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Old Dec 9th, 2008, 08:05 AM
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Maribel, thank you for your further thoughts.
I also don't like the idea of packing up for an additional night in Madrid, especially since we will already spend some days there on the front end. If I could, I would reverse the order of things, but for a number of reasons that is not ideal.

Ned, unfortunately Air Europa is not flying that route anymore. Several years ago I had a FF ticket through Continental which included my departure from Santiago with Air Europa. Robert is right, only Spanair and Iberia seem to have non stops. I think I saw somewhere that Ryan Air also has this route?? I haven't looked into that any further as I wouldn't consider them due to the weight restrictions.
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Hi cruiseluv,
Ryan Air also does the route, but we're also reluctant to take that Madrid-Santiago flight, which for March costs only 20 euros, because of the baggage weight restrictions and all the rest of the hassle that goes along with those really cheap tickets on Ryan Air. I would do it for a "weekend break" with just a carry on bag, but nothing else.

And the Ryan Air Santiago-Madrid wouldn't work for you to connect, since it arrives at Barajas at 12:25 pm. Their evening flight arrives at 11 pm.
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Old Dec 9th, 2008, 11:29 AM
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Ryanair has a dirt cheap price, at least for the basic ticket, but the flight departs at 11:20.

As for flying Ryanair, I just love their terms and conditions. Checking your bags would cost a small fortune, even if traveling light. As for carry-on luggage, you can forget it. You're allowed one small piece.

Checked Baggage

Passengers travelling on a reservation with checked baggage are required to check-in at the airport and are subject to an airport check-in fee per person/per one way flight at a discounted rate of £4/€5 (or local currency equivalent) if booked online or alternatively if booked at the airport or via a Ryanair call centre the standard rate of £8/€10 person/per one way flight will apply

Each passenger is permitted to check in up to a maximum of 3 bags (combined weight of 15kgs) subject to the payment of the applicable checked baggage fees. Checked baggage booked online is charged per bag/per one way flight at a discounted rate of £8/€10 for the first bag and £16/€20 for each additional bag/ per one way flight. If checked baggage fees are paid either at the airport or through a Ryanair call centre, the standard rate of £16/€20 per bag/per one way flight will apply.

No pooling or sharing of baggage allowances is permitted, even within a party travelling on the same reservation.

Any passenger exceeding their 15kg personal checked baggage allowance will be charged the prevailing fee on the day of travel. The excess baggage fee is currently at the rate of £12/€15 per kilo (or local currency equivalent).

Cabin Baggage

Strictly one item of cabin baggage per passenger (excluding infants) weighing up to 10kg with maximum dimensions of 55cm x 40cm x 20cm is permitted. (handbag, briefcase, laptops etc must be carried within your permitted 1 piece of cabin baggage).
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Old Dec 10th, 2008, 07:17 PM
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OMG, the fine print in Ryan Air would indeed cost a small fortune (especially since I don't travel light!).

Well, the temptation of free business first class tickets with Continental was too much, so we booked that. The trade off is that we will return the night prior to Madrid. We will still keep the 4 nights in Santiago we originally planned.

Now the decision is where to stay that night. On the front end of the trip, we are planning to stay for 5 nights at an apt in Plaza de la Paja, rented through Spain Select.

Any opinions about the Hotel Clement in Barajas? I am trying to keep it low price as we need two rooms. It would also save some money in back and forth transport to the airport.

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Old Dec 10th, 2008, 07:24 PM
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cruiseluv,
The Clement Barajas should be fine and a money saver-well reviewed here and on Trip Advisor.
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Old Dec 10th, 2008, 07:50 PM
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Thanks Maribel. I did see the Tripadvisor reviews but it's good to know you and others here think it's ok.

Can you tell me anything about convenience/safety of taking the Metro from there to spend a few hours that evening in Madrid proper?

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Hi cruiseluv,
I've never taken the metro in the evening from the Barajas pueblo station, which is 6 min. walking from the hotel, the Clement web page says.

The hotel states that it offers that free shuttle also to IFEMA (the Trade Fair Park), so you might take the metro from there, the Campo de las Naciones station, if the shuttle will deliver you to it, which shouldn't be a problem. You wouldn't have to walk,
But getting back, you'd need to ask them if they would pick you up at IFEMA (if you have a cell phone to call them and are willing to wait for the van) or if not, you'd need to take the metro back to the Barajas pueblo station, which is much closer to the hotel.

