Venice. thought I knew area to stay in, but see there's much more!
Aug 8th, 2013, 01:26 PM
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Please, sweetie, and San Marco isn't commercial????
The only difference is that it is all low-end souvenirs along Lista di Spagna and Prada, Ferragamo, Pauly, and Louis Vuitton in San Marco.
Not everyone who goes to Venice is interested in buying a two thousand dollar bowl at Venini.
Oh, and a Wusthof knife!!!!!
And I, the white trash that I am, was going to write that the wind cuts like a Ginsu knife.
Thin, hoi polloi
The only difference is that it is all low-end souvenirs along Lista di Spagna and Prada, Ferragamo, Pauly, and Louis Vuitton in San Marco.
Not everyone who goes to Venice is interested in buying a two thousand dollar bowl at Venini.
Oh, and a Wusthof knife!!!!!
And I, the white trash that I am, was going to write that the wind cuts like a Ginsu knife.
Thin, hoi polloi
Aug 8th, 2013, 03:10 PM
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<i><font color=#555555>"I am really not familiar with venice."</font></i>
<i><font color=#555555>"Y'all keep saying 'lower your expectations'. What does that mean?"</font></i>
I can only speak for myself. Visit Venice a few times at Christmas, then let's talk.
<i><font color=#555555>"I am not expecting anything out of the ordinary that I am aware of, am I?"</font></i>
Nothing is ordinary in Venice, especially in winter.
<i><font color=#555555>"But just curious the attitude??"</font></i>
As opposed to "Y'all?"
<i><font color=#555555>"As to food, we don't need the 'top' spots."</font></i>
"Top" takes on a whole new meaning Venice, but regular visitors know this. My list of Venice favorites is hovering around 16. If I'm lucky, four will be open at Christmas.
<i><font color=#555555>"Please, sweetie, and San Marco isn't commercial?"</font></i>
I read this and then I thought, "Is she talking to me?" Then I re-read further up, and I see Thin's a fan of Lista di Spagna. I forgot, LUSH, that godawful soap store. Of course, I had to laugh at the "no Americans." Must everything be a fantasy, dear?
Sorry Thin, Piazza San Marco will always be "the drawing room of Europe." And Lista di Spagna will always be Venice's exit. Do you want to sit in the drawing room or on the toilets at the train station?
Who cares about Prada, Ferragamo, Pauly, Louis, and Venini when one can wine and dine with Raffaele at the new Quadri?
As for knives, the German's and the Japanese make great cutlery. Infinity or BMW?
<i><font color=#555555>"Y'all keep saying 'lower your expectations'. What does that mean?"</font></i>
I can only speak for myself. Visit Venice a few times at Christmas, then let's talk.
<i><font color=#555555>"I am not expecting anything out of the ordinary that I am aware of, am I?"</font></i>
Nothing is ordinary in Venice, especially in winter.
<i><font color=#555555>"But just curious the attitude??"</font></i>
As opposed to "Y'all?"
<i><font color=#555555>"As to food, we don't need the 'top' spots."</font></i>
"Top" takes on a whole new meaning Venice, but regular visitors know this. My list of Venice favorites is hovering around 16. If I'm lucky, four will be open at Christmas.
<i><font color=#555555>"Please, sweetie, and San Marco isn't commercial?"</font></i>
I read this and then I thought, "Is she talking to me?" Then I re-read further up, and I see Thin's a fan of Lista di Spagna. I forgot, LUSH, that godawful soap store. Of course, I had to laugh at the "no Americans." Must everything be a fantasy, dear?
Sorry Thin, Piazza San Marco will always be "the drawing room of Europe." And Lista di Spagna will always be Venice's exit. Do you want to sit in the drawing room or on the toilets at the train station?
Who cares about Prada, Ferragamo, Pauly, Louis, and Venini when one can wine and dine with Raffaele at the new Quadri?
As for knives, the German's and the Japanese make great cutlery. Infinity or BMW?
Aug 8th, 2013, 03:37 PM
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Well, the drawing room of Europe is filled with cruise ship day trippers.
Listen, Ohio honey, I just walked through Piazza San Marco two weeks ago and I counted 4 carts that sold those stupid gondoliers' hats, not to mention the Africans selling the fake Louis Vuitton and Prada bags.
"Come on, you know the price."
For someone who occasionally visits the Strada Nova, it is funny that you know exactly where the LUSH store is.
And we all know that plenty of people ENTER Venice through Santa Lucia Station and the Piazzale Roma.
But, maybe because you are from Ohio you are used to the Greyhound Bus Station in Columbus.
Thin, a he not a she
Listen, Ohio honey, I just walked through Piazza San Marco two weeks ago and I counted 4 carts that sold those stupid gondoliers' hats, not to mention the Africans selling the fake Louis Vuitton and Prada bags.
"Come on, you know the price."
For someone who occasionally visits the Strada Nova, it is funny that you know exactly where the LUSH store is.
And we all know that plenty of people ENTER Venice through Santa Lucia Station and the Piazzale Roma.
