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Old Apr 12th, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Normandy and paris questions

Hello and I must say after many years of reading this board, it is great and I decided to join just today The advice is solid and creative. My father 63, not well and I, are going to France in three weeks. Need guidance on Caen, eating and must sees near center city, that I could do after I have had enough of War museo.
Malesherbes, near Fontainblue, cannot find a thing on it, but we are staying there. Also the drive to all these places, is there anything I must see in between worth a detour? The joy of a car will be the "detour" option. Cities we pass are Honfleur and I plan lunch there... Lemans, Mt. Saint Michel, Chartres etc., My father cannot walk alot, but I sure can We love food, wine and scenic places.
Also, gift items one must take home, small, any suggestions. Thank you all for any input.


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Old Apr 12th, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Hi,

You don't need to start another thread if no one has responded to your first one. You can bring it to the top by responding to your own post and put something like "topping" in the text box.

Can't help with Caen since I spent only a brief time there. Mt St Michel is quite an up hill hike, including stairs, for someone who can't walk very well and the abbey is at the top so you might want to skip this. It's also not on the way from Caen to Paris.

I can recommend the Chartres cathedral, Rouen, the D Day beaches, and Bayeux for the tapestry. You might also want to consider stopping in Giverny for Monet's gardens.

This response will bring the post to the top and hopefully others will respond.

Enjoy your trip!
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Old Apr 12th, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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In Caen, of course the WWII museum, where my fiance spent hours. We drove to the WWII beaches and stopped to see the WWII cemetery. There are a few towns along the different beaches. I didn't make it to Mt St Michel and I hope to go one day. It seemed like a long drive from Caen (about one hr) until we arrived at Omaha Beach. One of the best meals we had was at the restaurant in the Best Western Hotel in Caen. I was there several years ago. My friend went this past year and said the food was outstanding. It is in the main town but across from the Castle. (We had a little trouble finding it at first because of the turns. Also went to the Chartres Cathedral. A very memorable trip! Enjoy . Johanna
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Old Apr 12th, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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In Chartres, right in front of the Cathedral, they have a tourist train. I heartily recommend it for anyone, like your father, who doesn't perhaps have the stamina to do a lot of walking. It goes all over the important sites in the city and is well worth the nominal cost.

I also suggest you stop at a "hypermarché" first time you pass one (Centre Le Clerc comes to mind, Aachen, Casino-to name a few) for a case of individual bottled water and snacks like nuts, cookies, fruit etc. Not only is it cheaper to help the budget but it will help maintain energy while on the go. Hydration is very important for older/ill people--wine doesn't count here-ha-ha-ha.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 03:38 AM
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Thank you all. Sorry about the format, ie, moving the post. It is my first try. Near the Caen Memorial, are there other sites of interest or shops...ANYTHING as I may want a change from war. I am very interested but it makes me sad after awhile. BIG question: GPS or not? I can bring my printed maps or pay 80.00 for france and take the TomTom GPS system. We will not be in the car every day so hubby says, "don't waste my money" but I think it would be nice, also it has walking directions but I am unsure how long it holds a charge out of the car.
In Paris, does anyone have experience with the Car Rouge?
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 03:59 AM
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You can just use the Michelin map of Normandy and get by nicely. But DO get that map, as well as the Michelin Green Guide to Normandy. It will answer many of your questions about what there is to do. I assume you may be going on to other sites along the Normandy coast. You don't say how long you are touring Normandy but you may find that Mont St. Michel is a bit of way out there, and if your father isn't physically fit, it may not be for you to do.
Is the Car Rouge the hop on hop off bus? it is fine for an overview of Paris, as is its counterpart whose name I can't call at the moment.
Gift items just depends on what you like. France has wonderful paper products like note pads, post it notes (with lovely art). Look in museum shops for ideas. Food things--mustards, chocolate. Look in the supermarche for these at great prices.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 04:14 AM
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Thank you so much,well my actual plan is as follows: Fly into CDG and get car, stop in Honfluer for lunch en route to Caen, (we arrive at 7:30 a.m.) in Paris, then spend two nights in Caen. Then three at a B&B in Bayeaux, where we will do "Overlord" one day tour of the beaches, but in route to Bayeux we will go to the Sword, Gold Beach sites. After Bayeux, two nights in Dinan france thus we pass right by Mt. St. Michel, then after Dinan, a four hour drive at least to Malesherbes France in the Loire valley about 20 mins from Fontainbleu for two nights. We will tour Fontainbleu one day. The other go to a small village near known for its market and many herbs grown. Then on to Orly drop off car and take a cap into Paris. Staying in the 1st. Arr. for three nights. I am thinking to do a Paris walks tour to include Sacre Coure or do it by myself. Then that night the boat Vendette, Pont Nuef with my discout ticktes where we can take food, wine etc., and eat and look Saturday, likely the hop on hop off... 25.00 euros per person...yikes, but I am thinking dad could not handle the walking needed in Paris. Sunday a.m. I go to Bike about tours for a three hour tour alone, dad sleeps late and I need to be up!
The gifts, I needed ideas to take the kind families I have gotten to know via email as I am staying in their homes. I will get some of the suggestions to bring home for sure, thank you.
Does anyone know of MALESHERBES france?
Also, Fontainblue, is it fabulous or is there another site in the Loire I must see?

