STARBUCKS COMING TO ITALY!

http://fortune.com/2015/10/15/starbu...-italy-retail/

To update a recent thread of mine"No Starbucks in Italy?"- http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...s-in-italy.cfm

Me I don'tmuch care if Starbucks comes and ruins Italian coffee culture as many claimed - IMO if the market can support Starbucks in Italy then why not - I do oppose blocking their entry thru arcane zoning laws - let the free market decide!

As per their Facebook page ... "Apertura del primo Starbucks in Italia!" It's in Milano and the opening is on Feb. 1st.

I couldn't find that on their FB page Myriam. I will be in Milan in March, and just for you PalenQ, I will go past and see how busy it is and report back.

Fantastic, good to see another global company will be not paying their tax in Italy as well as everywhere else.

" I do oppose blocking their entry thru arcane zoning laws "

Is anyone suggesting doing that in Italy? I thought SB wasn't in Italy because SB thought they'd not succeed.

And, if we're honest, in not paying tax in Italy Starbucks would be merely adhering to the local business culture.

Every Starbucks I have been in in Europe has been mobbed.

Lines out the door @Starbucks at the Brandenburger Tor.

I think the Starbucks in Milano will be successful. Milano is a trendy fashion city and people will enjoy walking around with the Starbucks label on their coffee cups.

Prada, Gucci, Battistoni, Starbucks!

Thin

I also observed Starbucks being very busy in Amsterdam and Paris last summer. They must be doing something right.

They may be doing something right, but I'm not sure it's good old fashioned coffee. Don't get me wrong, our family has had a fair share of Starbucks, but it's usually frozen designer coffee drinks. We also don't really have many mom and pop choices available. The coffee we experienced in Italy was head and shoulders above anything Starbucks can offer. Perhaps Italians will have the sense to recognize that.

Only time I went to a Starbucks was in Versailles.

My daughter absolutely wanted to go inside. She is a fan of Starbucks... if Italians are of the same mould, youngs will love it and clog it !

(don't mistake me, I've absolutely no idea if coffee is good - I dislike all coffees). Only one I found fabulous was a coffe with full cream etc in Aalborg, after a visit in the dark and cold up there.

I believe I'm the only one in my group of friends who doesn't like Starbucks coffee, nor their frappuccinos of all kind. And I hate to drink from a cardboard cup.

I dislike all coffees)>

Even pousse-cafes in France with some booze in it or coffee with Baily's or any Irish Cream?

An FYI ...

Having read a couple of articles here in Milan this morning (in local Milano rags) debunking the celebrated grand opening of Starbucks on the 1st of February (as per the Facebook page), in order to satisfy my curiousity we decided to take a stroll down Corso Buenos Aires to see if we could find any sign of Starbucks' arrival ...

Nothing. Sorry to disappoint.

But if anyone is interested, they were putting the finishing touches on a new Nike store ...

I don't lkke Starbucks either Myriam although most of my friends do so occasionally I go there with them. Their flat white is not bad.
In Italy I would not go to Starbucks, that would just seem ridiculous to me when the coffee there is so good in any bar you go to.

Un pousse-café doesn't even have coffee in it, Pal. That's why it's called a pousse-café. Get with the program.

Un pousse-café doesn't even have coffee in it, Pal.>

Just after I posted I took a long hike (like you've been suggesting) and voila thought - pousse-cafe is an after the ubiquitous coffee drinking at the end of a large meal - after the coffee - I knew that but forgot that!

Thanks for the correcto! Score one for St-Cirq and Dordogneshire!

UGH! They will be easy to locate...just follow the smell of burnt coffee.

And while all of you are focused on Starbucks, McDonald's is desperately trying to tap into the coffee market by setting up coffee bars within their restaurants.

Kleebatt they have had those for at least 14 years in Australia. Called McCafe. Not sure why they tested them there first, but I had a coffee in one once during a road trip. It was awful.

Sorry for the typo Kleeblatt, better have coffee and put glasses on!

Read this from their CEO:
https://news.starbucks.com/news/star...-Italy-in-2017
"Inspired by the craftsmanship of the Milanese barista, the spirit of the Italian people, their passion for community, their friendliness and taste for quality, Schultz’s vision for Starbucks began to take root."
Something must have gone wrong over the years then.