Thank you, thank you, thank you - great report and we will be dining on r. de Rosiers next month on your rocommendation.

To MarieVia,

from the New York Times 2.0

PARIS, Nov. 30 (1900) -- Oscar Wilde died at 3 o'clock this afternoon in the Maison du Perier, Due des Beaux Arts, in the Latin Quarter. It is a small, obscure hotel, at which Wilde had been living for several months under the name of Manmoth.

I've also heard that he stated "I'm dying beyond my means."

To SS:

Great photos and excellent advice. Thanks for taking the time to share. I am now enticed to try another hotel neighborhood besides the sixth.
How do you stay so thin with all those pastries? The walking, I guess...
Hi to LS.
Your friend BQ

This was a very nice report, and I was particularly thrilled to see that some people know how to avoid the $9 beer or hot chocolate that seem to prey on others.

Thanks SS re: bird market observations - I think I was imagining what you were imagining parrots and peacocks and poultry. So I think we will still stroll through, but I won't "sell it" to the kids

Thanks for the reporting. Just planning our first trip to Paris this summer so all these detailed trip reports help to give me a feel for the city and what we might accomplish in our 7 days there. I have enjoyed the read.

Very nice report! Thank you for posting it.

FYI...

The Hotel de Nice site seems to be back up and running:

http://www.hoteldenice.com/index.php

SS

ssander - thanks for posting this. I particularly enjoyed the photos from your Art Nouveau/Art Deco walk. If I understood you correctly, this was a guided walk from the Frommer's guidebook?

yk...

Not one of Frommers' regular guidebooks...a book on walks:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...pf_rd_i=507846

24 Great Walks in Paris

Actually published by the British Auto Associtaion, and may be the exact same book as:

http://www.amazon.com/History-Myster...3587604&sr=1-1

Paris: History & Mystery

The 24 Walks book was out of stock at Amazon last week, so I ordered the BAA book. When it comes, I'll let you know if it's the same one as I checked out of the library before I went on my trip.

SS

Thanks, SS! I've bookmarked the atelier site for future reference. Again, super report and I hope you have marketed your work!

Thanks for the links, ssander! How many walks did you do from the book on this trip? Are they listed by arrondisements or listed by "themes"? Do you feel that there is enough description of sights along the routes, and are the directions adequate? It seems like it can't be too thorough if it has 24 different walks, unless the book is really thick...

[I'm not going to Paris anytime soon, but it'll be a good resource when we go next time - who knows when?]

yk...

We did four walks on this trip. Each one has a sort-of theme. The directions are excellent -- a map for each. We found the descriptions OK, but I suppose they could have been more detailed. I suggest you check the book out of a local library if possible and judge for yourself. The walks in the "regular" Frommers' books tend to be a little more detailed as I remember.

SS

yk...

The British Auto Assn book, Paris History & Mistery arrived today, and it is the exact same book as the Frommers 24 Great Walks in Paris (with a tougher cover).

So, even though Amazon (and every other seller I looked at) is out of stock for the Frommers book, you can get the AA book from one of the third-party vendors.

SS

Thanks for the update, SS. Much appreciated!

Bookmarking to read later - this looks like a really good trip report!

ssander: I wonder if this (". . . and something that looked like a Spanish churro, but bigger and with chocolate inside . . . ") is "une patisserie suisse" that I had for breakfast on about half of our mornings in Paris in May 08.

Kerouac: You wrote, "I was particularly thrilled to see that some people know how to avoid the $9 beer or hot chocolate that seem to prey on others." We found that the one (only) thing McDonald's is good for (apart from les toilettes) is their beverages. The price for Diet Coke, for example, is very reasonable.

Thanks for the excellent report. I learned a lot from your observations. WRT bird market...yes, it was disappointing (I don't know what I expected). But it's a kind of a very different thing to do on Sunday morning and close to many other attractions. I planned my sightseeing around the area that morning. I think it's worth seeing once. I've never seen anything quite like it anywhere. And it's free. Go for it.

d_claude_bear...

Yes...we tend to be a little embarassed about getting coffee at McD or StarB...but it really is the best way to get takeout coffee early in the morning to bring back to our hotel.

The McDonald's (near the corner of R. du Renard and R. de la Verrerie) was a morning coffee place on our 2007 trip - we stayed on R. Simon le Franc then. A small was 1.10 EUR then.

This time, the Starbucks on R. de Bourg Tibourg (I think) was closer. A pretty large one was about 3 EUR -- large enough to share with my wife...we don't drink a lot of coffee, as do some folks.

SS

ssander--We stayed in an apartment near Gare d'Austerlitz and often started our day from the Metro or RER there. The McD's across the street was a good source of coffee if we had not made some in the apartment. Twice I sat and sipped a Diet Coke while reading in the McD's in the shopping center in/under the main office tower at Place d'Italie while my wife explored the shops there. It was overrun with teenagers both times but otherwise pleasant--but definitely not the same as the cafe scene.