Nike tennis shoes and leggings

Old Apr 17th, 2015, 02:14 PM
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Pepper_von_snot,

I think you might have some issues.

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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 03:26 AM
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 05:00 AM
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I'm a west-coast American living in Florence (Fienze) and have taken recent trips to Rome and Paris. I have noticed that clothes are much more casual than in the past.
Currently, boots of all styles seem to be the popular choice with the locals. Lots of dark clothing with great colored purses and scarves.
I've seen tourists dressed in everything and they all seem to be having a good time. Enjoy your trip and don't worry about your wardrobe.
You can always buy something in Paris if you feel you didn't pack correctly.
I think it's important to have the right jacket for those rainy/windy moments in Paris. It is miserable when you're cold and wet...even in Paris.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 05:31 AM
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Oops. Forgot my best piece of advice, it isn't fashion related. I know this is basic and I don't mean to offend. Always, always, always say bon jour when you walk into a store, bistro, ticket booth, etc. Try to say it first, believe me it makes a difference in how you will be treated.
In Italy, buongiorno or after 1pm, buonasera. A thank you and goodbye in the local language when you leave is also appropriate... even if they did nothing for you!
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 05:51 AM
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after 1pm, buonasera

This is true in Tuscany but is not necessarily the case in the rest of Italy
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 06:49 AM
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>I think you have some issues <

The staff at Betty Ford would wholeheartedly agree with you!

Actually, sweetie darling, my postings were all a joke.

Just as your OP was a joke.

Because no grown woman would seriously turn to a group of anonymous posters on the Internet to ask for fashion advice.

A grown woman should know how to conduct herself in public.


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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 09:54 AM
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Today's update is that while walking through the part of my town that has all the upscale boutique fashion shops, I noticed one of the women who owns one of the boutiques was standing in the shop doorway, chatting with a couple of other Italian women. She was weearing dark leggings plus white high-top sneakers. She had on a fitted collarless black leather jacket (short) and a print top underneath, rather like this

http://cdnb.lystit.com/photos/984a-2...arge_flex.jpeg

This woman is in her 40s.

I am not going to do updates every day, but once again want to emphasize that middle aged Itaian women who are very focused on fashion wear leggings and consider the very presentable.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 10:29 AM
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Sandralist, you are chipping away at the certainties of some of our fashion "experts" here.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 12:18 PM
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The original question posed was only about whether or not she would be snubbed. Not if it was fashionable or appropriate. Very few of the responses have actually addressed that question. In addition the OP only asked about wearing these items during the day. This has gotten so far off course.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 01:30 PM
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kerouac,

I hope so! Although I fear myths die hard. (I've given up hoping travel 'experts' will drop the nonsense that Tuscany is ugly and brown in winter, and that it takes half a day to check out of a hotel.)

I want to add that the only reason there are any boutiques in my small town is that the town is very popular as a second home and holiday destination for people from Milan and Torino. The shops are for them, and the woman running that store sells high-priced items, including cocktail dresses and bags I cannot afford, and she would not dress for work in a way that was off-putting to the most fashion-minded Italians (a description that surely fits many Milanesi and Torinesi).
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 01:47 PM
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Leggings and how one wears them can run a lengthy fashion gamut. The photo marked Balmain above is not in the same category as Lululemon athletic wear. I do not think the yoga style leggings are what you see in the 'fashionable' boutiques in the small Italian towns. Again, the OP is free to wear her yoga clothes, and she will probably only get a very few sideways glances. Since her original question was about being snubbed in her Lulus, and since it is possible she might be, notice the word might, she will have to decide if this will bother her. I also think when you ask this kind of question, you probably already know the answer.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 02:01 PM
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Oh for heaven's sake!!!! Will some people never give up????

I just found this thread from another travel message board asking if Lululemons are okay in Europe and it is FIVE YEARS OLD!!!! As noted there and here, the only "sideways glances" anybody gets wearing yoga pants are from idiot tourists who really, really, really will not admit they are just plain wrong and living in a fantasy world about "my trips to Europe where I get to pretend and swan around like I'm sophisticated and dressl like a 'European'". At least one poster in this Rick Steves thread admitted her trips were a fantasy in that regard:

https://community.ricksteves.com/tra...ble-for-europe

A huge number of Italian women have adopted a look in Italy that is called "sporty chic" (in Italian it is called sporty chic) and the love Converse high tops, yoga pants, leggings etc. They ar not subjected to sarcastic snark like 'If you ask a question about, you know the answer, nah, nah, nah".

The peope who are making public fools of themselves are these people snorting and pinching up their faces like Lily Tomlin's Ernestine, about what is actually a fashion trend in Europe.

