AND?? did they jump on the tables?

Oh, and I tried couscous at Hôtel les Degrés de Nôtre Dame. The owner of the hotel is Algerian so it's authentic. Cannot compare with other couscous as this is the only place I've tried it but it was wonderful. 10 rue des Grands Degrés, just down the street from Le Reminet.

http://lesdegreshotel.monsite.wanadoo.fr/

It sounded like a fun place but expensive. What did you friend say?

Well, I paraphrased but that's because she e-mailed me at work. I can quote here tomorrow from there. But she loved it! She, her husband, & 3 of her friends ate dinner there sometime around Christmas day.

Oh, and Les Degrés wasn't expensive at all. I recall couscous, a kir and a glass of wine at about 16€. And they're so nice there, too! Too bad the terrasse will be closed in February (I think) because it looks onto the lovely Square Restif de la Bretonne. I wrote about it on VT complete with photo:
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/tp/101582/

Here's the link to a travelogue which includes a few photos of the exterior from my 1st trip:
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/tt/60b0e/#TL

Oh, and I forgot but I put my veg resto list on VT:
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/tp/13280c/

Mimi, can't post the travelogues here because they are photos. The reason I posted the link is because there are clickable links on the tips on VT that will lead you to more info. It's too bad Fodor's cannot support that. It's one of the reasons I started posting on VT - that & putting up photos!


<b><u>Vegetarian/Vegan in Paris</u></b>

In Paris, it is rare to find a good vegetarian meal, much less a great one. Parisians are notorious omnivores &amp; generally cannot fathom vegetarianism. About 2 years ago, I created a list of restaurants for 2 friends of mine (one of whom is vegan, one just straight vegetarian) that are vegetarian/vegan friendly for some vegetarian friends of mine. Happily, one of these restaurants is a 3-star gastronomic temple (Arp&egrave;ge) but the list also includes some wonderful budget finds (L'As du Falafel). I share the list with you.

1e
<b>La Victoire Supr&ecirc;me du Cœur</b>
41 r des Bourdonnais
Vegetarian
Cadogan

<b>Entre Ciel et Terre</b>
5 r H&eacute;rold
vegetarian, 50% organic
Cadogan


4e
<b>Nectarine</b>
16 Place des Vosges
qu&icirc;ches, cr&ecirc;pes, salads
RS
(one of my faves)

<b>Aquarius</b>
54 r Ste-Croix-de-la-Bretonnerie
steamed veg plates &amp; veg tarts
Frommer’s

<b>L’As du Fallafel</b>
34 r des Rosiers
fallafels
RS

<b>Picolo Teatro</b>
6 r des Ecouffes
vegetarian
RS, Frommer’s, Cadogan

<b>L'Ebouillant&eacute;</b>
6 r des Barres
(0)1 42 71 09 69
www.understandfrance.org/Paris


5e
<b>Les Quatre et Une Saveurs</b>
72 r Cardinal Lemoine
www.understandfrance.org/Paris

<b>Gaudeamus</b>
47 r de la Montagne-Ste-Genevi&egrave;ve
vegetarian, gourmet teas &amp; coffees
RS, Cadogan

<b>Le Grenier de N&ocirc;tre-Dame</b>
18 r de la Bucherie
vegetarian &amp; macrobiotic
Cadogan

<b>Au Jardin des P&acirc;tes</b>
4 r Lac&eacute;p&egrave;de
for less strict vegetarians
RS, Cadogan

<b>La Petite L&eacute;gume</b>
36 r des Boulangers
vegetarian organic, produce for sale
Cadogan


7e
<b>L'Arp&egrave;ge</b>
84 rue Varenne
3-star veg resto, Chef Alain Passard
Frommer’s, Cadogan, FLGP, Fodor’s


8e
<b>La Maison Blanche</b>
15 av Montaigne
some veggie dishes &amp; fine dining on rooftops
Frommer’s


10e
<b>Da Mimmo</b>
39 bd Magenta
best pizza in Paris
Cadogan


11e
<b>Le Bar &agrave; Soupes</b>
33 r Charonne
small soup bar
Cadogan

<b>Ha&iuml;ku</b>
63 r Jean-Pierre Timbaud
vegetarian organic-fresh pasta
Cadogan

<b>Le Souk</b>
1 r Keller
Moroccan resto/salon de th&eacute;
Cadogan

<b>Tenshin</b>
8 r Rochebrune
Japanese organic vegetarian
Cadogan

<b>La Ville de Jagannath</b>
101 r St. Maur
Indian Vegetarian, Thai-style
Frommer’s