But, maybe because you are from Ohio you are used to the Greyhound Bus Station in Columbus.
Thin, a he not a she
Aug 8th, 2013, 05:51 PM
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Hey pals! Find another thread to argue on, if you please! You seem to want to snip at people but are too above it all to assist? Really! And I could go on about nothing better to do than air your alleged superiority on a random forum of strangers! Really! Get a life!
To the helpful majority, thank you!
To the helpful majority, thank you!
Aug 8th, 2013, 06:04 PM
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I think that if you are staying in San Marco, try to stay west of Campo San Stefano – that area is less commercial, a bit of a backwater, less traffic. There are a few hotels there. Easy to get from there to Dorsoduro and the Academy and Guggenheim, ten minutes to the Piazza.
Less likelihood of acqua alta, as it is a little higher than east of San Stefano. But I’m not guaranteeing that. You should be able to find the tide chart for December, which would give a bit of an indication.
Less likelihood of acqua alta, as it is a little higher than east of San Stefano. But I’m not guaranteeing that. You should be able to find the tide chart for December, which would give a bit of an indication.
Aug 8th, 2013, 06:10 PM
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Here's an interactive map of acqua alta. Drag the arrow at right to different levels to see the areas that would flood in such a tide.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...nice-animation
Here are the tide charts:
http://www.comune.venezia.it/flex/cm.../IDPagina/1748
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...nice-animation
Here are the tide charts:
http://www.comune.venezia.it/flex/cm.../IDPagina/1748
Aug 8th, 2013, 06:24 PM
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Thanks for that, Peter, I am finding quite a few nice options there, in sm. and checked your vrbo, you have stayed there before? Looks great!
And thanks, Ellen, for the tide charts. I knew the full moon, but this is exactly what I needed. Seems I may be in the clear. Neat map, I hadn't found that.
There is an amazing availability. Too many options maybe!
And thanks, Ellen, for the tide charts. I knew the full moon, but this is exactly what I needed. Seems I may be in the clear. Neat map, I hadn't found that.
There is an amazing availability. Too many options maybe!
Aug 8th, 2013, 07:25 PM
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Excuse me, but this thread does NOT belong to you.
This thread is the property of Fodor's and we have every right to make comments here.
If the editors do not like our comments they can delete them.
Thin
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Aug 8th, 2013, 08:11 PM
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MMoom, it was this year, so we're still missing Venice.
We had breakfast often at L' Archivo, a bar immediately in front of the Frari. Good coffee, pleasant staff.
We ate a couple of times at a place in Campo san Polo, called something like Beer or Bier. But it's not a beer place. It's on the north-east corner of the campo.
We like Campo Margerita - it was busy when we were there with students graduating, receiving ritual humiliation. However, I think that the places to eat there (one hesitates to call them restaurants) could be a bit ordinary. The Pugni bar, in front of the Pont de Pugni, as you cross from C. Margerita to C. San Barnaba, is one we like. If you go there around 1:00 PM, you'll see a very artistic guy having lunch just inside the window. Don't be surprised if he introduces himself. The bar is just beside the vegetable barge.
Fabio Bressalano does good photos - really top class stuff, and his shop is right beside the Bar de Pugni. I bought a photo from him four years ago - it is a treasure.
In Campo san Barnaba, walk away from the Grand canal (south) on Calle Lunga San Barnaba. On your left is a shop selling linen and lace. Annalie is a blond-ish woman of about 70, with good English. Give her our (Peter and Louise from Aus) regards please.
In Campo san Barnaba, as you pass towards Academe, there is the resteraunt casin d'Nobile, where we've eaten well, but it's not haught cuisine. I think they have a sister Casin d's Nobile on the Zattere.
Also in Calle Lunga St B is La Bitta, a restaurant that does not do fish. We've eaten well there. Last time, we sat down, and our waitress, who owns the place, said "It's good to see you again". We were a bit amazed, thought that she always says that to the tourists, until she said, "yes, two years ago. You sat over there one time with an older woman, then over there with a younger couple, and then there, the table that you are at, another time". She was right - and we'd booked in a different name. Worth a shot.
A spritz at Quadri is worth doing, two drinks will set you back about 22 euro, two glasses of wine about 16 or 18.
Chet's bar, in Campo Margerita, pours a good spritz. On your left, as you walk from Campo Margerita towards Santa Croce. 2.50 a shot.
In Campo San Giacomo, the restaurant Capitan Unico (or something like that) just next to the Coop supermarket is poorly reviewed. Although we did not eat there, the look of the place made us trust the reviews. La Zucca,( where we never got to eat at) is well reviewed by many, and is near Campo San Giacomo.
If there is a bloke on guitar and his mate on fiddle, doing a repertoire of about seven tunes in Calle del Tentor (Tentor means stone mason in Venetian dialect), could you give them a euro or two please. They might not be there in winter, but we came to know them well, and they would strike up the same tune every time they saw us. When we were leaving, they gave us a CD of their music. Despite it being atrocious, we play it when feeling nostalgic.
