Palenque's Scenic Swiss Trains

Old Mar 1st, 2015, 10:42 AM
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also check www.swisspasses.com - I think a Swiss Railways site - they are advertising some 2 for 1 passes in banner ads on Fodor's right now - look at top of screen there may be one there!
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Old Mar 1st, 2015, 01:13 PM
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You ask about your itinerary - good except that it is missing what I and many consider to be the very highlight of Switzerland the Jungfrau Region up in the hills south of Interlaken - I'd suggest taying here 3-4 days and scrubbing basing in Lucerne - can do a day trip from say Grindlewald to Bern rather quickly and Lucerne on the way back to Zurich.

then leisurely do the plethora of great days out in this area - the Reichenbach Falls included - no area of Switzerland IMO can match the varied and totally awesome vistas of the Jungfru Region - sheer cliffs rising thousands f\of feet topped by glcier-girdled high peaks, all lovigly brooding over lush cow-dotted medows:

https://www.google.com/search?q=jung...=1600&bih=1075

Mt Rigi and Pilatus are nice but in no way compare to the Jungfrau - Engelberg does in its way but is rather tiny compared to the vast Alpine wonderland around Interlaken.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2015, 07:08 AM
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I was already able to book the Paris-Zurich-Vienna route on the 5th of April. I still have to book the Vienna-Salzburg and Salzburg-Zurich tickets, but I wonder if I should go ahead and do that or get a Eurail or an Austrian Pass?>

Can't see how that would ever be cost effective, especially since you've booked Paris to Vienna already so would not be covered.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2015, 08:02 AM
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Thanks yet again, PalenQ, especially about the the Jungfrau. My aunt told me not to miss it, but I couldn't figure it into my itinerary. I only have 10 days, and the only place I can think of skipping is Montreux, as my hotel there is cancellable. Do you think I should exchange that for Jungfrau?

Again, here is my Swiss itinerary in brief:

Days 1-4 Montreux and environs
Days 5-6 Zermatt
Days 7-10 Lucerne (with side trip to Bern, Thun, Brienz in one day)
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Old Mar 2nd, 2015, 08:14 AM
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The images of Jungfrau are rather enticing! Where is a good base there? Do you suggest Grindelwald?
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Old Mar 2nd, 2015, 08:21 AM
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I love Grindelwald because of its excellent transportation links and what to me is a super superb view but others prefer more remote anc car-less Wengen but you can't go wrong and yes it is to many the absolute highlight of Switzerland that IME should not be missed and first-time trips to Switzerland should revolve around it.

Lucerne is neat for a day or so or to take boat trips on the lovely lake but Interlaken has two nice lakes to explore as well.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2015, 12:36 PM
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I may suggest thinking about subtituting the Jungfrau Region for Zermatt - would cut down on travel time and give the same awesome Alpine experience minus the Matterhorn but so so much more of a varied nature - like a boat trip on Lake Brienz including stopping off at those places you mention above.

And you could take one of those iconic scneic Swiss trains there from Montreux - the Golden Pass with panoramic glass-domed observation cars - free with a Swiss Pass - to Interlaken-Ost and jump on a train to the hills from there - all covered in full to Wengen, Grindelwald, Murren with a Swiss Pass.

Then after three days there head for a few in lovely Lucerne - all on the way to Zurich. Just a thought.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2015, 04:25 AM
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You've just convinced me, PalenQ! I will shorten my 4 nights in Montreux to 3 and spend another 3 nights in the Jungfrau region before heading off to Luzern Many many thanks for this wonderful advice!
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Old Mar 3rd, 2015, 09:11 AM
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Thank you! And I'm sure you will love it - report back on Fodor's and on this thread if possible!

and do take the Golden Pass between Montreux and Interlaken-Ost, where you change for trains to Grindelwald or Wengen or Lauterbrunnen.
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