13e
<b>Tien Hiang</b>
20 r Nationale
pure vegetarian restaurant


14e
<b>Aquarius</b>
40 r de Gergovie
soybean quenelles, tarragon cannelloni
Frommer’s, Cadogan


16e
<b>Ghislaine Arabian</b>
16 av Bugeaud
some veggie dishes, famous female chef
Frommer’s


17e
<b>Il Baccello</b>
33 r Cardinet
Italian 1st-rate veggie dishes
Frommer’s, Fodor’s


18e
<b>L’Et&eacute; en Pente Douce</b>
23 r Muller
salads, veggie options, good wines
RS
(one of my faves)

<b>Au Grain de Folie</b>
24 r la Vieuville
salads, tarts, veg &amp; rice dishes
Frommer’s

Cadogan - Cadogan Guides – Paris 2002
FLGP – Patricia Wells' The Food Lover’s Guide to Paris, Fourth Edition
Fodor's - Fodor’s Gold Guide Paris
Frommer’s – Frommer’s Irreverent Guide to Paris, 4th Edition
RS – Rick Steves’ Paris

For the best of the best, I'd go with the 3-star Arp&egrave;ge to see what a great chef can do with vegetarian fare.

http://www.nwfolk.com/vegparis.html
here are more.
I didn't get permission to cut and paste.

Years ago I ate at the Algerian restaurant, Wally le Saharien, when it was on the Ile St. Louis. I Googled it and see that it still gets good reviews but is now in the 9th, at 36, rue Rodier.

Entre Ciel et Terre has closed a few years ago. Piccolo Teatro is pretty good. Punjab is delicious. Following St Cirq's recommendation, I tried it and enjoyed. They serve a vegetarian platter for lunch for about 10 Euros.
Le Sept/Quinze is not vegetarian, but when I dined there they had 2 vegetarian dishes as main courses. They're located at 29 ave Lowendal in the 15th, not too far from the Invalides. Also, there's a vegetarian place at 81 ave de Breteuil, also in the 15th, which has an English name, maybe Laura's cookies. But it's a restaurant, not just a bakery.

Thanks for the update, Keren!

This is what my friend had to say about 404 (no mention of jumping on tables but I'll ask her):

&quot;OK...here's the poop. It's small, dark and cozy, but with a really high ceiling. The service was really riendly, but we were a group of 6 with 2 native speakers, and of course we were very entertaining. (Friends she went with) who have the apt on Ile St. Louis go there every time they visit Paris. I haven't been to any other Morrocan places in Paris, so I don't know how it compares. We started with a bunch of appetizers and then got tagines with a side of couscous.

The only thing that I didn't like was their signature cocktail, which was sort of like a mint julep. I would have preferred a glass of champagne. For the appetizers, (friend) ordered this one dish with pigeon (much to our chagrin) but we loved it. It was layered with phyllo dough and baked and then sprinkled with powdered sugar. I know it sounds wretched, but it really was delicious.

404 was just written up in the NYTimes the weekend before we left so I'm sure it's going to be tough to get a rez...tell her to call soon.&quot;

le Restaurant 404 is featured in today's International Living's Postcards from Paris.

69, rue des Gravilliers 75003 Metro Rambuteau with a Saturday and Sunday brunch for &euro;21 served from 12-4.

We'll be there next Sunday for brunch!

ter, you don't want to go to the l'As du Fallafel. Tho the falafel gets rave reviews, it's more of a falafel stand, like the Nazi Kitchen on Seinfeld.

Mimi, my friend says SHE did not dance on the tables but another lady who was celebrating her 50th birthday DID!

This place sounds like fun!

I thanked you in reply to your email but it was returned.
I think she's quoting this article I originally posted when it came out.

http://travel2.nytimes.com/2005/12/1...aa&amp;ei=5070

<b>NYTimes article:</b> Dec 18th-<i>&quot;She is a young woman in black who is celebrating a birthday in official 404 fashion: by gyrating on top of the bar with her shirt halfway raised in an attempt at belly dancing...&quot;</i>
I read that at the time Mimi .. lol.

I think we have to be careful here.
Links are OK but Cutting and Pasting Lists of info from other sources is against the Fodors Rules.

Well, when I do, I have permission. Someone would always jab me for it, little did they know.
That someone never critisized anyone else for doing it so I guess she just didn't like me.

The list I cut &amp; pasted is my own info.

Mimi, you're saying my friend quoted the NY Times article? I read it &amp; I don't see the comparison.