Overnight train from Paris to Rome Please help!
Feb 9th, 2012, 06:38 AM
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On train stations: the Thello from Paris to Milan leaves from Gare Lyon. The old Artesia (now being replaced with the new line) left from Gare Bercy overnight to Rome.
You won't choose the station you leave from or the time. Both are set. I don't know if Trenitalia does general searches. Other websites, like the German railroad, does general searches so you can select the one within the timeframe you want. Once you have that info., then you can plug the info (location and time) in the Trenitalia info request -- if you can't figure out the website.
If the Paris-Rome train is not up and running, I would suggest you take the Thello overnight from Paris to Milan, then the high speed train (Eurostar Italia aka ES Italia) for the 3 1/2 hour trip from Milan to Rome (it's nice!). Check out Man in Seat 61's youtube on the Paris to Milan (or is it Milan to Paris, I forget!) overnight train to see what the new train looks like. The overnight from Paris to Milan leaves from Gare Lyon.
You won't choose the station you leave from or the time. Both are set. I don't know if Trenitalia does general searches. Other websites, like the German railroad, does general searches so you can select the one within the timeframe you want. Once you have that info., then you can plug the info (location and time) in the Trenitalia info request -- if you can't figure out the website.
If the Paris-Rome train is not up and running, I would suggest you take the Thello overnight from Paris to Milan, then the high speed train (Eurostar Italia aka ES Italia) for the 3 1/2 hour trip from Milan to Rome (it's nice!). Check out Man in Seat 61's youtube on the Paris to Milan (or is it Milan to Paris, I forget!) overnight train to see what the new train looks like. The overnight from Paris to Milan leaves from Gare Lyon.
Feb 9th, 2012, 06:41 AM
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Here's Man in Seat 61's link to his trip -- he took the Paris to Venice and got off in Brescia:
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...eper-train.cfm
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...eper-train.cfm
Feb 9th, 2012, 07:26 AM
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why would getting off in Brescia, if going to Rome, be any better than Milan - in fact it would seem to be worse - if going to Rome change in Milan Central to high-speed direct trains to Rome - Brescia is really a major detour it would seem if going to Rome from Paris.
Feb 9th, 2012, 07:52 AM
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The Paris-Venice Thello night train departs from Gare de Lyon. I assume that when it is up and running the Paris-Rome Thello night train will do the same.
Yes, there will be a set departure time. The site asks you to enter a departure time so it can show you all trains, if any, that depart around that time and forward a few hours.
Yes, there will be a set departure time. The site asks you to enter a departure time so it can show you all trains, if any, that depart around that time and forward a few hours.
Feb 9th, 2012, 07:52 AM
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<i>what would be the best Paris train station to depart from?</i>
You don't actually get a choice, despite what the web site looks like. Trains leave from specific stations depending on their destination. As several have mentioned, the train you want (in fact, all trains to Italy) will leave from Gare de Lyon. On Trenitalia's site I believe it's listed as "Paris Lyon."
<i>It is asking for times in 00:00 to 24:00. Does that mean I can choose which time we leave? I assumed times would be set...?</i>
For an overnight train, you won't have many options. Just pick a time (say 13:00) and it will show you the options you have for that day. The date is the more important thing.
If you're set on taking the train, Surfergirl's plan sounds good. If your option if the Paris-Rome overnight doesn't happen is a flight, just book an extra night at your hotel in either city, making sure you can cancel. You'll know about the train in plenty of time to do so.
You don't actually get a choice, despite what the web site looks like. Trains leave from specific stations depending on their destination. As several have mentioned, the train you want (in fact, all trains to Italy) will leave from Gare de Lyon. On Trenitalia's site I believe it's listed as "Paris Lyon."
<i>It is asking for times in 00:00 to 24:00. Does that mean I can choose which time we leave? I assumed times would be set...?</i>
For an overnight train, you won't have many options. Just pick a time (say 13:00) and it will show you the options you have for that day. The date is the more important thing.
If you're set on taking the train, Surfergirl's plan sounds good. If your option if the Paris-Rome overnight doesn't happen is a flight, just book an extra night at your hotel in either city, making sure you can cancel. You'll know about the train in plenty of time to do so.
