Venice: Santa Lucia to Vallaresso Boat Stop
Dec 24th, 2009, 12:11 AM
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If it were not for having to get from S Lucia to Vallaresso, you could do it all with a 12 hour ticket. I don't think you have said how long your stay in Venice is to be [sorry if I've missed it]. If it is to be only a couple of days, then buy a 24 hour or 36 hour ticket when you arrive (or more than 7 days before you arrive, to get a discount). If you are there for a week or more, buy a single ticket when you arrive, then buy a 12 hour ticket the day before you leave (so long as rain is not forecast). Personally speaking, I would lug my luggage on foot rather than spend 6.50€ for one trip - but I am very, very stingy. Pack light! No! Lighter than that!
Dec 24th, 2009, 12:38 AM
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Thanks, however the stay in Venice is eight day period, so I am having trouble justifying any transport passes that cover that amount of time for those four trips.
But perhaps I can be enlightened otherwise. I will preface that our itinerary is pretty much set and any other water transport would be an unforeseen contingency.
Much obliged for any further assistance...bdj
But perhaps I can be enlightened otherwise. I will preface that our itinerary is pretty much set and any other water transport would be an unforeseen contingency.
Much obliged for any further assistance...bdj
Dec 24th, 2009, 02:58 AM
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You can do San Michele/Murano/Burano/Torcello in a single day if you know what you are doing. Tagging on a trip to San Giogio (presumably you know about the campanile) and Giudecca near the end of the day is not out of the question. Finish with a cruise down (or up) the Grand Canal. If you start at 9 a.m. and finish at 9 p.m. you will not want more time, imo. I know it's only 2€ more for a 24 hour ticket, but are you really going to use the extra 12 hours? The journey from Murano to Burano takes quite a while. The vaps can be noisy if you are near the engines. [I mention this as my wife had a headache by the time we got to Burano.] You need to be fit and determined - don't keep stopping for refreshments or you'll never get it done []
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Dec 24th, 2009, 06:01 AM
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bdj,
Looks like you might combine single ride tickets with a travelcard card for a shorter period of time as Bert states, especially for the day you will visit Murano and Burano.
To my mind, part of the issue is how much you like to walk, and you may not be aware of how much you enjoy walking in Venice until you are there and start walking around Venice up and down bridges all day long. On some visits, I've spent days in Venice and never rode a single boat. On other visits with friends who didn't want to walk all day, they (and I) enjoyed a number of rides both day and night on the Grand Canal and to other areas. In this instance, having a travelcard for part of our visit (for 36 hours as part of a 5-night visit) meant that we never questioned whether or not to get on a vaporetto--if we saw it, we got on and had an adventure.
You are not proposing 4 trips. Your proposed schedule of trips will probably be at least 6 trip, possibly 7:
One trip from Santa Lucia to Vallaresso
One trip to San Giorgio Maggiore
One trip from San Giorgio Maggiore (new ticket needed if you stay longer than 60 minutes allowed on your ticket)
One trip to Murano
One trip Murano to Burano (new ticket needed if you stay longer than 60 minutes on Murano, keeping in mind that Burano is a 30-minute ride from Murano)
One trip Burano to central Venice
One trip Vallaresso to Marco Polo Airport (You could use a travelcard for this by combing a vaporetto to Piazzale Roma with a local bus to the airport, but more direct from Vallaresso would be the Alilaguna water bus, a different system from the vaporetti)
6 trips x 6.50 euros per trip = 39 euros
A 7-day travel card is 50 euros. If you rode two more times you would be saving money with a travelcard and never have to think about whether or not to get on a boat during your entire visit. As Bert suggests and mentioned earlier, you might also buy single rides and just get a 12-hour card for your Murano/Burano day.
Looks like you might combine single ride tickets with a travelcard card for a shorter period of time as Bert states, especially for the day you will visit Murano and Burano.
To my mind, part of the issue is how much you like to walk, and you may not be aware of how much you enjoy walking in Venice until you are there and start walking around Venice up and down bridges all day long. On some visits, I've spent days in Venice and never rode a single boat. On other visits with friends who didn't want to walk all day, they (and I) enjoyed a number of rides both day and night on the Grand Canal and to other areas. In this instance, having a travelcard for part of our visit (for 36 hours as part of a 5-night visit) meant that we never questioned whether or not to get on a vaporetto--if we saw it, we got on and had an adventure.
