PARIS - LOVE IT OR HATE IT?

Jan 31st, 2009, 04:19 PM
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I have just spent the most tiresome day looking at Paris apt's and reading posts on where to shop
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Jan 31st, 2009, 05:46 PM
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"they all look the same...

Huh? London looks like Paris? Berlin looks like Paris? Barcelona looks like Paris?"


not to mention : Rome, Vienna, Amsterdam, Stockholm , Venice, Dubrovnik, Istanbul......

the same? think not.
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Jan 31st, 2009, 06:26 PM
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I fell in love with Paris since I was a teenager and I always thought that after Rome, Paris was my favourite's place to live in all the world.

However Destiny sometimes is full of surprises because instead of living in my two favourites beautiful cities,I live at the other side of the word.

Now DH dont care about Paris at all.



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Jan 31st, 2009, 06:35 PM
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Writer(s): Cole Porter

I love Paris in the spring time
I love Paris in the fall
I love Paris in the summer when it sizzles
I love Paris in the winter when it drizzles
I love Paris every moment
Every moment of the year


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I love Paris, why oh why do I love Paris
Because my love is here

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Jan 31st, 2009, 07:17 PM
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I've got 105 trips to Paris under my belt and I hope to have another 100 before I die. No place on earth captures my spirit as much as that city. Every time I look out the plane window as we head into CDG my heart soars. I feel as if I'm coming "home." I can't even describe it.

I've loved lots of other places on earth that I've visited, but nothing, nothing, nothing can replace Paris. It has my heart and soul.
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Feb 1st, 2009, 02:49 AM
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I love Paris with a passion.

It's worth every second of the almost intolerable 24 plus hours of flying, all the way from Australia whilst squashing my 6 feet tall, long legged body into the economy class seats.

It's worth saving up every spare cent from my pension.

It's worth braving the most disgusting airport in Europe - C De G.

It's worth facing the steely glare of those French airport officials who come to work merely to socialise with their friends. It's worth ....well you get the picture.

And like StCirq it has my heart and soul, too. Exactly why is harder to explain.

For starters:

* the golden light
* the human scale of the city
*the invariably polite (and generally kind) French people - some a little stretched by the huge tourist numbers, but in all my trips never a rude one, ever!
*the immediacy of its history and the powerful feeling of "I'm walking where Napoleon, Descartes, Robespierre, etc, etc walked"
*the architecture and art
*the museums and galleries, small and large
*a sense of intellectual life that almost palpably vibrates everywhere
*the flowers spilling from balconies
*its cafes, food halls, markets and smaller shops
*the streetscapes

I couldn't give a toss for fashion shopping,loathe Parisian coffee- coffee here in Melbourne - a coffee mad city - is far superior. I think food in Paris is vastly overrated and that food in Australia is far fresher, lighter, and more often than not more beautifully prepared than in any European or American city I've ever visited. But...the food shops in Paris are poetry for the eyes, like all of that beautiful city.

Oh, I want to go back (can't afford to). I'm just dreaming now and sharing in the delights described by my own 20 something children who also LOVE Paris......
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Feb 1st, 2009, 03:07 AM
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I do like Paris, but only for a few days at a time. Each time I visit, when I arrive I wish I still lived there, but after a few days I'm always more than ready to leave.

I certainly prefer it as a tourist destination than a place to live and work (too crowded, stressful and not enough affordable accommodation).
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Feb 1st, 2009, 04:04 AM
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Love it. Our favorite city to visit even though we are not necessarily big city fans.

We find that Paris is the most walkable city with wide boulevards etc. In the three times we have visited we only encountered one rude waiter. As has been mentioned service is more formal and we expect that.

