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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 04:26 AM
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That's true. Respect AAFF's experience, but have a question: AAFF, when did this trip take place? Since 911, many countries have tightened their visa/passport regulations---not necessarily out of fear of terrorism, but in some cases as an indignant response to the US's stricter regulations. Not saying this is the case with Denmark specifically, but other countries have simply used the example of 911 to jump on the bandwagon and clarify regs that were either quite lax or not enforced. Denmark's policies---or their enforcement---may have changed significantly since you were there.
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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i believe that the liability of airlines has changed recently in regard to their allowance of passengers to travel with non-compliant documents. also, since almost all airlines are experiencing some degree of financial hardship, they are much less willing to take a chance. contact your airline.

i'm sorry but the idea that passport controls (of all countries) treat all nationalities the same is laughable. i don't know how anyone who has traveled even a little could claim that all are treated equally by officials. call it what you want (racism or whatever) but all nationalities are not treated equally by western immigration authorities.
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 05:01 AM
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<b>kswl</b>,

I have 2 US passports. A regular(personal) and a no-fee passport issued for my official US government business travel. I work for a major security consulting firm that does a great deal of business with the US Dept. of State.
The no-fee passport was the one that was almost expired. Before somebody jumps in and says that maybe that was the reason I was allowed in, I actually asked the official if the same rule would apply for a regular tourist passport and without even thinking about it, he said, yes..... This was in 2003.
I've traveled to many countries and the only time I'm remminded to have a 3-6 month validity left on my passport is every time I need a visa to enter. It seems to be a very valid and enforced requirement if a visa is required.
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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I don't know the particulars of Denmark's requirements so I can't say if Ronda's hubby will be OK or not, but overall I'd say that:

If a country's rules say your passport has to be valid for xx days after your arrival date, I would take that seriously even if some individuals were allowed into the country at one time or another with a passport that didn't meet the requirements.

Policemen will sometimes let speeders off with a warning, but I wouldn't recommend routinely speeding in the expectation that they will always give warnings.

A particular immigration officer may let some individuals through with noncomplying passports for one reason or another, but I wouldn't count on it in every instance.
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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I think, especially in this day and age, to rely on anything other than published regulations is taking a chance, and I personally don't want my travel disrupted because a bureaucrat rightfully points to a written regulation and says &quot;Right here, it SAYS you need a passport valid for at least three more months.&quot;

For every personal anecdote about having no problem with an almost-expiring passport, I'm sure there are some people who have been stopped. Or could have been stopped. It's the same as the rules about the allowable weight of carry-on bags, or customs regulations about bringing in food or a case of wine. Some people have gotten by with breaking or bending the rules, some definitely have not. It all depends on what chances you feel comfortable with and how you will feel if things don't go your way.
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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I just sent in my kids passports for renewal- non expidited. It took ten days total from the day I applied until they were delivered. And I renewed them at the Us Embassy in the UK.
Spend the money for an expidited passport.
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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&quot;Imhornet, you are misinformed, or your opinion is not based on experience. My husband was traveling to El Salvador on a mission trip and his passport would have expired a few weeks after he returned.&quot;

Let me get this straight. You are saying that I didn't travel on passport that expired within the proscribed limit. I'd love you how you know more about my travel experiences than I.

You can call all the consulates in the world and get all the rules in the wotld. The botom line is rules are one thing and reality is another.

Immigration laws are there for one purpose. The regulate people that they are afraid might stay. If you are a middle class American, they couldn't care less about you. That's reality.
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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OH MY GOSH. Yes, he is supposed to leave on November 18 and return November 24. Thanks so much for the info. I will read this thread fully and see what we can do. He is flying Brit Air so guess I better give them a call.
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Here's a link to the information on British Airways' web page. I could not get it to take you straight to Denmark, but follow the links.

http://www.britishairways.com/travel...?prim=plantrip

I will also copy and paste the text on that page:

Note: Denmark is a signatory to the 1995 Schengen Agreement. For further details about passport/visa regulations within the Schengen area, see the introductory section, How to Use this Guide.

PASSPORTS: Passport valid for three months after the last day of stay required by all except the following:
(a) 1. nationals of Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden in possession of identification papers (eg driver’s licence or identity card), provided travelling entirely within Scandinavia;
(b) 2. nationals of other EU countries holding a valid national ID card and holders of a Gibraltar Identity Card issued to British Citizens or British Dependent Citizens for tourist visits of up to three months.
Note: . For nationals of EU countries and the USA, passports need to be valid for duration of stay.

VISAS: Required by all except the following for stays of up to three months:
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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Hi Ronda,

If the passport office tells you that DH can't get his passport renewed before he has to leave
CALL YOUR MEMBER OF CONGRESS.

He/she will get it done.

Please be sure to return the favor next November.

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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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A friend of mine was flying to several countries in Europe (on BA). She was stopped at the gate in Newark &amp; was refused boarding, because of her passport expiration date. She somehow convinced them to let her on the plane, but they had already taken her luggage off. She had to spend 10 days without her luggae, until it finally caught up with her overseas. No apologies from BA, either. SO - DON'T TAKE A CHANCE!!!!!
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Old Nov 14th, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Brit Air said that in general your passport should be valid for 3 months after your return date. In a panic, I did call and make my husband an appointment in SF to renew but couldn't get in until the 18th (he leaves the 19th).

Called another number and actually got a person in SF passport office (1-877-487-2778). Was told the passport should be ok but to call the Danish Consulate in SF (415-391-0100).

Consulate said it should be ok but is going to call NY tomorrow and check further for me.
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If I am reading P_M's post correctly it doesn't seem like a problem:

&quot;Note: . For nationals of EU countries and the USA, passports need to be valid for duration of stay.&quot;
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Thanks, loveitaly &amp; ira, for the website; it was very helpful.
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How did this happen you ask? My husband is a very, very busy guy and didn't check his passport until he purchased the tickets. It is a business trip so I'm not too excited. What is the worst thing that could happen? He could be turned back at the airport and have to spend Thanksgiving week at home . Now if it was vacation...
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Old Nov 15th, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Danish Consulate in NY says his passport should not expire for 3 months from the return date. Guess he is going to SF on Friday. They also gave me the Danish Airport Police number to call in Denmark.

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Old Nov 15th, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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My post came from BA's web page, so I think you are wise to take the advice of the Danish Consulate over BA. As you mentioned in your OP, something could happen where he is stuck there beyond the expiration date. Much better safe than sorry.
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Old Nov 18th, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Just to let you know, DH did get his passport today in SF. He had a 10:30 a.m. appointment. Took his passport, new pictures, application DS11, credit card, and confirmation number. The application was the wrong one and he had to fill out another. He then had to wait around until 3:30 to pick up his new passport. Cost $120 + parking + lunch at Hunan Home + belt at Macy's.
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Old Nov 18th, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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And, oh yes, he took his plane ticket.
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Old Nov 18th, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Thank you so much for reporting back.

So few do...
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Old Nov 20th, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Thank you all for the information. I was so shocked when I returned to my computer after my original post to find so many responses. Had no idea there might be a problem and was prompted to take action.
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Old Nov 20th, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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Glad it worked out well, R.

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Old Nov 21st, 2005 | 03:16 AM
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&quot;+ lunch at Hunan Home + belt at Macy's&quot;

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