It's too bad that Continental isn't part of One World so that you could have added that Iberia Santiago-Madrid ticket to your f.f. mile ticket and do both flights on the same day, protected.

Anyway, I'm really glad you were able to get FREE business class tickets for all to and from Spain! That's worth a minor inconvenience, I think!

I'm also really glad you chose the Plaza de la Paja apt. from Spain Select. It looks quite nice, and it's just below the Cava Baja, on a very pretty, atmospheric square. Please let us know how you like it!
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Old Dec 11th, 2008, 04:42 AM
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Maribel,

Thank you for the options regarding metro.

I just came across another possibility to get ourselves back to Madrid on the free ticket. Air Europa , which is a CO partner, has a flight early in the AM from Vigo-Madrid. Obviously, we would need to go to Vigo from Santiago the night prior (instead of the extra night in Madrid). I never comtemplated going to Vigo, but is there anything of interest there to spend a few hours on a Saturday?

I'll open another thread on this question as well.

Thanks for any info.
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Hi cruiseluv,
I was thinking of suggesting a departure on Air Europa from Vigo! That way you could stay in Santiago until the late afternoon, take a bus to Vigo and spend your last evening still in Galicia rather than at an airport hotel in Madrid. This is what I would do.

While the outskirts of Vigo are heavily industrial and the traffic just awful, and I don't find the city to be very photogenic, its puerto pesquero, the fishermen's quarter in the Casco Antiguo is atmospheric, and as Revulgo says on your other thread, it's a great place to gorge on shellfish!
We chowed down at the emblematic El Mosquito on Plaza da Pedra in the old town above the port. There's also Maruja Limón on Victoria 4 and La Espuela in the Barrio La Piedra on
eófilo Llorente, 2.

www.elmosquitovigo.com

I enjoyed the park and the Castillo del Castro and the market on Rua de Pescadería. I've never been to the Museo do Mar de Galicia with its display of Spanish maritime history.
www.museodomar.com

If you want to splurge on your last night's lodging (since you'll have that free airfare), I'd consider the beautiful Pazo los Escudos (I have a friend who works at a Rusticae property who just loves this hotel), or the AC Palacio Universal right down by the water and the tourist office.
www.ac-hotels.com
www.pazolosescudos.com

There's also the NH Palacio de Vigo
www.nh-hotels.com

Is that Sat., March 28? If so, this is their fiesta day of La Reconquista, celebrated in the old quarter, which might be fun to witness.

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Old Dec 11th, 2008, 11:28 AM
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Forgot to mention Vigo's Irish pubs-

The Dublin pub was the first Irish pub to open in Vigo and became famous because the Chieftains recorded one of their tracks from their Santiago album there, playing with Carlos Núñez, the Galician bagpipe sensation. He played on the soundtrack of the movie "The Sea Inside". We have most of Núñez's CDs, my favorite being Os Amores Libres. Do you know his music?
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Old Dec 11th, 2008, 05:26 PM
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Oh Maribel, I was so excited about the possibility of leaving from Vigo after I read all your comments and Revulgo's , but I think I counted my chickens before they hatched! When I called Continental they told me they only had one reward seat on the 7:30 AM flight and we need three!
In addition, my son, who will be returning to Chicago via Iberia, almost rebelled when I told him his flight out of Vigo to Madrid leaves at 6:50 AM. LOL!

That hotel, Pazos Los Escudos, looks magnificent. What a setting!

Maybe I'll have to leave that area , together with a visit to Baiona, for next time we visit in the summer months. So all your information will be very useful at some point in time!

So we are back to going to Madrid that last day/ evening. I am still not completly sold out with staying by the airport though.

I am sorry, I am not familiar with Carlos Nuñez but now I'm intrigued and will look for the CD you recommend. I love bagpipe music. Do you think in March somebody will be playing it through the streets of Santiago?

Thank you so much!
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Hi cruiseluv,
Yes, definitely you should hear the gaita played on the streets of Santiago. I love his music, Susana Seivane (female bagpipe player), that of the group Milladoiro and that of the Asturian gaitero (bagpipe player), José Angel Hevia. My favorite CD of his is The Other Side.
I think your son might like it too.

www.carlos-nunez.com
www.milladoiro.com
www.susanaseivane.com
www.hevia.es

That's really too bad the Vigo return didn't work for you! Keep the info and a trip down to Baiona for another Galician aventure.

And keep us posted on your decision!
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Maribel, thanks for the links!

For sure I'll keep you posted!
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