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Jul 8th, 2013, 07:17 AM
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Train Naples to Rome ?

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I have been looking into trains from Naples to Rome in mid August and have seen mention of reduced 'mini' fares in forums. I'm willing to book in advance to save money on a faster train but would not be willing to pay the full amt of €45 per person for the fast rain, so my other option is Inter city train which I've read is €22 each. However when I go onto italiarail.com I don't see mention of 'mini' fare prices. I see I can get an intercity train at a 20% Family discount for €72 second class - how is this a discount if it should be €22?

I'm sure Im missing something obvious here and thanks for any help in making this clearer!

Im just wondering if we should just but the ticket at the station on the way!

Any discounts for 13 yr olds?
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Jul 8th, 2013, 07:19 AM
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I can also get a standard economy ticket on the FRECCIAROSSA for €101 - I assume this is a good price? Worth it for the 1hr 10min travel time? Or lacking in scenery?
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Jul 8th, 2013, 07:29 AM
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>>>and have seen mention of reduced 'mini' fares in forums.<<<

Mini fares is old info. They no longer exist. Current discounts will be Supereconomy or Economy on Trenitalia. Full price (45€ fast train) is Base (you can walk up and get this price).

>>>However when I go onto italiarail.com I don't see mention of 'mini' fare prices.<<<

I would try Trenitalia first which is the actual Italian train company. I've read several problems with people using Italiarail (a reseller). Trenitalia is having a kids travel free promo this summer (til mid Sept), but it can't be combined with other discounts. It might be cheapest to look for the SuperE or E fares.

The cheapest fast train prices I'm seeing for a random date in Aug (you didn't state your date) is 21.50€ and for the IC train, 9€.
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Jul 8th, 2013, 07:36 AM
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Travelling on Aug 19th kyboubon..thanks for the help, I'll look this up right now
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Jul 8th, 2013, 07:58 AM
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€48 seems to be the cheapest IC on that date...
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Jul 8th, 2013, 08:26 AM
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I would try pricing as all adults and see if you get better prices.

There is another train company that started a few years ago, Italorail. Their trains depart Napoli Centrale and arrive Roma Tiburtina, not Termini. Tiburtina is a major station on the metro and a major bus hub. You might find discounts with them and their trains are only a couple of years old.

http://www.italotreno.it/en/Pages/default.aspx

48€ for how many people? I find a price of 88€ for the fast train for 2 adults and 2 children (not clear what you are tying to price) for your date.
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Jul 8th, 2013, 08:27 AM
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Do read the stuff below - but perhaps also tell us quite who are in the party you're buying for...

Despite what's shown on the English version, the Italian one says that the TI "Familia" offer covers kids aged up to 15...

http://www.trenitalia.com/cms/v/inde...003f16f90aRCRD

http://www.trenitalia.com/cms/v/inde...008916f90aRCRD

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For 2 adults and one 13 YO, that 48 Euro price wouldn't be too bad at all....as long as you're reasonably sure that you'll be able to catch the train concerned!

It's certainly better than any of the discounted fares for 3 adults for that day... and the IC is our preferred way of getting between Naples and Rome - with a much more interesting route than that followed by the fastest trains, the Freccias and those of their rival...

Perhaps noting that Italo Treno have deals that may be of interest for travel on that VERY BUSY day, if you're OK with arriving at Roma Tiburtina station, rather than Termini?

Start here....

http://www.italotreno.it/EN/Pages/default.aspx

... but if you need help pricing the alternatives, then we'll need to know how many adults and kids... with ages for the latter!

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Jul 8th, 2013, 09:09 AM
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Hi all, details: Two adults and one teen age 13 travelling on the 19th August not fussy what time although I would like to get to Rome for early afternoon and not have to leave too early... ( or is better to travel before it gets very hot?), the €48 was for 2 adults 1 child on intercity, however I then read that a child was 12 and under so when I changed selection to 3 adults it brought it up around €58 which would only be a few euro saving on the €22 per head for intercity if I just buy ticket on the day?

We are staying near the Patheon so would be other station be as convienent do you think?

Essentially I would like to travel on the fast train but am not willing to pay twice the price for the pleasure so if I can't get a discount I'll just go for IC
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Jul 8th, 2013, 09:09 AM
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2nd class fine too! Will check that other company now...
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Jul 8th, 2013, 09:57 AM
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Man in Seat 61's links were for family discount. Here is the kids travel free link also.

http://www.trenitalia.com/cms/v/inde...008916f90aRCRD

Personally, I detest the IC trains. I would rather ride an old R train than an IC train, but an R train would take much longer.

I'm sure there is some bus service, but doubt it would be much cheaper than the IC train and no faster.
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Jul 8th, 2013, 10:50 AM
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Italo has a summer promotion where kids up to age 15 are free until August 31. It's a super nice train and goes from Naples Centrale to Rome Tiburtina every hour.

http://www.italotreno.it/EN/timetabl.../overview.aspx
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Jul 8th, 2013, 11:26 AM
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I don't think the 12 year age is accurate. Trenitalia tends to update the Italian version better than the English version. You can see on the kids travel free the age is under 15.

***Bimbi gratis is the offer from Trenitalia dedicated to children under 15 years of age travelling with at least one adult, in groups from 2 to 5 people. ***

Also the family discount on the Italian version says 15 where the English version still has 12 (what is used to be).

