old Dec 19th, 2012, 06:29 PM
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Thanks Morgana and Bilboburgler for your suggestions in respect of York. I am looking into further details and shall certainly come back to you to gain more knowledge about this area.
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I based a few times in the York area and there are many many neat day trips to do from there.

Harrogate is one of Britain's premier spa towns - lovely park-like setting and old thermal houses (the water itself tastes terrible - stinks!) and Harrogate is also a lovely old town - the original Betty's Tea Shoppe (not sure official name) is in Harrogate I believe - Betty's in York is a famous tea emporium that IMO should not be missed for its uniqueness and experience

and also day trips to Haworth (sp?) - home of the Bronte sisters and Bronte country with the desolate Yorkshire Moors backdropping the town and providing a unique walking place - you can take an old steam train up there from Keighley ('Keetley') - on a main rail line or bus from Keighley is sans car.

Leeds of course is an easy day trip

And I did walk from Ripon as Morgana says possible thru Studley Royal Park to Fountains Abbey and back - a lovely but long walk - there were no buses going to the abbey ruins the day I took a bus to Ripon from Harrogate so instead of a cab I walked and love to walk in any case - an interesting walk but a longish walk.

And the North Yorkshire Moors Railway - not sure of official name runs from a train station east of York - a great ride - at the other end you can get a bus or train to Whitby - Dracula's home town and see the famous Whitby Castle on the sea - from there you can take a bus to Scraborough, a classic but fading seaside resort for buses back to York.

Or take a boat ride from York to the Archbishops' Palace.

In York itself do not miss the National Railway Museum, right by the main rail station - which is also a remarkable piece of Victorian architecture in its own right - one of the few curving train sheds I've ever seen.

So much to see and do in York itself and lots of neat easy day trips.
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Terminology is important.

THERE IS NO METRO IN LONDON.

The public transportation system for London is London Transport. There are various pieces of this pie: (1) London Buses, (2) The Underground, which is known as "The Tube" and NEVER as "metro"; (3) the Docklands Light Railway, which is covered by Oyster and Travelcards; (4) London Overground, which connects various parts of the outskirts of London to each other and is basically irrelevant if you are staying in central London.

NONE of those options go to Birmingham.

South Kensington is in London.
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Big Russ says that terminology is important. Also important is that current terminology is preferable to obsolete terminology.

London Transport was the operational brand for the various London Travel Authorities from 1933 to 2000. Since 2000, the name of the authority and the brand is Transport for London, abbreviated as TfL.
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Old Dec 21st, 2012, 03:13 PM
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Yes Transport for London since 2000 - 12 years now since the London Transport name was sent to the scrapheap of history. Tsk tsk!
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Old Dec 21st, 2012, 10:55 PM
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And tsk tak for your pronounciation of Keighley which is most definitely not 'Keetly'!
It's Keith Lee. Or if you fancy giving it a bit more of a Yorkshire accent go for Keith Lah!
I think the North Yorks Moors Railway goes right to Whitby these days, or that could be just during the summer months (you'd need to check the timetable if this appeals to you).
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Old Dec 22nd, 2012, 09:00 AM
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Morgana - one diffference - mine was a typo - I knew it was Keith-ly but type Keely - I would never have dreamt it were Keith-ly until I asked about trains to Bronte Country at train information in York and they said "Keithly".
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Old Dec 23rd, 2012, 08:05 AM
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North Yorks Moors Railway>

tsk tsk it's the North Yorkshire Moors Railway!
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Old Dec 23rd, 2012, 10:12 AM
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'Yorks' is an abbreviation of 'Yorkshire' commonly
used by us over here in England, especially Yorkshire locals. For instance on my address I write that I live in 'North Yorks' as opposed to 'North Yorkshire'.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2012, 11:59 AM
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PQ - WTH?? tsk tsking for that?

(even you should know that is correct - Yorks, Oxon, Bucks, Hants, Herts, and so on. . . common 'shorthand' for various counties.)
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Old Dec 23rd, 2012, 10:10 PM
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Thanks all for giving nice inputs regarding London transport and York related information also.
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Old Dec 24th, 2012, 05:47 AM
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Moors yes I know is an abbreviation of Yorkshire but the name of the railway, tsk tsk is the North Yorkshire Moore Railway - tsk tsk!

And in York do not miss the ghost-inhabited haunted Treasurer's House (not sure of exact name but Janis will correct if wrong.
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Old Dec 24th, 2012, 05:52 AM
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Oops North Yorkshire Moors Railway - I see no North Yorks Moors Railway vernacular of the official North Yorkshire Moors Railway!
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Old Dec 24th, 2012, 06:15 AM
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heaven forfend that you should be accused of pedantry, Pal!
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