Girls, you are simply out of it.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 02:14 PM
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More fotos, folks, of European women in "sporty chic". Try to invent reasons why you can't believe your own eyes if that makes you feel better about how you pack. (Remember, it is all-important to have opinions about how other people pack. How else would you get any self-esteem?)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6da06e1f65.jpg

http://chilishake.it/wp-content/uplo...3/DSCF2400.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-c1slkxD4_Z...porty-chic.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...06825ccc87.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/-pqEPo1FAJbc/UG...jpg?imgmax=800

http://thevogueword.com/wp-content/u...dsc_0073-3.jpg
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 02:18 PM
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In Paris as well, Converse hi-tops are considered to be a great fashion statement. Of course, in a year or two it won't be the case anymore, but since fashion articles are delayed for such incredibly long periods, they will probably be saying to wear them when it isn't done anymore.

People should realize that whatever they have read about fashion anywhere is already two years out of date by the time it makes it to print. So if fashion is really their principal concern, they should arrive in France or Italy wearing something as neutral as possible and then run instantly to the fashion district of the local city to buy a completely new wardrobe.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 02:43 PM
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Apparently, and once again, the purpose of a thread gets twisted so that someone can win the 'I am always right' contest. And once again, to no surprise, it is not the OP. Such manipulated drama.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 02:48 PM
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The thread was not twisted. Advice was given immediately. All the rest is gravy.
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Old Apr 18th, 2015, 07:18 PM
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socaltraveler: this is ONLY for you. We have met the enemy and she is indefatigable. Thanks for the support.
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Old Apr 19th, 2015, 06:12 AM
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The desperation in this thread is truly off-putting. And I'm not just talking about sandy's desperation to be right.

The next thing you know, someone will try to convince us that all Italian women aspire to look like Donatella Versace. After all, Donatella isn't just a shopkeeper in a small Italian town selling Italian fashion. IMO, Donatella Versace is living proof that not all Italian design is great (another myth), and not all Italian women make great, or chic, choices.

People use the word "chic" these days to justify any fashion purchase. It's about as overused as the word "like." Without a precise visual, the word is meaningless.

Also, without a visual, we have no idea how the OP will look in her 2015 re-do of the 1983 "Flashdance" look. Maybe the OP is tall and has a hot body. Maybe she has a fabulous haircut and carries herself like a runway pro. Maybe, in the name of Ft. Lauderdale comfort, her tight, clingy leggings will make French and Italian men drop to their knees in submission and all women green with envy. I kind of doubt it, though, since flat tennies do nothing to create a sexy leg, and it's near impossible to find a great haircutter and colorist in Florida.

Will she get snubbed in France and Italy while wearing her gym-goes-chic Ft. Lauderdale stretchies? Who can say, without seeing a photo of her in the outfit she's describing? Who can say, without knowing her travel behavior?

The OP's question reminds of the terrible piece ABC News did: "What a Faux Pas! Rude Americans Arrive in France"
http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/story?id=6556024 If I remember correctly, the husband is wearing Crocs. The video is painful to watch, but the camera certainly catches not-so-discreet reaction from the French. Italians are far more tolerant, fun-loving, and hospitable.

I once worked on a television production where real, everyday women were hired instead of professional models to sell a product. One woman reacted quite strongly to being dressed by a professional stylist, and she approached me to share some private thoughts. Her mother had died at an early age, and she went through childhood with no female exposure to clothing advice. By the time she reached her adult years, she developed a dread for clothing shopping. Completely impressed and overwhelmed by her transformation for the cameras, she asked me if it was too late to learn how to dress her body. I gave her a name and number.

In an ideal world, Thin would be right with "no grown woman would seriously turn to a group of anonymous posters on the Internet to ask for fashion advice." But the truth is, many grown women don't know how to dress their body in the most flattering way, they don't know a thing about developing personal style, they don't know how to define the word "chic," and they certainly don't know where to begin with the luggage restrictions for travel dressing. It's too bad there isn't an easier way to post photos here.

I was lucky. I had an elegant mother who had strong opinions on the definition of chic, and she taught me where and where not to wear any version of gym clothing and/or underwear. It's probably a good thing my mother is gone. I can only imagine her horror, seeing what I see on the streets of NYC every day. Too many people just don't have a clue, and all of them insist they are right.
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Old Apr 19th, 2015, 09:51 AM
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This should cure anybody who thinks they need to dress up in Paris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmMRWrHZ6As
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Old Apr 19th, 2015, 10:43 AM
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kerouac, I love it.
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