The Smart Car
Aug 8th, 2004, 09:12 PM
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A company here in Santa Rosa, CA has the US marketing rights. They are in the process of developing a dealer group.
Sonoma County is a good place to get a sense of market demand, as Northern Californians would probably be receptive to the car.
I liked them as well as the three wheel trucks made by Vespa.
Sonoma County is a good place to get a sense of market demand, as Northern Californians would probably be receptive to the car.
I liked them as well as the three wheel trucks made by Vespa.
Aug 8th, 2004, 11:12 PM
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I first saw the Smart car when my wife and I visited Amsterdam and Paris in 1999. In Paris we even saw a couple that had gotten married and they drove of together in a Smart car
The Smart cars are not very common here in Norway and I guess the concept is that this is a big city car. In a big city in Europe you don't really need a car that goes fast but you need a car that is small enough to park everywhere. And it only has two seats and I guess it makes sense because most people do drive around alone in the cars. I had the pleasure of trying one of the SMart cars here in Norway and it was a fun car. The only problem is the gear system in my opinion...it was one of those semi automatic system where the car indicates when the gear shift should happen and yet there is no clutch. I have a picture of it in my Milan trip report if I'm not mistaken on www.gardkarlsen.com
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Gard
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I first saw the Smart car when my wife and I visited Amsterdam and Paris in 1999. In Paris we even saw a couple that had gotten married and they drove of together in a Smart car
The Smart cars are not very common here in Norway and I guess the concept is that this is a big city car. In a big city in Europe you don't really need a car that goes fast but you need a car that is small enough to park everywhere. And it only has two seats and I guess it makes sense because most people do drive around alone in the cars. I had the pleasure of trying one of the SMart cars here in Norway and it was a fun car. The only problem is the gear system in my opinion...it was one of those semi automatic system where the car indicates when the gear shift should happen and yet there is no clutch. I have a picture of it in my Milan trip report if I'm not mistaken on www.gardkarlsen.com Regards
Gard
Stavanger, Norway
Aug 9th, 2004, 02:46 AM
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Everything I have heard says that Mercedes will be taking the brand to the US but it will not sell the small city car that you have seen here. Here is the USA Today article about it:
Smart car coming to USA
By David Kiley, USA TODAY
Mercedes-Benz confirmed Wednesday that it will introduce its Smart line of small cars, now just in European and Asian markets, to the USA in 2006.
Smart's small, quirky designs overseas are well suited to the tiny parking spaces in crowded European and Japanese cities. In the USA, the line could broaden Mercedes' reach beyond prestige cars and answer BMW's Mini.
The iconic European Smart is a two-door, 8-foot-long two-seater called Fortwo. Two Fortwo Smarts can fit legally nose-to-curb into one standard European parking space, and the car gets 60 miles to the gallon. The first U.S. model, though, will be a small sport-utility vehicle, called Formore, a small four-wheel-drive SUV competing against Toyota RAV4, Ford Escape and Honda CRV.
Smart USA general manager Scott Keogh says the plan is to launch Smart into the fastest-growing segment of the U.S. market, and later add to U.S. showrooms the smaller models that Europeans and Asians like.
Marketing manager Nicole Oge says Smart will have no problem competing in the SUV market. "We are going to have so much equipment and standard features, we will blow them (Toyota and Ford) out of the water," Oge says. Prices will be comparable to those of competing SUVs, she says
BMW launched the British Mini brand in the USA in 2001. With sales topping 36,000 last year, it's viewed as a big success. BMW plans to add more Mini models later in the decade.
Mercedes-Benz sold 218,500 vehicles last year. Sales are off 5% so far this year.
Like Mini, Mercedes will tap about 60 dealers, in mostly urban markets, to sell Smart vehicles in separate showrooms at Mercedes dealerships.
Smart car coming to USA
By David Kiley, USA TODAY
Mercedes-Benz confirmed Wednesday that it will introduce its Smart line of small cars, now just in European and Asian markets, to the USA in 2006.
Smart's small, quirky designs overseas are well suited to the tiny parking spaces in crowded European and Japanese cities. In the USA, the line could broaden Mercedes' reach beyond prestige cars and answer BMW's Mini.
The iconic European Smart is a two-door, 8-foot-long two-seater called Fortwo. Two Fortwo Smarts can fit legally nose-to-curb into one standard European parking space, and the car gets 60 miles to the gallon. The first U.S. model, though, will be a small sport-utility vehicle, called Formore, a small four-wheel-drive SUV competing against Toyota RAV4, Ford Escape and Honda CRV.
Smart USA general manager Scott Keogh says the plan is to launch Smart into the fastest-growing segment of the U.S. market, and later add to U.S. showrooms the smaller models that Europeans and Asians like.
Marketing manager Nicole Oge says Smart will have no problem competing in the SUV market. "We are going to have so much equipment and standard features, we will blow them (Toyota and Ford) out of the water," Oge says. Prices will be comparable to those of competing SUVs, she says
BMW launched the British Mini brand in the USA in 2001. With sales topping 36,000 last year, it's viewed as a big success. BMW plans to add more Mini models later in the decade.
