Switzerland,Germany,Austria Itinerary Suggestions
Jun 22nd, 2010, 01:43 PM
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Palenque-you are on a roll!!!! 
It should be easy to understand why I am having such a difficult time deciding on the itinerary when you can almost not go anywhere wrong.
Since we are flying into Zurich and out of Munich trying to
stay not too far from both those cities. Planned Konstanz first but now see Lindau is almost 3 hours by boat and near that by train so too far for a day trip in my opinion. From what I have read Konstanz and Meersburg and Lindau are the
best places to go on the lake. So do we go to Lindau and skip Konstanz and day trip somewhere from Lindau. Then thinking Fuessen and Garmisch area. Want to work in Augsburg, Ulm and Hallstatt also if possible. Just keep those ideas coming and I have to decide soon. Thanks!!!!!
It should be easy to understand why I am having such a difficult time deciding on the itinerary when you can almost not go anywhere wrong.Since we are flying into Zurich and out of Munich trying to
stay not too far from both those cities. Planned Konstanz first but now see Lindau is almost 3 hours by boat and near that by train so too far for a day trip in my opinion. From what I have read Konstanz and Meersburg and Lindau are the
best places to go on the lake. So do we go to Lindau and skip Konstanz and day trip somewhere from Lindau. Then thinking Fuessen and Garmisch area. Want to work in Augsburg, Ulm and Hallstatt also if possible. Just keep those ideas coming and I have to decide soon. Thanks!!!!!
Jun 22nd, 2010, 03:07 PM
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We flew into Munich and out of Zurich on our trip. Here is our rough itinerary (may not be in order):
Munich
Dachau
Salzburg (Hellbrun castle, salt mine tour, alpine slide)
Fussen area and castles (Linderhof and Neuschwastein (sp?), Wies church, brief stop in Obergammau)
Berner Oberland (we stayed in Wengen)
Zurich
Munich
Dachau
Salzburg (Hellbrun castle, salt mine tour, alpine slide)
Fussen area and castles (Linderhof and Neuschwastein (sp?), Wies church, brief stop in Obergammau)
Berner Oberland (we stayed in Wengen)
Zurich
Jun 23rd, 2010, 09:36 AM
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violet-le-duck: I too would take Lindau over Constance - Constance IMO is really nice - Lindau is exceptionally nice - set on a peninsula jutting out into Lake Constance and a nice pastel-hued old town center.
Jun 23rd, 2010, 06:42 PM
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I now at least have some ideas for our travel by train itinerary.
Lindau,Fuessen,Garmisch,Augsburg and possibly last night
or two nights in either Landshut or Freising to be close
to the Munich airport. I don't know if Landshut or Freising
would merit two nights. I have three nights for Lindau,Fuessen,Garmisch and four for Augsburg because we
can do daytrips to Ulm,Dachau and Oberammergau easily.
We have another couple of days to either go elsewhere or
stay longer in one of the chosen places. Hope this makes some
sense!!!! Appreciate your thoughts and advice on this itinerary.
Lindau,Fuessen,Garmisch,Augsburg and possibly last night
or two nights in either Landshut or Freising to be close
to the Munich airport. I don't know if Landshut or Freising
would merit two nights. I have three nights for Lindau,Fuessen,Garmisch and four for Augsburg because we
can do daytrips to Ulm,Dachau and Oberammergau easily.
We have another couple of days to either go elsewhere or
stay longer in one of the chosen places. Hope this makes some
sense!!!! Appreciate your thoughts and advice on this itinerary.
Jun 24th, 2010, 06:48 AM
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and Constanz is only 1.5 hours by train from Lindau - not 3 hours like the boat but i think taking the boat one way may be fun - anyway do not neglect Constanz - a really nice but larger town than Lindau.
Lindau is also on the Austrian border so you can go over the border for a look or even in an hour or so to Liechenstein, a quasi independent country (train to Sargans then bus to Vaduz, the capital).
Lindau is also on the Austrian border so you can go over the border for a look or even in an hour or so to Liechenstein, a quasi independent country (train to Sargans then bus to Vaduz, the capital).
Jun 24th, 2010, 09:23 AM
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Palenque, once again many thanks. I had wanted to go to Constance,
Mainau and Meersberg. Sounds doable with train. I had not checked L to C because the train time from C to L was not a lot less than boat. I think we will try to work in Nurnberg also.
Will check out Liechenstein. Any other thoughts or suggestions appreciated!!!
Mainau and Meersberg. Sounds doable with train. I had not checked L to C because the train time from C to L was not a lot less than boat. I think we will try to work in Nurnberg also.
Will check out Liechenstein. Any other thoughts or suggestions appreciated!!!
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:35 PM
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You should use the www.bahn.de - the German Railways web site for train schedules - it's a Wunderbar site IMO and easy to use - that's what told me 1.5 hours - even though there are a few easy changes - one route i think even goes thru Switzerland. If you have not used the bahn.de site go to www.budgeteuropetravel.com and on their home page click on the link "All European Railway Schedules" or some such wording and it links you to the English schedule page of the bahn.de site - i reference this home page also because it gives several nice tips on how to fully use the bahn.de site - for instance it can tell you how to get from any address in Germany to the train station (by bus, subway, S-Bahn, etc.)
As they say in Germany "Have a Good Fahrt" - a good ride though i guess i am taking a little liberty with that translation some Germans tell me. But i like to say it anyway and you will see it plastered on some train station walls.
As they say in Germany "Have a Good Fahrt" - a good ride though i guess i am taking a little liberty with that translation some Germans tell me. But i like to say it anyway and you will see it plastered on some train station walls.