I've written boring trip reports in Venice, plus reports of the odd other thing. Click on my user name, scroll down and you'd find them.
Hope that this helps a little. Cheers
We had breakfast often at L' Archivo, a bar immediately in front of the Frari. Good coffee, pleasant staff.
We ate a couple of times at a place in Campo san Polo, called something like Beer or Bier. But it's not a beer place. It's on the north-east corner of the campo.
We like Campo Margerita - it was busy when we were there with students graduating, receiving ritual humiliation. However, I think that the places to eat there (one hesitates to call them restaurants) could be a bit ordinary. The Pugni bar, in front of the Pont de Pugni, as you cross from C. Margerita to C. San Barnaba, is one we like. If you go there around 1:00 PM, you'll see a very artistic guy having lunch just inside the window. Don't be surprised if he introduces himself. The bar is just beside the vegetable barge.
Fabio Bressalano does good photos - really top class stuff, and his shop is right beside the Bar de Pugni. I bought a photo from him four years ago - it is a treasure.
In Campo san Barnaba, walk away from the Grand canal (south) on Calle Lunga San Barnaba. On your left is a shop selling linen and lace. Annalie is a blond-ish woman of about 70, with good English. Give her our (Peter and Louise from Aus) regards please.
In Campo san Barnaba, as you pass towards Academe, there is the resteraunt casin d'Nobile, where we've eaten well, but it's not haught cuisine. I think they have a sister Casin d's Nobile on the Zattere.
Also in Calle Lunga St B is La Bitta, a restaurant that does not do fish. We've eaten well there. Last time, we sat down, and our waitress, who owns the place, said "It's good to see you again". We were a bit amazed, thought that she always says that to the tourists, until she said, "yes, two years ago. You sat over there one time with an older woman, then over there with a younger couple, and then there, the table that you are at, another time". She was right - and we'd booked in a different name. Worth a shot.
A spritz at Quadri is worth doing, two drinks will set you back about 22 euro, two glasses of wine about 16 or 18.
Chet's bar, in Campo Margerita, pours a good spritz. On your left, as you walk from Campo Margerita towards Santa Croce. 2.50 a shot.
In Campo San Giacomo, the restaurant Capitan Unico (or something like that) just next to the Coop supermarket is poorly reviewed. Although we did not eat there, the look of the place made us trust the reviews. La Zucca,( where we never got to eat at) is well reviewed by many, and is near Campo San Giacomo.
If there is a bloke on guitar and his mate on fiddle, doing a repertoire of about seven tunes in Calle del Tentor (Tentor means stone mason in Venetian dialect), could you give them a euro or two please. They might not be there in winter, but we came to know them well, and they would strike up the same tune every time they saw us. When we were leaving, they gave us a CD of their music. Despite it being atrocious, we play it when feeling nostalgic.
I've written boring trip reports in Venice, plus reports of the odd other thing. Click on my user name, scroll down and you'd find them.
Hope that this helps a little. Cheers
Aug 8th, 2013, 08:25 PM
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Peter, I just read thru your " boring" trip report. You are a great writer! Loved it and I am sure you are missing it, but what a treat, two months. Sounds like Venetians, a few anyway! Are missing you too! I made a few notes from yr reports and appreciate your time in putting this together! I'm determined to keep travel logs...hate that I forget so much! I am whittling the list down and quite interested in your apt. Sounds like the owner did you well. Thanks!!i
Aug 8th, 2013, 08:34 PM
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<i><font color=#555555>"the drawing room of Europe is filled with cruise ship day trippers."</font></i>
Not Christmas week.
<i><font color=#555555>"Listen, Ohio honey, I just walked through Piazza San Marco two weeks ago"</font></i>
I've never been to Venice in July. I would never go to Venice in July (or August). Too many tourists with no money visit Venice in summer.
<i><font color=#555555>"For someone who occasionally visits the Strada Nova, it is funny that you know exactly where the LUSH store is."</font></i>
And I think of you every time I pass the smelly place.
I've been buying coffee beans at Torrefazione Marchi for many years. I know Strada Nova well.
Not Christmas week.
<i><font color=#555555>"Listen, Ohio honey, I just walked through Piazza San Marco two weeks ago"</font></i>
I've never been to Venice in July. I would never go to Venice in July (or August). Too many tourists with no money visit Venice in summer.
<i><font color=#555555>"For someone who occasionally visits the Strada Nova, it is funny that you know exactly where the LUSH store is."</font></i>
And I think of you every time I pass the smelly place.
I've been buying coffee beans at Torrefazione Marchi for many years. I know Strada Nova well.
Aug 9th, 2013, 01:31 AM
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On our last visit, we rented a flat in a tiny calle behind the Arsenale. It seemed to be an area where ordinary Venetians lived. It's a reasonably short walk to St. Marks.
We did our supermarket shopping in Via Garibaldi and occasionally ate there, but there was also a little campo with small shops.
We did our supermarket shopping in Via Garibaldi and occasionally ate there, but there was also a little campo with small shops.
