zebec

Note the orange, revolver-shaped island in Cappadocia. Makes one curious.
I am done. the curious orange

thursdaysd

Thanks Croesus. Wonder whether they are under the same oppression as the people in Xinjiang province. There might should be a small dot for Xi'an, too.

Croesus

Descendants of Crimean Tatars who live in Eskişehir province.

otherchelebi

A very new tweet to be confused about the political & economic situation in Turkey

otherchelebi

New mound found in ancient Dara

MARDİN

A new mound has come to light during the excavation and restoration work in the ancient city of Dara in the southeastern province of Mardin.
Hüseyin Metin, a lecturer at the Kafkas University’s Archaeology Department and the head of the excavations, said: “We had finds dating back to the fourth century B.C. from previous excavations, but during this year’s works, we found a new mound. With new findings, we determined that the city’s history dates back to 3,000 B.C. It is a very important development.”

The new mound in Dara, the last stronghold of the Byzantine Empire in the southeast, dated the ancient city thousands of years ago.

Noting that the period of the sixth century was especially important for the region, Metin said: “The widest known history of Dara is from the sixth century A.D. and later periods. Especially the period of the sixth century is very important for the region because the largest garrison city was also a civil settlement and political administration center, but the subject we pay the most attention to is how much older this city could be.

“From the previous excavations, we had finds until the fourth 4th century A.D., but this year we had a different work to find settlements from this period around the city. And we found a mound in the southwestern part of the city, almost adjacent to the city walls. In this settlement area, which we call ‘Aba Tumulus,’ we obtained ceramics from the Hellenistic period in 3,000 B.C. With new findings, we determined that the history of the city dates back to 3,000 B.C. Thus, we can say that the city is not only a Byzantine settlement of the sixth century, but one of the places that has been continuously inhabited in the region since the prehistoric ages,” Metin added.

Stating that Dara has a history of approximately 5,000 years, Metin said: “The materials we have are also from the Early Bronze Age. These can be found in mound-type settlements, but the general feature of this is as follows: We see that there was an uninterrupted settlement here from the Early Bronze Age to the Hellenistic period. In this respect, this year’s data has been extremely productive, especially in terms of understanding the early history of the city.”

bilboburgler

The turk movement out of Crimea is especially nasty as the CCCP deported the majority of the population for daring to be starved by Moscow back in the 20s/30s they are drifting back and add to the confusion over who owns what in the area which Putin has taken advantage of.

Lira all over the place at the moment, must make for an interesting time but glad to see you are still enjoying life.

otherchelebi

Bilbo, i have learned to view most that this crazy, absurd life puts in my my view with a stiff upper lip especially when when facing adversity, finding solace in classical Greek or my grand children, whichever is more popular at the time.
Turks have moved in and out of Crimea for centuries. Some of them have been assimilated, but some have tried to keep their racial identities. Both groups can be used as political instruments by Turkey, Russia, United States and smaller players.

bilboburgler

5 years ago I spent a bit of the winter planting thousands of snowdrop bulbs around town. Snowdrops are the flowers that Brits used before WW1 in rememberence of the dead killed in battle especially after the waste of life in the Crimea in 185? in the spring the battle fields were covered in these small white flowers.

Croesus

Some interesting finds in Çeşme from the time of the eruption of Santorini.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/h...test-disasters

And here - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ed-Turkey.html

zebec

So fascinating, thank you Croesus. Was just pondering about this issue of 'no human remains found from the eruption' while working on a Folegandros photo essay TR 2 days ago.
And I had no idea that Cesme was that far north.
I am done. the bones

otherchelebi

Interestin news: An international jazz festival is organized at Kas, in Southern turkey, for August 27 and 28. It is a great location with quite a few natural, and architectural venues as well as good bohemian type restaurants and cafes. Closest airport is Dalaman, but can also be reached via Antalya airport.

annhig

Thank you OC. Are you a jazz fan? It's not my favourite type of music but the area sounds very interesting.

otherchelebi

annhig, I enjoy most music, even country and western. However, i am not partial to Baroque and Classical Turkish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%C5%9F Also Fabulous Family Fearlesly Meet Lykians (reprint of 2010 trip) which you have read multiple times.

mjs

Ahmet: Good to see you are still in good spirits. I assume your wife, daughters, grandchildren and cat are all well? Was considering returning to Turkey in June and visiting other parts of your country. Shocked however at the prices at the Four Seasons as its double what I paid in ? 2014 yet the Lira is so much cheaper!

otherchelebi

After five years of keeping the well known Turkish philanthropist i jail and restricting freedoms of the former president of the Turkish association of Architects plus sixteen others intellectuals and media personalities, the final verdict was given today. The detained were found guilty of attempt to overturn the Turkish government, with Osman Kavala receiving an aggravated life sentence (with no possibility of parole) and all the others were given 18 year jail sentences for aiding abetting.

These judgements followed a total lack of evidence and decisions by the Turkish Constitutional Court and the International Court of Justice to release all.

Is there further possibility of appeal?
Will Turkey lose its membership in the Council of European, the European Parliament and at the International Court of Justice?

Will there be cheering among the world powers which favor and support regulated justice systems of authoritarian states?
Will this affect the next national elections in Turkey?
Will it weaken or strengthen the Turkish Lira in world markets?

otherchelebi

After five years of keeping the well known Turkish philanthropist i jail and restricting freedoms of the former president of the Turkish association of Architects plus sixteen others intellectuals and media personalities, the final verdict was given today. The detained were found guilty of attempt to overturn the Turkish government, with Osman Kavala receiving an aggravated life sentence (with no possibility of parole) and all the others were given 18 year jail sentences for aiding abetting.

These judgements followed a total lack of evidence and decisions by the Turkish Constitutional Court and the International Court of Justice to release all.

Is there further possibility of appeal?
Will Turkey lose its membership in the Council of European, the European Parliament and at the International Court of Justice?

Will there be cheering among the world powers which favor and support regulated justice systems of authoritarian states?
Will this affect the next national elections in Turkey?
Will it weaken or strengthen the Turkish Lira in world markets?

some photos of the revolutionaries in 2013

annhig

Sad times, OC. Also here where a raft of authoritarian measures were voted into law yesterday. The Vandals are at the door.

thursdaysd

I thought that was a US problem, although here I would add toxic religion to the authoritarianism. I should maybe go read the Guardian... I've been thinking I should move back to the UK, despite Boris and Brexit, but maybe not?

otherchelebi

Annhig, Thursdayd, Tell me please if what we feel and think are due to our age and not due to the escalating idiocy, mindlessness and mental disorders among the populace, everywhere in the world!

I am afraid that my grandchildren will grow up thinking that all that happens is normal.

And, unfortunately we cannot escape the cosmic flare or space dust or the curse of an evil wizard.

annhig

TBF Thursdaysd I'd see it as quite a close run thing at the moment. If the Dems manage to win the midterms then I think that the US has a chance of dragging itself out of the clutches of Trump and his cult, but otherwise the outlook is rather grim. [do you follow Heather Cox Richardson ? very good but rather scary at times!]. Here the opposition has a couple of years in which to recognise that they need to unite to defeat the Tories; if we don't succeed the next time we may not get another chance as they will inevitably follow the Reps' tactics of election rigging and gerrymandering. So I think what I'm saying is if you can, give it a couple of years or so.