Feb 9th, 2012, 03:04 PM
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@PalenQ -- I <b>didn't say</b> getting off in Brescia would be better than getting off in Milan. I said "Man in Seat 61's link to his trip -- <b>he took the Paris to Venice and got off in Brescia</b>".
The purpose of the link and the comment was to give the OP a look at the new train!
The purpose of the link and the comment was to give the OP a look at the new train!
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:26 AM
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Yes but OP wants to go to Rome and getting off at Brescia would make no sense to OP - fine what Man in Seat 61 says but totally irrelevant to OP. and I read the link and can find no mention of getting off in Brescia? ???? please clarify for me.
Feb 16th, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Paragraph 4 of Man in Seat 61's blog, which reads as follows:
"The sleeper train was platformed in good time, it left promptly and <b>arrived at Brescia (where we left the train)</b> spot on time. Staff were all new, and were friendly and helpful in both the sleepers and restaurant car." [Emphasis added.]
"The sleeper train was platformed in good time, it left promptly and <b>arrived at Brescia (where we left the train)</b> spot on time. Staff were all new, and were friendly and helpful in both the sleepers and restaurant car." [Emphasis added.]
Feb 16th, 2012, 01:04 PM
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Whichever way you go, plane or train, travel light.
Travel light.
Travel light.
There is really no need to carry the kitchen sink with you for a two week trip.
Travelling light allows you more flexibility in changing your plans at the last moment if necessary.
to get from CDG to Gare de Lyon, you take the RER B into Paris, get off at the Gare du Nord, change over to the D line for the Gare de Lyon.
Here's a color-coded map. It's pretty easy:
http://parisbytrain.com/files/2008/05/rer.pdf
Use the parisbytrain website to get information and to plot your way through the maze of Paris trains, local trains and even the metro systems. It's an invaluable website:
http://parisbytrain.com/charles-de-g...aris-by-train/
Travel light.
Travel light.
There is really no need to carry the kitchen sink with you for a two week trip.
Travelling light allows you more flexibility in changing your plans at the last moment if necessary.
to get from CDG to Gare de Lyon, you take the RER B into Paris, get off at the Gare du Nord, change over to the D line for the Gare de Lyon.
Here's a color-coded map. It's pretty easy:
http://parisbytrain.com/files/2008/05/rer.pdf
Use the parisbytrain website to get information and to plot your way through the maze of Paris trains, local trains and even the metro systems. It's an invaluable website:
http://parisbytrain.com/charles-de-g...aris-by-train/
Feb 17th, 2012, 08:28 AM
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Surfgirl - sorry but I still fail to see the point in getting off a Brescia? And do what? Why? I have been to Brescia and though a fairly nice old town I would never recommend it over a zillion other Italian towns for the novice Italian traveler.
Feb 17th, 2012, 08:37 AM
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>>>PalenQ on Feb 17, 12 at 12:28pm
Surfgirl - sorry but I still fail to see the point in getting off a Brescia?<<<
Yes, you are failing to see the point. Surfgirl was only informing the OP about Man in Seat 61's trip report from Paris to Brescia so the OP could read about the train ride, not telling her to get off any particular stop.
Surfgirl - sorry but I still fail to see the point in getting off a Brescia?<<<
Yes, you are failing to see the point. Surfgirl was only informing the OP about Man in Seat 61's trip report from Paris to Brescia so the OP could read about the train ride, not telling her to get off any particular stop.
Feb 17th, 2012, 08:38 AM
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Surfergirl is not telling the OP or anyone else to get off at Brescia. All she was saying was that the Man in Seat 61 took the Paris-Venice overnight train and posted a video about it (side note: he got off at Brescia rather than going all the way to Venice).
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:55 PM
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Here's Man in Seat 61's link to his trip -- he took the Paris to Venice and got off in Brescia
OK I finally get it - that was a title and not a recommendation - and yes great minds do not get off at Brescia, I agree! I am a little slow on the upstake but it was rather poorly stated and seemed to suggest getting off at Brescia to go to Rome.
OK I finally get it - that was a title and not a recommendation - and yes great minds do not get off at Brescia, I agree! I am a little slow on the upstake but it was rather poorly stated and seemed to suggest getting off at Brescia to go to Rome.
