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May 18th, 2016, 09:29 PM
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Surprise trip for my wife - suggested Itinerary for 17 days in Scandinavia
Posted by: TravellingWombat on May 14, 16 at 12:39am


I would fly in to Helsinki, spend a night and a day, then have a ball on the overnight ferry to Stockholm. The buffet dinner on board is fantastic and the bar entertainment is pretty good. http://www.tallinksilja.com/en/web/int/book-a-cruise. As you arrive in the morning you will pass the gauntlet of the archipelago with the sun at your back, if there is a sun. Stock up on duty free booze like the locals or you pay through the nose in Sweden, and on land everywhere up there. From Stockholm visit Uppsala for a day. Gothenburg on the other side is also a very nice city.

I've been as far north as Narvik in Norway. There is a whole lot of nothing up there, except for the fjords. Magnificent. I took the train but it only went as far as Bodo. Then it was a bus and a couple of ferries to cross the fjords to get to Narvik. This was years ago. If you are just going up there to see the Northern Lights it is a crap shoot. The Northern Lights are caused by solar flares or something like that. I did not see any Northern Lights on this visit or on several other trips to Stockholm and Helsinki. But I have seen the green curtains in Michigan and Alaska.

I would go to Copenhagen again in a flash. Tivoli is a great outdoor entertainment park right in the heart of the city.

Prices are triple X throughout the Nordic countries, especially Norway.
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May 19th, 2016, 12:12 AM
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One of the myths that refuses to die here on Fodors is the price of booze and everything else in Sweden. Prices are not triple X, at least, not in Denmark or Sweden and you do not pay through the nose for alcohol in Sweden either. The prices for wine/beer/spirits is the same in Sweden as it is in the UK for example, in some cases slightly less expensive. I don't read any complaints about alcohol prices in the UK. The non-believers can check prices on this website.

http://www.systembolaget.se/english/
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May 19th, 2016, 06:59 AM
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Prices are not triple X, at least, not in Denmark or Sweden and you do not pay through the nose for alcohol in Sweden either.>

Guess things have changed in the decade or so since I was in Sweden? At that time Swedes flocked over to Helsingor in droves to cop cheaper tobacco and booze- that has ended? I recall a whole street of booze and tobacco shops in Helsingor.

UK booze prices to us Americans are a lot more pricey.
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May 19th, 2016, 02:11 PM
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Whatever you decide to do I hope you won't give Stockholm short shrift.

If it should be rainey (which it was when we traveled in Sept in Scandinavia)
the cities have enough to do to alleviate any disappointment.
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May 20th, 2016, 05:44 AM
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You can see the NL in Tromsø in September, but your chances would be better later in the month rather than earlier, as the night will become longer and darker then. But there are reported sightings of NL as early as late August some years, they can be seen at twilight time then if they are intense enough! So if you plan to go there, keep it for the end of the trip.

Hurtigruten is a very good option to discover the landscape of coastal Norway without having to drag your luggage around. The new websites are a bit of a disaster unfortunately, but you can book port to port voyage on the "global" version of the website : https://www.hurtigruten.com/ (if you are redirected to a different version, choose "global" at the bottom of the left hand side menu, in the language option) and you can see the port to port option by clicking "find a trip".
In autumn the ship sail into the Hjørundfjord on the second day of the trip, it's a majestic fjord slightly less known than Geiranger but (to me) equally as beautiful. You also have a morning to discover Trondheim.

A possible itinerary (for the Norwegian part of your trip) coud be :
- arrive in Oslo, spend a couple of days there.
- go to Bergen by the "Norway in a Nutshell" road http://norwaynutshell.com/ . You can break the trip and spend a night on the way (Flåm would be the most suitable) but I'm not sure it's necessary
- spend a day or two in Bergen (you can also devote one day to the "Hardangerfjord in a Nutshell" round trip, same website as above).
- Take Hurtigruten to Tromsø. You could stop on the way in Svolvaer to discover Lofoten Islands but it is a bit of a challenge to visit Lofoten without a car (it can be done but it takes a bit of planning with bus schedules, and you miss all the beautiful landscapes in between bus stops).
- Stay in Tromsø for NL. It is advised to stay at least 5 nights to increase your chances as you need both solar activities and clear skies and it is always a gamble.
- fly back to Oslo

You can visit Copenhagen or Stockholm before or after (plane or ferry between Copenhagen and Oslo, plane or train between Oslo and Stockholm).

