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Nice, Avignon, Lyon, Chamonix, Paris, feasible without car?

Nice, Avignon, Lyon, Chamonix, Paris, feasible without car?

Old Apr 1st, 2019, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by neckervd View Post
Annecy is NOT in the Alps, but it's a nice small city.
I would have written that "Annecy is not IN the Alps."
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Old Apr 2nd, 2019, 03:56 PM
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Yeah, I'd cut a few and go to Chamonix - a primo Alpine resort with thrilling able car rides and mountain trains and hiking for all types.
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Old Apr 2nd, 2019, 06:41 PM
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I’d cut Chamonix. IMO not worth the effort to get there via public transportation and views of Mt. Blanc will be iffy. Yes to a couple of days in Annecy
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First, none of your places listed are anywhere near my very extensive list of places that I'd return to in France. I went back to Nice because my wife wanted to go there and it was directly on our way from point A to point B, but it's still a really big city.

Second, none of these places conform to your list of interests. They are all pretty large places that are time-consuming to use as a base. I would look for smaller spots that still could be used as an easy base or places close to each other than can be visited by train or bus without a lot of long trips on public transportation taking up your time.

As an example, Sarlat is a great town and you can find transport plus the local tourism office has an extensive list of excursions. I would focus more on places like that.

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Old Apr 4th, 2019, 06:32 AM
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<<We are interested in nature / scenery, wildlife, culture, small towns.>>

None of which you are targeting.
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Old Apr 4th, 2019, 02:21 PM
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All very walkable cities. I live in Paris and do not have a car. A car in Paris is a negative.Transportation in Paris is the best in the world with 16 metro (subway) lines, 5 regional rail lines crisscrossing the city and way out to the suburbs, a tram system that circles the city perimeter, a fenicular to takes you from Pigalle area to Montmartre and hundreds of bus lines. Nice has a nice tram system and bus system and you can buy a 7 day pass for 15 euros. Avignon is easy to get around and Lyon has a good tram system. Chamonix is a small town and you can walk everywhere in no time.

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Old Apr 7th, 2019, 12:44 AM
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Thanks, all. Good to know that all the places that we intend to cover are walkable cities, although there are mixed comments on whether these places are good bases.

On our interests, I would've thought that Annecy and Chamonix would cover nature/scenery (with lakes and mountains), and there's also a wildlife park (Parc de Merlet) at Chamonix. Nice (and other seaside towns) would cover culture / coastal scenery / history. Avignon would cover culture / history, and the lavender day trip would cover small towns (Gordes, Roussillon / Sault). Lyon would also cover culture / history (distinct murals / traboules) (and also food). And lastly Paris would be culture / museums.

Also picked these places after reading up for a wide variety of experience and taking into account feasibility of transport, since it is our first time in France, but understand that it may be a little over ambitious. Also hear that the common consensus is to drop Lyon, and perhaps Chamonix.

Will work towards fine-tuning the itinerary, and again, all comments above are appreciated.
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Old Apr 7th, 2019, 06:12 AM
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Why drop Lyon? It's a really interesting city (much more than Nice or Annecy) and you will have to travel through Lyon anyway.
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