Haven't found another city yet that has the charm of Paris.
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Feb 1st, 2009, 04:21 AM
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I must thank you for a delightful post! It stirred up memories like you can not imagine! I went to Paris (part of a 5 country 2 week on a bus trip) with my Grandmother when I was 16. We had saved and saved, I baby sat to much that to this day I have no children of my own, though I have a 13 year old niece that I claim as my own. I hated Paris, we got there did the bus trip that was a pre-paid part of our trip. They let us off at the Louvre for a rapid trip past the Mona Lisa, Winged Triumph and Venus and then back on to visit Notre Dame where I was allowed enough freedom to purchase something from one of the souvinier shops that line the area. Mostly we spent time in the hotel. I did whine and complain enough that we wealked from our Sofitel in what I think is the 15th, to a local hole in the wall and had a less than mediorce meal. I thought very little of Paris, though I had enjoyed several great flirtations in France along the way. Or, so my 16 year old absorption with boys told me.
Then in the early nineties my best friend was living in Germany with her military spouse; she wanted to to to Paris. I gave her a laundrylist of why she would not like and she kept insisting that she reaaly wanted to to, so good friend that I am of offered to suffer on her behalf,we would go to Paris. But we would not have a good time. The rest is history! We had a fabulous time, in spite of the military tyring to put us in a rent-it-by-the -hour hotel. We had to find another place to place our weary heads, toute suite (sp?) I am planning my 10th ( Have a long way to go and some money to earn before I can compare with St. Cirq!) trip in ay, it is where I have chosen to spend my 50th BD celebration.
I have found myself on the plane, flying to other wonderful, beautiful cities and wishing I were going to Paris. I found myself considering how close I was and wondering if there was anyway I could get there......
I have encoungered rudeness, twice. Once in the Louvre (which I think, I sort of hold against the whole building to this day! LOL ) I had purchased a scarf, upon arrival left it in the sleeve of my coat and it must have fallen out because it was ot there when we retrieved our coats. The lady behind the counter absoloutely refused to understand my bad French or our English. I finally had to make a big stink ( which I have learned the French really do not like) by getting the manager. I did get that scarf back and still wear it with joy!
The other time was at Mont. St. Michele. In a resturant I had a questtion about how the lobster on the menu was cooked, by now my French was some better. The waiter grabbed the menu from my hands, stalked to the sideboard, and literally threw a menu at me, in English. I still had the same question, now just in English! LOL So I purchased the cheapest thing I could stand to eat and he got the least amount of service charge possible!
That said, I encounter more rudeness here in the states on most days than I have in France in all the times I have been there. I think we fail to consider that when we judge others. That looking in our own backyard first, thing!
I went with my friend again, with partners, alone, and last time we took my niece ( 13, 11 at the time) and my partners nephew ( 14, 12 at the time) , and the loved it. So much so, that they were told that for the trip coming up they had to have good grades, and save $200.00 each to contribute to the trip. This was our effort to help them understand a little fiscal responsibility. They have done it, so clearly they love Paris. I think it helps so much that we have started young with them. We really want them to get a feel for the world at large rather than just our own ego centric view of the world as Americans.
Thanks again for a very fun thread!
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Feb 1st, 2009, 04:44 AM
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Like blind men and an elephant, each travels to Paris observing different aspects of the city - each observation is accurate in its own way. Each visitor also carries expectations of an experience - some fulfilled while others not possible.

Through repeated experiences, one may learn the depth and the breath of what each city offers.

I have children in the similar age group as your nephew. Within their circle of friends we encounter in the U.S., most have only a narrow preference of what are desirable. Some broaden their horizon as they get older, while others continue to stay within their small comfort zone.

I have many acquaintances who see no merit in visiting or learning about cities outside the U.S. I do not argue with them on what other things Paris have to offer. They use their brief visit or what they heard about Paris as a synecdoche of the city.



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Feb 1st, 2009, 05:16 AM
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I've only been to Paris once and was nervous about how we might be treated. I came away very pleased with the folks we came across.

The only rudeness we witnessed was between a shop owner and a tourist. Tourist was middle aged+ and behaving badly. She was corrected by the lady who owned the shop and she stormed out of the shop with verbal anger.

I knew that lady would go home and tell the world how rude the shop keeper was but for myself I wanted to apologize for her behaviour. (I didn't, I don't hold myself responsible for others bad behaviour)

The shop owner treated us just fine...she rather ignored us and allowed us to browse but kept herself within our sight so we could ask for assistance. That's how I like to be treated.

We found hotel staff, bakery staff, waiters, metro staff were all willing to help us and we enjoyed our visit.
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Feb 1st, 2009, 05:51 AM
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Like blind men and an elephant, each travels to Paris observing different aspects of the city - each observation is accurate in its own way. Each visitor also carries expectations of an experience - some fulfilled while others not possible.

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So simple, yet pure genius.
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Feb 1st, 2009, 07:41 AM
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You know I think I had a room next to Greg's elephant on one of my trips.

There was one trip to Paris, where everyone was extremely rude. It was startling. I live in NYC and when someone with a French accent asked for directions, whether they be French or Quebecois, I would send them the wrong way.

After the Albertville Let's Be Human campaign, Parisians were in remission and so was I.
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Feb 1st, 2009, 10:49 AM
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"Oh, I want to go back (can't afford to)."

Libretto, that is exactly how I feel about Australia.
You are right about coffee in Sydney and Melbourne - the best!!

(also excellent in NZ)
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Feb 1st, 2009, 11:35 AM
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I think it much of it has to do with expectations. Some people expect Paris to so romantic or so historical or so literary or so subversive. Or whatever. Then they get here and are surprised that people actually live here, go about their lives, have the same mundane problems and petty grievances that exist elsewhere in the world.

Remember: Paris owes you nothing. It it not here for you. It has been here long before you arrived and will be here long after you are gone.
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Feb 2nd, 2009, 07:35 AM
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"Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale her infinite variety."

She reminds me to walk with my shoulders back, encourages me to slowly savor what's on my plate and brings tears to my eyes when I'm looking at all her treasures. Yes, I love Paris. She brings out the best in me and I try to bring that back to my life after every visit.
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Feb 3rd, 2009, 07:40 AM
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Auduchamp,

"There was one trip to Paris, where everyone was extremely rude. It was startling. I live in NYC and when someone with a French accent asked for directions, whether they be French or Quebecois, I would send them the wrong way."

Maybe you were joking, but I hope I don't bump into you in NYC needing to ask directions!

I've heard some foreigners asking locals for directions while visiting Paris and hell, they were so rude. I can understand why some of the locals are put off, but generally they are extremely accommodating.

I could find the entrance to Jardin du Plants once, got off the metro Jusseiu, completely turned-around.

A local helped and not only showed me the way, but WALKED ME THERE! Sweet older woman. She said in broken English, "better to take you there, then I know you got there OK." Really cool.
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