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Pronounce Ripon for me, please

Old Jul 31st, 2011, 09:54 AM
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Pronounce Ripon for me, please

Is it rip-en (short i - like rip, to tear) or rye-pen? I thought, for sure, I'd find this on google, but no luck. Any help out there...?
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:00 AM
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Google Ripon pronunciation and hundreds of things come up, like this:

http://www.misspronouncer.com/cities/ripon.html
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:08 AM
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I did find Ripon, Wi, and Ripon, CA, but know the UK has their own way. Can any natives help?
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:08 AM
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I've always pronounced it sort of Ripun (short i and semi swallow the second syllable) - but maybe Morgana or someone else has a better description.
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:10 AM
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The first syllable is "Rip" as in tear. Although some people will pronounce the second syllable "on" with a short "o", the tendency for British speakers is to neutralise a vowel in an unstressed syllable, i.e. to make it more like "uh." Linguists called this neutral vowel "schwa" after the Hebrew vowel of that name.

American speakers are more likely to give the unstressed vowel its full value. Brits talk about "Harr-uhds." Americans tend to say something closer to "HarrOds." with the "O" as in "on"
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:11 AM
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Thanks, Janisj. You're right -- I just found a site through yahoo search that confirmed your answer. (Forvo.com). Many thanks.
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:12 AM
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And thanks to you, too, SimonX!
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:31 AM
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ChgoGal: are you going? I loved Ripon Cathedral. I'm sure I will bring down the wrath of major cathedral lovers everywhere, but I enjoyed my time at Ripon more than my time at York Minster.
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:37 AM
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If you are posh : it is Rip en
If you are not : it is Rip un

Brits would probably expect Americans to refer to it as Rye pon.
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 10:38 AM
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I won't say that I enjoyed Ripon more than York, but it was a real pleasure for me. I also enjoyed gathering in the square to hear the man blow the horn at 9pm.

I think what made Ripon special for me was that my hostess at the B&B was a parishioner there and told me lots of "inside" stuff. I also took the evening walk with the man from the tourist office. I showed up at the appointed hour and was the only one, but the gentleman graciously took me anyway. His talk was very informative. You could tell that he loved his city. He was also a parishioner at the cathedral. While we were walking, some friends of his were in their front garden and invited us in for a tour of their back garden which ran down to the river. It was a charming walk with their dog and two cats which accompanied us.

I went back to the cathedral the next day to look at some of the things I had heard about the evening before.
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 11:00 AM
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Thanks to all for the feedback. I very much want to visit Ripon some day, being in such a gorgeous part of England. But the reason for my post is that my book group often reads aloud portions of British literature, and I mispronounce British names way too often.
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 11:06 AM
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f you are posh : it is Rip en
If you are not : it is Rip un>>

I've never been there, but this has never struck me as being one of the more difficult place names of the British Isles - I've always just said RIP - ON. [without a pause, obviously].

Now HN tells my I'm wrong!

A good reason not to go there, I say!
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 11:30 AM
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Go to http://www.howjsay.com/

I would use the first pronunciation example. I have never heard the second
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 11:44 AM
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The second pronunciation is very strange indeed.
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 12:15 PM
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The second is close to how Ripon California would be pronounced if one had a British accent (being one of the few who have been in both places )
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Old Jul 31st, 2011, 12:52 PM
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first i have heard rip on on these forums folk are used talikng about rip offs
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