You are not proposing 4 trips. Your proposed schedule of trips will probably be at least 6 trip, possibly 7:
One trip from Santa Lucia to Vallaresso
One trip to San Giorgio Maggiore
One trip from San Giorgio Maggiore (new ticket needed if you stay longer than 60 minutes allowed on your ticket)
One trip to Murano
One trip Murano to Burano (new ticket needed if you stay longer than 60 minutes on Murano, keeping in mind that Burano is a 30-minute ride from Murano)
One trip Burano to central Venice
One trip Vallaresso to Marco Polo Airport (You could use a travelcard for this by combing a vaporetto to Piazzale Roma with a local bus to the airport, but more direct from Vallaresso would be the Alilaguna water bus, a different system from the vaporetti)
6 trips x 6.50 euros per trip = 39 euros
A 7-day travel card is 50 euros. If you rode two more times you would be saving money with a travelcard and never have to think about whether or not to get on a boat during your entire visit. As Bert suggests and mentioned earlier, you might also buy single rides and just get a 12-hour card for your Murano/Burano day.
Dec 24th, 2009, 07:07 AM
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If you go to www.veniceconnected.com, you may be able, depending on the dates, to get a 7 day travel card for less than 50 euros. Do check. Have a nice trip.
Dec 24th, 2009, 11:17 AM
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hi bdj,
i echo what ellenm has said, but go further than that - the boats can help you explore the parts that just walking cannot reach!
we spet a week in Venice about 2 years ago [click on my screen name for my trip report "we went to venice and we saw"] and we walked more than we would otherwise have done because we had 7 day passes and knew that if we got tired we could just hop on a boat.
for example, in one day we caught the boat to Burano from the fondamente nove, had lunch, got the boat back to Murano, explored, got another boat back to the giardino, walked back to San Marco, then caught the no 2 back to the rialto. without a boat pass, that would have cost a fortune.
another day, we caught a boat down to San Marco, then across to the Zattere via santa maria della salute, another boat across to the guidecca, walked along to catch the boat to San georgio, went up the campanile and had some lunch [which took longer than 60 mins] and got the boat back across to the Zattere.
get the picture? a 7 day pass will cost you at most €7 per day. that's only just over the cost of one single trip. riding the boats is IMHO an integral part of beng in Vencie, and an absolute boon to those if us who like to explore.
regards, ann
i echo what ellenm has said, but go further than that - the boats can help you explore the parts that just walking cannot reach!
we spet a week in Venice about 2 years ago [click on my screen name for my trip report "we went to venice and we saw"] and we walked more than we would otherwise have done because we had 7 day passes and knew that if we got tired we could just hop on a boat.
for example, in one day we caught the boat to Burano from the fondamente nove, had lunch, got the boat back to Murano, explored, got another boat back to the giardino, walked back to San Marco, then caught the no 2 back to the rialto. without a boat pass, that would have cost a fortune.
another day, we caught a boat down to San Marco, then across to the Zattere via santa maria della salute, another boat across to the guidecca, walked along to catch the boat to San georgio, went up the campanile and had some lunch [which took longer than 60 mins] and got the boat back across to the Zattere.
get the picture? a 7 day pass will cost you at most €7 per day. that's only just over the cost of one single trip. riding the boats is IMHO an integral part of beng in Vencie, and an absolute boon to those if us who like to explore.
regards, ann
Dec 25th, 2009, 03:17 AM
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I'm with annhig. Get the passes and cease to worry about each individual trip. Maybe you want to try a restaurant out of the San Marco area (and I would!) - that could be 2 vaporetto trips each just for that evening. Or, you want to drop some shopping at your hotel quickly, then go out again. You will find the boat system very useful, but not if you're paying 13 euros each time the two of you use it.
Also, walking is wonderful in Venice but sometimes you can weary of always having to cover the same routes to get anywhere and the vaporetto gives you the freedom to explore new areas.
Even on a snowy Christmas day in the UK, I am happy to think about Venice!
Also, walking is wonderful in Venice but sometimes you can weary of always having to cover the same routes to get anywhere and the vaporetto gives you the freedom to explore new areas.
Even on a snowy Christmas day in the UK, I am happy to think about Venice!