Jun 25th, 2010, 06:36 AM
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violet-le-duck
Nuernberg i found really really interesting - the old town center has nicely been pieced back together from war ravages - don't forget to sample those famous little weiners they are famous for
But the highlight of Nuernberg for me lies just outside of town a few miles by S-Bahn - what are called the most extensive intact remains of the Third Reich - Hitler's Nazi parade grounds and stadiums, etc.
The parade grounds are made of marble blocks that go for a mile or so and the balcony of the stadium that overlooks the parade grounds and where Hitler reviewed the goose-stepping troops remains also - along with various smaller stadia, etc.
Nuernberg i found really really interesting - the old town center has nicely been pieced back together from war ravages - don't forget to sample those famous little weiners they are famous for
But the highlight of Nuernberg for me lies just outside of town a few miles by S-Bahn - what are called the most extensive intact remains of the Third Reich - Hitler's Nazi parade grounds and stadiums, etc.
The parade grounds are made of marble blocks that go for a mile or so and the balcony of the stadium that overlooks the parade grounds and where Hitler reviewed the goose-stepping troops remains also - along with various smaller stadia, etc.
Jun 25th, 2010, 08:03 AM
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Information about the former Nazi Party Rally Grounds, Nuremberg. ... In 1933 and 1934, the Zeppelin Field meadow served as a parade ground for the National ...
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Nuremberg stadium, The old Nazi rally grounds
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Jun 26th, 2010, 09:16 PM
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caroljean- Appreciate the Stein am Rhein suggestion,will check it out.
karens-Thanks. Can you tell me about your visit to Dachau?
Did you go on a tour or do you just show up? I haven't had
time to check out that part of the trip yet.
pegontheroad-Hope to get to Meersburg and maybe Mainau from Lindau and think we may have to go to Konstanz on the train and then take the boat. We will skip seeing Konstanz.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Palenque-You have once again given me lots of needed information to check out. The German Rail site does have
some special fares that cut the total trip fare almost in half. Yeah!!! Now I need to read more and try to understand what I am buying, etc. Do you know if I buy a special fare ticket and need to change to another train if I just pay the difference or lose the special fare?
Also appreciate the Nurnberg and Liechenstein information.
DH will be especially interested in Nurnberg.
Thanks again!!!
karens-Thanks. Can you tell me about your visit to Dachau?
Did you go on a tour or do you just show up? I haven't had
time to check out that part of the trip yet.
pegontheroad-Hope to get to Meersburg and maybe Mainau from Lindau and think we may have to go to Konstanz on the train and then take the boat. We will skip seeing Konstanz.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Palenque-You have once again given me lots of needed information to check out. The German Rail site does have
some special fares that cut the total trip fare almost in half. Yeah!!! Now I need to read more and try to understand what I am buying, etc. Do you know if I buy a special fare ticket and need to change to another train if I just pay the difference or lose the special fare?
Also appreciate the Nurnberg and Liechenstein information.
DH will be especially interested in Nurnberg.
Thanks again!!!
Jun 27th, 2010, 04:46 AM
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I have visited Dachau twice and both times made the trip independently. I rented the audio guide once and hooked up with an English speaking tour another. Both were good but I preferred the independence of moving at my own pace.
Allow time to visit the musuem afterwards - it is very moving as is the entire experience.
Allow time to visit the musuem afterwards - it is very moving as is the entire experience.
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Do you know if I buy a special fare ticket and need to change to another train if I just pay the difference or lose the special fare?<
I believe they are non-refundable and non-changeable - the beauty of a railpass is you can hop on virtually any train anytime - just show up - only a handful of trains in Germany require reservations before boarding and you will never encounter them - a few ICE Sprinter trains designed for business types going between Frankfurt-Cologne and Hamburg i think and Thalys trains from Cologne to Belgium.
I believe they are non-refundable and non-changeable - the beauty of a railpass is you can hop on virtually any train anytime - just show up - only a handful of trains in Germany require reservations before boarding and you will never encounter them - a few ICE Sprinter trains designed for business types going between Frankfurt-Cologne and Hamburg i think and Thalys trains from Cologne to Belgium.
Jun 29th, 2010, 06:29 AM
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Bavarian Palace Department | Herrenchiemsee Palace and Park | New ...
In 1873 King Ludwig II of Bavaria acquired the Herreninsel as the location for his Royal Palace of Herrenchiemsee (New Palace). ...
http://www.herrenchiemsee.de/englisc...lace/index.htm
tina - i especially loved Herrenchiemsee, another fantasy palace/castle creation of the proverbial 'Mad' King Ludwig of Bavaria - this time he set out to copy Versailles on an island lovingly situated out in the placid Chiemsee, idyllically set in the foothills of the Bavarian Alps.
The 'Bavarian Versailles' is easy to reach by train - get off at Prien (on the Munich to Salzburg line) and then either hoof it about a half mile down to the lake and boat dock (part of the thrill for me was taking the boat to the palace - anticipating its splendor as we neared it) or in season there is also a tiny steam train communicating passengers from the train station to the boat dock.
In 1873 King Ludwig II of Bavaria acquired the Herreninsel as the location for his Royal Palace of Herrenchiemsee (New Palace). ...
http://www.herrenchiemsee.de/englisc...lace/index.htm
tina - i especially loved Herrenchiemsee, another fantasy palace/castle creation of the proverbial 'Mad' King Ludwig of Bavaria - this time he set out to copy Versailles on an island lovingly situated out in the placid Chiemsee, idyllically set in the foothills of the Bavarian Alps.
The 'Bavarian Versailles' is easy to reach by train - get off at Prien (on the Munich to Salzburg line) and then either hoof it about a half mile down to the lake and boat dock (part of the thrill for me was taking the boat to the palace - anticipating its splendor as we neared it) or in season there is also a tiny steam train communicating passengers from the train station to the boat dock.
