Paris to Barcelona - train or fly?
Jul 10th, 2013, 02:45 PM
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Paris to Barcelona - train or fly?
Going from Paris to Barcelona in October and trying to decide whether to take the 6+ hour train, or fly from Orly to Barcelona El Prat, which is a 1 1/2 hr flight. The flight appears to be cheaper but of course there are airport transfers. Maximizing time is the priority, not savings. Looking for advice - thanks!
Jul 10th, 2013, 03:51 PM
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Think about what time you would have to leave your hotel in Paris for the airport and what time you would arrive at your hotel in Barcelona. Then consider that the train takes you from one city center to another. That should help you to decide which will be faster.
Jul 10th, 2013, 04:15 PM
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then look at the Elipsos Hotel Trains that roll nightly between Paris Austerlitz and Barcelona - save daytime time and the cost of a night in a hotel and these are some of the very nicest night trains in Europe - a veritable hotel train.
For lots of great info on overnight trains and European trains in general I always spotlight these IMO superb sites - www.seat61.cxom (great info on getting deep discounts on trains like that); www.ricksteves.com and www.budgeteuropetravel.com.
then look at the Elipsos Hotel Trains that roll nightly between Paris Austerlitz and Barcelona - save daytime time and the cost of a night in a hotel and these are some of the very nicest night trains in Europe - a veritable hotel train.
For lots of great info on overnight trains and European trains in general I always spotlight these IMO superb sites - www.seat61.cxom (great info on getting deep discounts on trains like that); www.ricksteves.com and www.budgeteuropetravel.com.
Jul 10th, 2013, 05:13 PM
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We were going the other direction Barcelona to Paris and options were as above: day train, night train, plane. Easyjet was $127 for 2, one way for an hour flight. We also took into consideration travel time to airport, need to be there early, transport from airports to city centers and the bag restrictions on Easyjet.
Day train was going to take too long and was about $400 for w while the night train was going to be $800 for the two of us to share a cabin with no sink or toilet. So for us flying was a lot cheaper and quicker.
Day train was going to take too long and was about $400 for w while the night train was going to be $800 for the two of us to share a cabin with no sink or toilet. So for us flying was a lot cheaper and quicker.
Jul 11th, 2013, 01:54 AM
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I've recently used the Elipsos Trainhotel (June) and think if I were doing this journey again I'd go for the daytime option instead. It's hard to sleep on a train, and some of those overnighters currently in service are ancient and very worn. On the plus side there is some lovely scenery as you get down to the south west of France and into Spain and its very relaxing compared to flying - with a book, a coffee and the views on the last part of the journey it's positively civilised.
Regarding the day time journey, here's what you need to know. There was supposed to have been a high speed direct day time service launching this spring. There have been a lot of problems with this and I don't think it's currently running at all. What you can still get is the daytime service which terminates at Figueres, where you board another train to Barcelona - easy change straight across the platform. It's still in that 6-7hr time bracket you mention, so very doable.
One other point to note - overnight trains tend to come in Estacio de Franca, daytime services into Sants - but just double check this.
Regarding the day time journey, here's what you need to know. There was supposed to have been a high speed direct day time service launching this spring. There have been a lot of problems with this and I don't think it's currently running at all. What you can still get is the daytime service which terminates at Figueres, where you board another train to Barcelona - easy change straight across the platform. It's still in that 6-7hr time bracket you mention, so very doable.
One other point to note - overnight trains tend to come in Estacio de Franca, daytime services into Sants - but just double check this.
Jul 11th, 2013, 04:15 AM
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The flight will end up taking 4 or 5 hours in total, including taxis or grotty suburban trains to and from remote airports, lengthy security checks and so on.
The trains - whether high-speed daytime TGV or overnight Elipsos trainhotel - are centre to centre with no check-in to worry about. And in many ways both train options are an experience in themselves.
The Elipsos trainhotel is likely to be withdrawn from late October this year when direct high-speed trains finally start linking Paris and Barcelona in 6h30. So this is a last chance to experience something unique!
On the other hand, the TGV is a double-decker, book a top deck seat for views of the Rhone Valley with pretty villages and picturesque churches, the Med in places and all those flamingos on the étangs (lakes) in the south of France. Unlike the 4-5 hours of trains and flights and airports and taxis, this is 6-7 hours of USEFUL time, putting your weary sightseeing feet up for an afternoon, reading, watching the scenery go by with a glass or two of wine...
The trains - whether high-speed daytime TGV or overnight Elipsos trainhotel - are centre to centre with no check-in to worry about. And in many ways both train options are an experience in themselves.