For the Bergen-Oslo part (NiN), if you don't want to carry your luggage around there is a porter service (http://www.porterservice.no/) but otherwise the connections between the various transportations are rather short.
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May 20th, 2016, 07:49 AM
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Sweden's booze prices in 2013 were much higher than Denmark and Germany and most of Europe:

http://hejsweden.com/en/the-swedes-a...ing-in-sweden/
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May 20th, 2016, 09:52 AM
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Odin, I did check the systembollaget site, it appears that for a good bourgogne, the price is about double, compared to global webshops.

I checked a Bonnes Mares Grand Cru 2010.
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May 21st, 2016, 04:54 PM
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if you are not going nutso by now, you soon will be. The time for agonizing is hereby OVER!

I'm going against the grain, probably, but if you set aside JUST Norway and Stockholm, I think you will have a an enjoyable, satisfying trip for the 17 days. It can be done. Just do it and relax until September.

OK...do 4 days in Stockholm, and 13 days in Norway. Try to follow my Norwegian photo footsteps, Oslo to Tromso and I promise, you will be happy and much less stressed. The Northern Lights may or may not be too exciting for you at anytime of year. Just take the chance to go as far as Tromso and hope for the best.

PLEASE dump the 31x19 luggage...20 x 19 will be more than enough and a lot easier to shlep. No need for much dress-up stuff....couple pair of jeans, sweaters and the usual lighter stuff (underclothes, sox, skirts and shirts, blouses, toiletries, light on the shoes...plenty.

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Jun 11th, 2016, 12:20 AM
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I must admit that I would want a bit more time in Stockholm (at least 5 full days) and in Copenhagen (3 full days), but it really depends on what YOU want to see and do -- and as stu so clearly notes, there is a time when you need to stop agonizing!

If you are still debating... its time to pull out a calendar! Identify the things you most want to see in each location, check their opening/closing times on the internet, and mark them on a calendar. Then pencil in your transportation, add some time on either side (for getting to/from your lodging, checking in/out, packing/unpacking, getting oriented, etc.). That's really the only way I know to see how YOUR priorities fit together.

Enjoy!
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Jun 11th, 2016, 04:53 AM
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Odin, I did check the systembollaget site, it appears that for a good bourgogne, the price is about double, compared to global webshops.

I checked a Bonnes Mares Grand Cru 2010.


I like your choice of wine!

I also checked it, on the systembolaget website, there is only one 2010 wine which is a Louis Jadot Bonne Mares Grand Cru 2010 magnum size at SEK3995/USD480. I checked on a global wine website and the price was USD562.95.

In any case, I was not referring to fine wines but more the everyday wines which are very similar priced to what I find in the US or UK.


https://www.systembolaget.se/dryck/r...nd-cru-9209406

https://aabalat.com/node/56926
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How much are you intending to drink for goodness sake? - by the time you've paid for airfares, transport, accommodation and food surely the extra cost of a bottle of wine isn't going to add much percent wise. Duty in Norway is NOK 40 for a bottle of wine (based on alcohol content not price) + 25% sales tax, it will be less in Sweden and therefore hardly noticeable on an expensive wine. What does knock the price up is the mark up that restaurants put on the cost - can easily be 4x. So I suggest you drink your magnum of Louis Jadot Bonne Mares Grand Cru 2010 in your hotel room!
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Jun 11th, 2016, 11:02 AM
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Copenhagen is neat but it is also a great base with several superb easy day trips - like to Hillerod for Viking Boats; Fredericksborg Palace; Helsingor and Hamlet's Castle, the Louisians State Park, and the Round the Sound train loop - Cope-Malmo-Lund-Helsingor-feryy to Helsingor - back to Copenhagen.

Lund was the highlight for me of this loop - sweet university city with campus-like setting.
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