The dream of Italy is over?
Apr 2nd, 2017, 12:45 AM
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The dream of Italy is over?
Dear all,
I'm wondering what do you really think about Italy, and/or about Tuscany, because my impression (noticed during my work) is that the opinion is changing. Italy is not genuine as you thought, or...?
I'm wondering what do you really think about Italy, and/or about Tuscany, because my impression (noticed during my work) is that the opinion is changing. Italy is not genuine as you thought, or...?
Apr 2nd, 2017, 01:55 AM
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I don't know what on earth you mean. Italy of course is genuine. 60 million people live here and have genuine lives.
Do you mean that it's not a quaint diorama frozen in time, with shepherds playing on their pipes while they watch their flocks, and barefoot youth stomping the grapes?
Do you mean that it's not a quaint diorama frozen in time, with shepherds playing on their pipes while they watch their flocks, and barefoot youth stomping the grapes?
Apr 2nd, 2017, 03:50 AM
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Are you getting this idea from co-workers who visit there? I do think it is possible because of the large amount of tourists in the major cities / tourist sites some charm may be getting a bit frayed. But get a bit off the beaten path or go when not super crowded (not with a tour group or on a cruise) and there is still plenty authentic experience to be enjoyed!
Apr 2nd, 2017, 05:33 AM
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I started going to Italy in the 1990s, and if I understand the OP correctly, I somewhat agree.
I've seen big changes there, as a result of attempts to cater tourists and probably globalization.
Just anecdotally and a small example: At one time, if you went to a gelato shop, the standard was a cone with a scoop of gelato about the size of a golf ball. Now, in most gelato shops, you get the monstrous scoops that make you think of an American ice cream shop. Also, I remember a time when you had to search to find a pizza place, and the pizza was nothing like what you got in the US. Now, Italy is crawling with pizza places, and sadly, the pizza is about the same as what you'd get in an American pizza parlor.
(BTW, it was in Venice, I think, where I first saw what's called a "pizza Americano." It's a pizza with french fries on it, and it's very popular, according to one shop owner I talked to. I told him I didn't know why it's referred to as "Americano," because I had never heard of a pizza with fries on it. Later, though, I found out that it's common in some parts of the US -- thus, it's now common in Italy.)
I've seen big changes there, as a result of attempts to cater tourists and probably globalization.
Just anecdotally and a small example: At one time, if you went to a gelato shop, the standard was a cone with a scoop of gelato about the size of a golf ball. Now, in most gelato shops, you get the monstrous scoops that make you think of an American ice cream shop. Also, I remember a time when you had to search to find a pizza place, and the pizza was nothing like what you got in the US. Now, Italy is crawling with pizza places, and sadly, the pizza is about the same as what you'd get in an American pizza parlor.
(BTW, it was in Venice, I think, where I first saw what's called a "pizza Americano." It's a pizza with french fries on it, and it's very popular, according to one shop owner I talked to. I told him I didn't know why it's referred to as "Americano," because I had never heard of a pizza with fries on it. Later, though, I found out that it's common in some parts of the US -- thus, it's now common in Italy.)
Apr 2nd, 2017, 06:19 AM
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Whenever I see the words, "quaint," "real," "genuine," and "live like a local," and other such inferences I stop reading.
When I see it in reference to NYC, I tell them to buy some toilet paper at a Duane Reade and ride the subway in August.
When I see it in reference to NYC, I tell them to buy some toilet paper at a Duane Reade and ride the subway in August.
Apr 2nd, 2017, 06:47 AM
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if you want to see a more "real italy" spend some time south and east of naples - much less developed for tourism. also sicily is also an often neglected region - worth spending a month there just wandering from village to village, both by the sea and in the mountains.
Apr 2nd, 2017, 07:09 AM
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>>Are you getting this idea from co-workers who visit there?<<
>>Maybe you would be happy vacationing in Disney World.<<
The OP is Italian and works in the media IN Italy. Perhaps he is looking for 'quotes' to use???
>>Maybe you would be happy vacationing in Disney World.<<
The OP is Italian and works in the media IN Italy. Perhaps he is looking for 'quotes' to use???
Apr 2nd, 2017, 07:23 AM
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Dear Janisj,
I'm only asking if something about the opinion of Italy is changed.
Why I'm asking this? Only because as wrote on my title, I've "noticed during my work that the opinion is changing about my country". And i'ts a pity for me, first because I'm Italian. That's all.
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Eugenio
I'm only asking if something about the opinion of Italy is changed.
Why I'm asking this? Only because as wrote on my title, I've "noticed during my work that the opinion is changing about my country". And i'ts a pity for me, first because I'm Italian. That's all.
At your own disposal for more infos!
Eugenio
Apr 2nd, 2017, 08:00 AM
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Name a country that is not changing.
That some changes will be things that someone doesn't like to see, is inevitable. Nothing is as constant as change and I don't know what it is you are trying to get at in asking your question.
Do you want to know if people prefer the 'good old days'? The answer is yes, people always prefer the 'good old days'. Every generation simply define them differently.
That some changes will be things that someone doesn't like to see, is inevitable. Nothing is as constant as change and I don't know what it is you are trying to get at in asking your question.
Do you want to know if people prefer the 'good old days'? The answer is yes, people always prefer the 'good old days'. Every generation simply define them differently.