The Elipsos trainhotel is likely to be withdrawn from late October this year when direct high-speed trains finally start linking Paris and Barcelona in 6h30. So this is a last chance to experience something unique!
On the other hand, the TGV is a double-decker, book a top deck seat for views of the Rhone Valley with pretty villages and picturesque churches, the Med in places and all those flamingos on the étangs (lakes) in the south of France. Unlike the 4-5 hours of trains and flights and airports and taxis, this is 6-7 hours of USEFUL time, putting your weary sightseeing feet up for an afternoon, reading, watching the scenery go by with a glass or two of wine...
Jul 11th, 2013, 09:48 AM
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+1 on everything Man_in_seat_61 said. We just did this trip in reverse in May. Whomever said $400 upthread must have waited until the last minute. We paid $115 each for 1st class seats (the singles facing each other), which were a tiny bit more than regular class seats, although I don't remember specifics right now.
It was SO relaxing. The seats were large and comfortable and we brought our lunch -Iberico ham and Spanish wine, of course. The scenery was lovely. My husband had to hold me down when we stopped in Nimes (I love Nimes) but other than that, it was a calm, quiet trip. No one-quart Ziplocs for us. I mean, how would we have fit our wine in there? ;-)
It was SO relaxing. The seats were large and comfortable and we brought our lunch -Iberico ham and Spanish wine, of course. The scenery was lovely. My husband had to hold me down when we stopped in Nimes (I love Nimes) but other than that, it was a calm, quiet trip. No one-quart Ziplocs for us. I mean, how would we have fit our wine in there? ;-)
Jul 11th, 2013, 01:36 PM
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The Elipsos trainhotel is likely to be withdrawn from late October this year when direct high-speed trains finally start linking Paris and Barcelona in 6h30. So this is a last chance to experience something unique!>
Perhaps there will be overnight TGV trains like on other routes with just regular seating?
Perhaps there will be overnight TGV trains like on other routes with just regular seating?
Jul 11th, 2013, 05:42 PM
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I'm going to highjack this thread a little as I am trying to check out the Elipsos overnight from Paris to Barcelona 3rd week of September, and the train is not listed at all (that I can find.) Is it just not available to book yet?
Day trains are there - but the night train says "not available."
Day trains are there - but the night train says "not available."
Jul 12th, 2013, 02:36 AM
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Rialtogrl - this happened to me when I booked for June - it took an age for the overnight service I wanted to appear, even though some later trains were already showing. Apparently the scheduling is quite complex and sometimes they are having to arrange them round engineering work, etc quite close to the departure date. My train did eventually show up and I booked about 2 months ahead of travel if I remember correctly.
You could consider use of the daytime service too though.
You could consider use of the daytime service too though.
Jul 12th, 2013, 05:38 AM
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Thanks... I will keep checking. 2 months ahead is next week!
I would consider the day train, but one leaves really early (like 7 AM) and the other would get us in too late. It would make more sense to fly in that case. I'll be with my mother and she's never done a night train, so I thought it would be neat to do it (I already told her she won't get any sleep!)
RM67 - did you have two people in a private compartment? How much did it cost?
I would consider the day train, but one leaves really early (like 7 AM) and the other would get us in too late. It would make more sense to fly in that case. I'll be with my mother and she's never done a night train, so I thought it would be neat to do it (I already told her she won't get any sleep!)
RM67 - did you have two people in a private compartment? How much did it cost?
Jul 12th, 2013, 06:31 AM
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Nope - it was just me in a reclining seat. (My travel companion flew in from further north). I think my fare was something like 200 euros and I booked the day the service was announced.
(Btw, I've done Paris-Verona on an overnight sleeper too - that was a 4 berth couchette if I remember correctly).
Tbh, I didn't get much sleep on either due to a) snorers in the reclining seat cabin and b) the couchette bunk being uncomfortable in that cabin.
It doesn't matter though - the scenery was lovely for much of the journey, specially the last bit, and I had tea, toast and marmalade at 6:00am as we went past the flamingo lakes.
(Btw, I've done Paris-Verona on an overnight sleeper too - that was a 4 berth couchette if I remember correctly).
Tbh, I didn't get much sleep on either due to a) snorers in the reclining seat cabin and b) the couchette bunk being uncomfortable in that cabin.
It doesn't matter though - the scenery was lovely for much of the journey, specially the last bit, and I had tea, toast and marmalade at 6:00am as we went past the flamingo lakes.
