Do European women complain like American women complain when men don't leave the sitter down on the toilet? What is the practice in Europe?

Toilets in Europe?

I know Europe is backward but even French tourist sites must have toilets even if the peasants still relieve themselves into buckets and toss the waste out the front door.

Roger: Yes, European women DO complain as well just like American women! ;-) <BR>Are we wrong about that??

So you want us to be the only ones to put our fingers on a dirty toilet seat? It's so easy just to be cooperative and civil. If you need the seat up, put it up. If you ned it down, put it down.The world does not need more complaints.

OK, time to join the fray. I've always put the seat AND THE COVER down. Women seem to want you to put the seat down but REFUSE to close the cover. <BR>Cheers <BR>Art <BR>

Well, if European women complain at all about this, I suspect they don't complain <I>exactly</I> like American women...since most of them probably complain in a language other than English. :~)

I don't know what kind of nitwit would sit on a toilet and not look to see if the sitter was down?

Capo: So true! One can only complain real good in the first language. <BR>So this said, I would complain in (Swiss) German. But, if necessary, I could have a try as well in some other languages...

Now I've got my dukes up! Art, I never leave the COVER up. Although once I had a co-worker almost quit her job because she wanted the cover left up and I kept putting it down. She got the boss involved; said it made the bathroom stink. Go figure THAT out. I wanted to laugh out loud when I heard what her problem was, but I tried to take her feelings seriously. So, I left the cover up for her. Should have let her quit, since it turned out that that wasn't her only serious mental problem. The real annoying thing these days are hotels with toilets that have no cover. What's going on there? Don't they know my mother dropped her bottom plate (teeth) in the toilet as it flushed? Not putting the lid down can be dangerous. Her kids paid - and PAID - for a long time. Okay, that's all my potty humor.

Shanna, I surrender, I surrender. I'll always leave the sitter and cover down. No mas!!!

Ursula, if my girlfriend complained in German, I'd at least understand <I>some</I> words she's saying...so I've asked her to please do all her complaining in Russian. :~)

Capo: So, it seems you do not like to understand when women complain.. or maybe Russian does sound very nice to you! It surely does... and complaining in a foreign language sounds always somehow exotic, doesn'it? ;-)

Try putting a layer of clear plastic film like Saran wrap tightly over the bowl. Lower the seat, turn out the light and wait for the laughs to start.

Crusty, now wait ... why didnt I think of that? <BR> <BR>Oh wait. <BR> <BR>I did. <BR> <BR>Back in school. <BR> <BR>Are you still there by any chance?

Why yes! As a matter of fact I am, but the students have left for the day.

In our house the cover must be left down because we have 3 cats used to jumping up and on to the sink to drink. Last sunday morning our new 12 week old kitten woke me up at 4:15 with her antics. I wander down the hall thinking I have closed the door after me. I hear a thump on the door followed by a streak of calico out of the corner of my eye. Next a splash. I manage to focus my eyes and lo and behold one very wet startled kitten looking up at me wondering why I am p*ssing on her. She had her first bath being held under the bathtub tap.

My sister and I grew up outnumbered by 4 brothers who seemed to think that putting the seat down was a sure sign of sissyhood. <BR> <BR>Once, after I'd woken up in the middle of the night feeling pretty punk and very exhausted, I shuffled into the dark bathroom (not turning on the inevitably painful light) and sat -- and fell into the cold water below because the seat was up. I woke up the next-oldest brother -- whom I knew to be the last one to use the john before bedtime -- and de-pajama'd him and sat him into the same cold water. The next morning I promised to do the same to any other brother (fortunately for me, they were all a lot smaller than I at the time) if I ever found myself "in the soup" again! <BR> <BR>Of course my brothers were outraged, but we had a family conference and even my father agreed that the seat should henceforth remain down, but sis and I had to promise to hang wet lingerie laundry up in our own closet over a plastic sheet instead of in the shower. <BR> <BR>There was also a warning to lazy brothers with bad aim who might consider leaving the seat down under _all_ circumstances that I would make them sit on the seat if they ever missed. <BR> <BR>I now have my own bathroom and my husband has his own, and I swear it's the foundation of a 32-year marriage.

I don't know about European women, but as an American woman I can say that in my opinion the problem is not whether or not the seat is up or down--we are all capable of putting it where we need it to be--but it's the fact that most men leave a trail of unappealing dribbles on the rim of the bowl. Why not clean up after yourselves, guys? <BR> <BR>Sarah <BR> <BR>

Hate to do this, but American women (I won't speak for European women) have a dirty little secret that's getting dirtier and bigger every year: The "hover-and-tinkle" piggies are rapidly outnumbering the "sit-down" group. <BR> <BR>In other words, more and more women are peeing over and onto the seat, making it truly revolting for those of us who have a "second" reason for visiting the toilet or those who, for physical reasons of muscle strength or joint disease, simply cannot squat and hover without actually sitting down. <BR> <BR>Remember the old jingle? "If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be sweet and clean the seat." <BR> <BR>It's certainly applicable to all men, but I wish American women would clean up their act!! I've come close to chasing after some women who look very chic and well-groomed but who leave a shameful mess behind them.