Dec 25th, 2009, 04:55 AM
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On my last trip to Venice I didn't use a vaporetto at all for the 1st two days (excepting the arrival trip from the train station to my apartment). Part of the joy of Venice is exploring on foot. If you are in Venice for a few days then you may find yourself wanting to venture further out later on.
I did buy a pass for the last 36hrs (maybe it was for 48hrs) that was timed to include my departure vaporetto ride back to the train station. Having the flexibility to use the pass to simply hop on a boat was nice, and we used the pass to explore some of the outer islands & ride the Grand Canal a couple of times. The cost of 6.50 euros x 4 people (or ~ $36 USD) per ride is is steep for a casual ride.
I did buy a pass for the last 36hrs (maybe it was for 48hrs) that was timed to include my departure vaporetto ride back to the train station. Having the flexibility to use the pass to simply hop on a boat was nice, and we used the pass to explore some of the outer islands & ride the Grand Canal a couple of times. The cost of 6.50 euros x 4 people (or ~ $36 USD) per ride is is steep for a casual ride.
Dec 27th, 2009, 09:55 PM
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Wonderful responses, much obliged. Couple of factors that may or may not alter suggestions and would deeply appreciate additional feedback.
Walking is the intent when possible.
The trip to Marco Polo will be on the eighth day and we will be using the Alilaguna.
The combination trip to Murano & Burano and return is not a priority and if anything on the itinerary is to be bumped, it would be that.
Finally, would someone explain this from the ACTV website and how it differs from others:
1,10 € - SINGLE FARE WATERBORNE SERVICES
Thanks in advance…bdj
Walking is the intent when possible.
The trip to Marco Polo will be on the eighth day and we will be using the Alilaguna.
The combination trip to Murano & Burano and return is not a priority and if anything on the itinerary is to be bumped, it would be that.
Finally, would someone explain this from the ACTV website and how it differs from others:
1,10 € - SINGLE FARE WATERBORNE SERVICES
Thanks in advance…bdj
Dec 28th, 2009, 12:56 AM
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The 1.10 euro fare is for people who hold a Cartavenezia identity card, free to residents and expensive to tourists. It cost 40 euro in 2007, don't know how much now. The holder must carry it at all times to show with the ticket when an inspector asks.
Dec 30th, 2009, 03:35 AM
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> 50 cents unless the fare has changed recently.
Last week, it was still €0.50.
On the other hand, the public toilet costs €1.50 now (or maybe since sometime now?) when I checked at Accademia bridge and on Murano. I wish they had a reduced price for men's quick needs. Anyway I used toilet only at bars for the price of a coffee or a glass of wine (about €1 standing at the bar so cheaper than using a public toilet).
Last week, it was still €0.50.
On the other hand, the public toilet costs €1.50 now (or maybe since sometime now?) when I checked at Accademia bridge and on Murano. I wish they had a reduced price for men's quick needs. Anyway I used toilet only at bars for the price of a coffee or a glass of wine (about €1 standing at the bar so cheaper than using a public toilet).
Apr 12th, 2010, 01:45 AM
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Regarding the last stop on vaporetto lines 1 & 2, do they vary? From what I see they both end at either Piazzale Roma or Lido. If I'm incorrect any assistance would be most appreciated.
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:19 AM
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bdj,
Line 1 is as you describe, moving from Piazzale Roma to Lido along the Grand Canal and back the way it came.
Line 2 is a circular route that never reaches Lido.
At the official website, you can click at left on a particular route and see its path on the map.
http://www.actv.it/en
Line 1 is as you describe, moving from Piazzale Roma to Lido along the Grand Canal and back the way it came.
Line 2 is a circular route that never reaches Lido.
At the official website, you can click at left on a particular route and see its path on the map.
http://www.actv.it/en
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:11 PM
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Thanks for the link. So from my original question: Getting from Santa Lucia (Ferrovia) to Valleresso on Line 2, if I am reading the interactive route map correctly, then "Valleresso" will be the stated last stop.
Thus, from Ferrovia to Valleresso, the last stop for Line 1 will be indicated as "Lido" and for Line 2 as "Valleresso".
If I am incorrect any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thus, from Ferrovia to Valleresso, the last stop for Line 1 will be indicated as "Lido" and for Line 2 as "Valleresso".
If I am incorrect any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
