kbmtravel

Dukey1 on Feb 4, 16 at 4:23pm

" And as to not getting much sleep...that's an inappropriate comment IMO."


.....What are you talking about? What inappropriate comment?

kbmtravel

Thank you Kimhe! You are one of the people who convinced me to go to San Sebastian, I've written down loads of restauarant recommendations thanks to you! And we will definitly see at least one flamenco performance.

PalenQ, I will look into the overnight trains (and skyscanner), thank you for the info!

kimhe

... and I can't hold myself for a couple of more San Sebastian tips:

As a contrast to the Parte vieja/Old town and the seaside part, I recommend the area in and around the Reyes Catolicos street, just behind the Buen Pastor cathedral. Great and grown up nightlife, several laid-back music bars long into the small hours. Here you also find Casa Valles, an institution in town and the birth-place of the "Gilda", the quintessential San Sebastian pintxo: http://www.barvalles.com/
http://www.alwayseasyrental.com/the-...-san-sebastian
http://www.sansebastianturismo.com/en/to-do/nightlife

Many of the best pintxos bars are in the local atmosphere Gros district, just across the city river Urumea from the Parte vieja/Old town: http://theboywhoatetheworld.com/2014...gros-district/

Bodega Donostiarra (San Sebastian is Donostia in Basque) and Bar Bergara are two of my favourites in this part of town: http://www.bodegadonostiarra.com/
http://pinchosbergara.es/

And apart from the concert in Sevilla I mentioned above, plain fantastic Olga Pericet dances in Teatro Central on Friday 23 Sept at 11pm. Last year she won the Premio Max as best female dancer in Spain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7xLhfGLR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31LUeHJ2Io8

bilboburgler

I use rome2rio but I wouldn't trust it, I'd then break down the details.

Cordoba needs a day trip

Fly out of Malaga (actually Malaga needs a day trip but I think you are full)

PalenQ

PalenQ, I will look into the overnight trains (and skyscanner), thank you for the info!>

These are 'hotel trains' and in Gran Classe (sp?) some even have showers in the compartment (but these cost a lot) - anyway there is a variety of accommodation from multi-person with strangers of both sexes couchettes for about $25 p.p. above the train fare (paid for by a pass if you have one - if buying ticket everything is included in the price - www.renfe.com - Spanish Railways site. Earl;y bird gets the proverbial worm. But discounted tickets again non-refundable non-changeable I think (not totally sure).

kbmtravel

Okay I looked at the specific train/flight websites and found the travel times and costs. I decided to move Barcelona to the end of the trip. (Yes, I do realize that I will need to arrive at the airport a few hours early.)

Train Amsterdam to Paris: 3 hr 20 min 35E each
Fly Vueling Paris to Bilbao: 1.5 hrs 60E (including 1 bag) each
Bus Bilbao to San Sebastian: 13E each 1 hr
Bus San Sebastian to Bilbao: 13E each 1 hr
Fly Vueling Bilbao to Seville: 55E (including 1 bag) each
Bus Seville to Granada: 10E 3 hr 5 min (bus is cheaper and faster)
Fly Vueling Granada to Barcelona: 1 hr 20 min 58E (including 1 bag) each
Fly home from Barcelona

kbmtravel

I still need help deciding where to put the extra night though!
Right now the itinerary is as follows.

Amsterdam: 3 nights, 2 full days jetlagged
Paris: 7 nights, 6 full days or 5 full days with Versailles day trip
San Sebastian: 3 nights, 2 full days
Barcelona: 6 nights, 4 full days
Granada: 2 nights, 1 full day
Seville: 4 nights, 3 full days

Should I take the seventh night from Paris and add to Barcelona or somewhere else? I was thinking about possible day trips I could do from these places. Recommendations? I'm already doing Versailles and Cordoba as day trips.

Paris daytrips: Provins, Rouen
Barcelona: Sitges, Costa Brava, Roses, Girona, Cadaques (may be too far)
San Sebastianaint Jean de Luz, Hondarribia, San Juan, Lekeitio

PalenQ

I'd add it to Amsterdam, a city with a surprising variety of varied sights apart from its famous museums - perhaps even do a day trip to a regional Dutch town - like Delft, Gouda or Haarlem or a day trip to Zannse Schans (easily twinned with nearby Haarlem)to see Holland's 2nd greatest collection of behemoth wooden windmills:

https://www.google.com/search?q=zaan...w=1920&bih=955

Easy to do on your own - train to Koog Zaandijk and a short walk from the station - about an hour all told from Amsterdam each way - and Haarlem is a gem too, Amsterdam is full of foreign tourists and cosmopolitan - Haarlem is a real Dutch regional market town:

https://www.google.com/search?q=haar...w=1920&bih=955

Avaleska

Loved Barcelona. Abadal Winery tour was awesome, just a few of us, full tour (antique winery tools) and great wines, spent quite a while enjoying the wine and almonds there. Just outside Barcelona.