Thanks again!
Jeannie
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 04:50 AM
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The Caen Memorial is on the northern outskirts of the city, so there is nothing of interest in its immediate vicinity. However, while you are at the Memorial, make sure you go outside and visit the various gardens (US, Canadian and British) which while commemorating the battle do provide a contrast to the sombre exhibits inside.

Much of Caen was destroyed by the allied bombing in July 1944, so the centre of town has been largely rebuilt. However, the romanesque Abbaye aux Hommes and its Church of St. Etienne, founded by William the Conquerer in 1066, did survive and are worth a visit. Your best bet for places to eat in Caen would be rue St.Pierre in the centre of town.

You mention that you will be visiting Gold and Sword beaches on the way to Bayeux from Caen. I would give Sword beach a pass, unless you have a particular reason for visiting it, and visit Juno Beach instead. The Juno Beach Centre at Courseulles-sur-Mer is right on the beach and is an excellent interpretive centre. Beyond Juno at Gold Beach you should not miss the Musee du Debarquement at Arromanches .

As to whether you should use GPS or maps, it all depends on you or your husband's navigation skills. Driving in rural France can be challenging, so if your husband thinks that $80 is a waste of money, I would give him the job of navigating while you drive. This is the arrangement that my wife and I have arrived at after many times driving in Europe and it works!

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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 04:59 AM
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Malesherbes has a nice chateau (but certainly not comparable to Fontainebleau).

http://www.all-free-photos.com/show/...31&lang=fr

http://www.ville-malesherbes.fr
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 05:02 AM
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BTW, Fontainebleau is a gorgeous castle, but has nothing to do with the Loire. The Loire is far away.

Another splendid chateau in the area is Château de Vaux-le-Vicomte.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 05:10 AM
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I have done both Les Cars Rouges and L'Open Tour. They are great for first timers as they allow you to get the lay of the land. After seeing where the major sites are, you can plan your days better. Web sites for both are:

http://pariscityrama.com/en/paris_open_tour
http://www.carsrouges.com/uk/index.html
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 05:22 AM
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Thank you all, well, DHubby will not be with me as this is for my father, the trip as it is a dream of his to see the beaches. GPS will go Also, the Loire Valley, I thought that Malesherbes was in it, but it seems a little closer to the northern approaches/outskirts of paris. Thank you also for telling me about the gardens at Caen Memorial. When I map our hotel, it appears we are about 1.5 miles walking from the memorial, yet we are staying in Center Hotel, which says it is in the heart of Caen... hmmm lol

I am going to download france to my tomtom today I am curious how long she will last without juice, ie., for walking. I will investigate.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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miacaraitlaia: The Hotel Centre in Caen is quite close to the centre of town. However, the Mémorial is not. As I mentioned in my previous post, it is on the northern outskirts, so you would be best advised to drive there. There's lots of parking available.

Good decision on the GPS!
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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Just be aware that when you come to a roundabout in France, the direction is given to the NEXT TOWN, not the route number. The GPS will probably give the direction of turn. I have no idea, but I guess this will be in English? That is certainly a nice trip.
You are looking for gifts for French folks?
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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GPS is my new best friend and what is 80.00 considering the cost of the trip Yes, french folks, looking for small gifts as we are in alot of B&Bs. I realize that hotels, are business, but the B&B is a little different. So far I have a cookbook from Ga, Stone Mtn with the history and so forth, Vidalia onion relish, BBQ sauce (all europeans love ours, at least that is my impression) oreos, nutterbutters (small packs) and poke mon cards for the 11 year old boy...
any other ideas? I stay with several families and I think such really is nice.

Also, unfortunately, I do not eat organ meat..lol seafood or fish...nor many eggs, so a restaurant in Paris...recommendations? I did well in Italy as they eat like me...but France, very carnivor so far...from what I read. I adore ethnic foods, just not the previous items. My dad is a country man, so any comfy place would be nice, just affordable and good.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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P.S. Lavendrye,
The hotel central, Caen, Is it nice? I got a great deal, my dad on the bottom floor, me walking five flights of stairs, to save a few euro ..lol The family that runs it seemed very nice. Breakfast is extra so we will dine nearby at cafes and so forth. Are you familiar with Caen? I am thinking it will be nice, I realize it was bombed to death, but sometimes the places people skip thru are the best for dining and just being there.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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The Caen bombing did not, thankfully, damage the Abbeye des Hommes and the Abbaye des Femmes. Be sure to visit those; there's easy parking near each site.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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We really enjoyed our meal at Le Petit Bistro in Bayeux. I hope you have a wonderful trip.
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Old Apr 13th, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Thanks so much for the suggestions. I have reservations for the petit bistro! Sounds great!
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Old Apr 14th, 2008 | 04:17 AM
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you will not have a problem eating in France. They do seafood very well.
Le Petit Bistro was the best meal we had on our entire trip that year. I think it is fine to bring a gift for a B&B but I personally would not think of doing it. It's a business and they are charging you, I believe.
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