Mercedes-Benz sold 218,500 vehicles last year. Sales are off 5% so far this year.
Like Mini, Mercedes will tap about 60 dealers, in mostly urban markets, to sell Smart vehicles in separate showrooms at Mercedes dealerships.
Aug 9th, 2004, 02:53 AM
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Our plumber's firm is called Plumbsmart and his "van" is actually a Smart Car. It's surprising how much equipment it holds. He says that it's a wonderful advertisement. It's an incredibly cute little car. You feel like tickling it behind its wing-mirrors.
Aug 9th, 2004, 05:14 AM
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The Smart Car was featured in the auto show in Toronto this year and is supposed to be ready for delivery in October. I am looking forward to seeing it running around in the streets of Toronto. I saw them in Rome last year & thought they were sooooo cute. There was an article in the paper a little while back & they did a collision test and the little car didn't do too badly. The car has a Mercedes engine & the exterior is like a steel cage made by some steel company (I forgot which one) so that it doesn't disintegrate on impact.
Aug 9th, 2004, 06:10 AM
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Echo, they're on their way ... 79 of them arrived at the Autoport in Halifax last Thursday. I'm sure they'll be in Toronto soon.
The Smart car is being distributed through Mercedes-Benz dealers.
Anselm
The Smart car is being distributed through Mercedes-Benz dealers.
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Aug 9th, 2004, 07:56 AM
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We looked into buying one but decided against it. They're not quite as practical as you think--finding a parking space isn't everything. They're also not really THAT cheap. Other cars are nearly as small, more practical and better value in the long run--i.e., the Ford Ka or the Citroen C2. Spinning around in one on vacation is a bit different from relying on it day in and day out. If you want one as a toy or novelty, fine, but in North America, it's not a car I would recommend.
There have been increasing complaints here about Smart Car owners pushing the envelope and sticking the cars anywhere they fit, whether or not it's a legal parking space. In retaliation, they are getting plastered with large, difficult to remove stickers, reminding owners/drivers not to be so selfish. We saw a Smart Car in Brugge on Saturday plastered with three such stickers. That driver must be a real PIA.
There have been increasing complaints here about Smart Car owners pushing the envelope and sticking the cars anywhere they fit, whether or not it's a legal parking space. In retaliation, they are getting plastered with large, difficult to remove stickers, reminding owners/drivers not to be so selfish. We saw a Smart Car in Brugge on Saturday plastered with three such stickers. That driver must be a real PIA.
Aug 9th, 2004, 01:57 PM
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Some rental companies will not handle them because of safety / instability problems.
The range is expanding to include 4 seaters, convertibles, sport coupes, etc.
You can see their English language website here : http://www.thesmart.co.uk/
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Some rental companies will not handle them because of safety / instability problems.
The range is expanding to include 4 seaters, convertibles, sport coupes, etc.
You can see their English language website here : http://www.thesmart.co.uk/
Peter
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Aug 9th, 2004, 02:55 PM
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I saw a smart car on Alligator alley last we were in FLL. A nice black couple was driving, and one car behind him kept close so he could see it better. The smart car driver was getting a little upset. Finally the curious driver backed off. I gave the nervous smart car driver the thumbs up. Alligator alley is like the Autobahn....they were very brave to be there IMO.
Aug 9th, 2004, 05:31 PM
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Here are some specs on the Smart car. In 2002 engines were 600 CCs or 800 CCs. In 2002 the quoted prices were 8,800 to 12,000 euro with a steel roof and 11,500 to 14,400 euro with a cloth top. Some time after 2002 the Smart Spyder was released.(from an italian magazine and I can't understand much italian).
For the U.S., it makes sense as a low priced relation to mMrcedes. But it will have to have more than 800 CCs.
For the U.S., it makes sense as a low priced relation to mMrcedes. But it will have to have more than 800 CCs.
Aug 9th, 2004, 05:52 PM
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If you really want to find out the low-down on Smart Cars in North America, go to the source: http://www.smart.com
- They have been in Mexico since August 2003
- available in Canada soon
- American SUV model will be available in 2006; made in Brazil
- They have been in Mexico since August 2003
- available in Canada soon
- American SUV model will be available in 2006; made in Brazil
Aug 10th, 2004, 07:42 AM
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And at the other end of the spectrum :
I saw a bright yellow Hummer driving around Nimes, France this afternoon.
Didn't think that they were imported here.
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And at the other end of the spectrum :
I saw a bright yellow Hummer driving around Nimes, France this afternoon.
Didn't think that they were imported here.
Peter
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Aug 20th, 2004, 12:11 PM
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I just read in Frommer's Budget Travel that you can rent Smart cars in Europe for as little as $6 a day (??). But my question is, can you fit 2 carry-on bags in the back? I'd love to rent a tiny car like that if we go back to Italy, as the car we had this year, a Ford Focus SUV (even though we'd requested the smallest car possible) was way too big to negotiate the narrow streets in little towns easily. Sea Urchin--if you're reading this--can you tell me if 2 carryons is doable?
Thanks, pears43
Thanks, pears43