***L'offerta Familia è rivolta a gruppi o famiglie composti da 2 a 5 persone in cui siano presenti almeno 1 maggiorenne e 1 bambino fino a 15 anni non compiuti.***

http://www.trenitalia.com/cms/v/inde...008916f90aRCRD

There are also some discounts listed in Italian, but not in English (none to help you though).
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Jul 9th, 2013, 12:17 AM
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Of the day's choices, we find the 10:12 IC train to be the most convenient when visiting Rome from here on Ischia - with a sea crossing to do first, it's then just right... as we can be checked-in at the hotel and out again in time for lunch!

To catch that one you'd probably need to leave Sant'Agnello at around the same 08:30 time that we do - with an hour's ride to the 'Napoli Garibaldi' station on the Circumvesuviana train...

http://www.eavcampania.it/web/sites/...sorrento_0.pdf

Much nicer route than used by the Freccias and the Italo Treno services - who take the new, more direct, trackway... with lots more tunnels, travelling for miles and miles between glass safety screens...

http://www.pbase.com/isolaverde/image/129591563

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As maritime hiccups are always possible, we rarely book our tickets in advance, but - for travel on so busy an August day - I'd encourage you to do so!

Using what's currently available for that train on your travel date as an example, rather than accepting the deal initially offered ("Economy" level tickets for two adults and one child for €48 ), instead click on "Select", and then on " VIEW OTHER PRICES AND SERVICES..... ", and then "Continue"

On the next screen, reset the entry in the "Offer" column for each person to "Bimbi Gratis" - to eventually come up with a Total of €49....

By paying that extra 1 Euro, you'll get the more-transferable "Base" level tickets... just in case anything might go awry!

T&C and such stuff, here...
http://www.trenitalia.com/cms/v/inde...008916f90aRCRD

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Other bits and pieces:

1 - if not sure about negotiating the station in Naples, do have a look at this - bearing in mind that it was written for people travelling in the other direction!

http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...-pompei.cfmthe Pantheon area.


2 - the "some bus service" is provided by the Marozzi line, who have two going from Sorrento that day, at 06:00 and 17:00 - arriving at the Tiburtina bus depot (adjacent to the train station), some 4 hours later. It's more or less non-stop - with no changes required, just a short 'comfort break' en route. One-way tickets, €18... but very possibly no reduction for kids?

If interested, have a read through this thread..... with detailed advice on how to use the Marozzi website in reply 28:

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTop..._Campania.html

Although not at all a fan of travelling for hours by bus (we English would probably call their vehicles "coaches" - as they're a step up from the sort used for urban public transport), for this particular journey the simplicity might well sway me - even if the morning departure does call for setting out at around 5AM.... however the rest of the family may take some convincing?


3 - Tiburtina station, and that bus depot, are a mile or two east of Termini - which might add, depending on the time of day, perhaps 4 or 5 Euro and 10/15 minutes to the cab ride over to the Pantheon?

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Jul 9th, 2013, 06:15 AM
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Guys - you are all a wealth of information! I will check these links and hopefully I'll be sorted soon. Much appreciated!
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Jul 9th, 2013, 07:04 AM
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Peter - Followed all your instructions and see the €49...the very fast one is coming in at €86!
Is it likely they will sell out - am I safer to book this now you think?
I take it I could walk up to buy the €22 tickets and that price would be gone on the day - is that it?
We can't check in to our apartment in Rome until 2 so no point being there to early with luggage which is unfortunate - I'd like an early start to our first day in Rome!
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Jul 9th, 2013, 07:21 AM
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The walk up price for the IC train is 24.50€ per person. Walk up price for the AV train is 43€ per person. A particular train could sell out and you could have to wait for the next one. The AV trains run two per hour in the mornings. The IC trains, not as often.

->>>Followed all your instructions and see the €49...the very fast one is coming in at €86!<<<

Similar to what I posted earlier in the thread for 2 adults 2 children.

***48€ for how many people? I find a price of 88€ for the fast train for 2 adults and 2 children (not clear what you are tying to price) for your date.***

>>>the "some bus service" is provided by the Marozzi line, who have two going from Sorrento that day, a<<<

The OP said they are departing Naples, not Sorrento. Marozzi does not stop in Naples.
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Jul 9th, 2013, 07:50 AM
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thanks kybourbon that clarifies it for me! Think the bus is out- way to much time to spend travelling when time is precious!
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Jul 9th, 2013, 09:07 AM
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Tickets bought - thanks for all the help!
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Perhaps too late now... but, as a solution to your "too early, with luggage" issue - how about the service these people offer? Have them meet you on arrival, and bring it to your apartment whenever suits you best!

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTop...ome_Lazio.html

Full descriptions from several users elsewhere in the thread - but note reply 2, re the discount for holders of the RomaPass, which you could purchase whilst at Termini station... from the Tourist Office there, also a good place to pick up a whole range of maps, leaflets etc etc!!!

http://www.romatermini.com/en/info/d...council-office

There are also LLO facilities at Termini, but with the obvious drawback of having to return there again to collect your belongings - see:

http://www.romatermini.com/en/servic...osito-bagagli/

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Take it you're OK re the journey from Sant'Agnello to Naples?

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